Ranger Archive
Thread: I need your help and opinions
NerfBurger
Fri Apr 01, 2005 5:10 pm
#14
In regards tothe CU and the information that has come out(or lack thereof),will you be dropping ranger?
No, even though I am unhappy with what has been shown in the CU so far, I am proud of being a Master Ranger and have been one for over 16 months. I'll leave the game before I drop Master! Unfortunately this is looking more and more likely unless things change.
Why are/arn'tyou dropping it?
I chose to be a Master Ranger on Day 1, thats June 26th, 2003! So why should I drop a profession that I play for and pay for. Once again the question is not "Will you drop Ranger?" it is, "Will you quit SWG?"
If I am forced to drop Ranger to be a competitive combatant I will leave this game with a broken heart. I love this game and hope over the next two months the CU will shape up to make this game great but if it gimps Rangers in the proccess I will seriously consider giving up on this game.
Is it only temporary until the revamp?
It all depends on the communication given to us by the devs. If Rangeris gimped by the CU and the devs do not acknowledge it and just tell us to keep waiting for a revamp soon(tm) I think I would lose it.
On the other side of the coin if A revamp was promised within a resonable timeframe and our concerns were addressed, yes I could hold out with a gimped toon for a short while. How long that "short while" is has yet TBD...
Message Edited by NerfBurger on 04-01-2005 04:12 PM
frightwig
Fri Apr 01, 2005 5:36 pm
#15
In regards to the CU and the information that has come out (or lack thereof), will you be dropping ranger?
Still undecided.. Will have to see how viable master ranger/rifleman is when the frogs are activated.
Why are/arn't you dropping it?
If I drop, it will mainly be because of the HAM issue and the fact that traps, and scout/ranger was ignored in the CU.
I'm leaning towards Master Rifles, Master Carbineer, scout 4040 and any medic with leftover SP. May just drop scout entirely and go for rifles, combat medic or doc.
Is it only temporary until the revamp?
Depends on what the revamp has in store..
Message Edited by frightwig on 04-01-2005 08:49 PM
Aerec_Krouse
Fri Apr 01, 2005 5:47 pm
#16
In regards to the CU and the information that has come out (or lack thereof), will you be dropping ranger?
Maybe, It is the most fun I've had in any game-full stop (well, ok, Lords of Midnight is still awesome but...). HOWEVER, if after the CU testing is done I find it un-fun then I will be forced to change. I do feel from the notes that have been presented for us so far that Ranger has been exceptionally short-changed and overlooked.
Is it only temporary until the revamp Dunno, ask a smuggler how long their revamp took, then come back to me. Whatever I choose to do, no faceless dev can take away the fact that I am, and will always be a Ranger (whether I wear the tag or not), and will always consider Rangers to be on an equal footing with my guildmates. Outside of my guild, on my server I have had the most fun with three other Rangers, I think they know who they are. I only hope that after we get shafted by the CU that they stick around a while.
I'd liketo point out that I think the CU is a good thing (tm)overall, however I fear it will cause more Rangers to quit the game than any other profession
Maybe, It is the most fun I've had in any game-full stop (well, ok, Lords of Midnight is still awesome but...). HOWEVER, if after the CU testing is done I find it un-fun then I will be forced to change. I do feel from the notes that have been presented for us so far that Ranger has been exceptionally short-changed and overlooked.
Is it only temporary until the revamp Dunno, ask a smuggler how long their revamp took, then come back to me. Whatever I choose to do, no faceless dev can take away the fact that I am, and will always be a Ranger (whether I wear the tag or not), and will always consider Rangers to be on an equal footing with my guildmates. Outside of my guild, on my server I have had the most fun with three other Rangers, I think they know who they are. I only hope that after we get shafted by the CU that they stick around a while.
I'd liketo point out that I think the CU is a good thing (tm)overall, however I fear it will cause more Rangers to quit the game than any other profession
Ziege19
Fri Apr 01, 2005 7:06 pm
#17
Owen-Lars wrote:In regards to the CU and the information that has come out (or lack thereof), will you be dropping ranger?Why are/arn't you dropping it?Is it only temporary until the revamp?
I probably will not drop it, because I'm hard headed and I still like being a Ranger. I know it will get fixed eventually, and I'm also a sort of patient person. If they were to come right out and say there would be no revamp, or that it would take longer than a month or two, I might reconsider. The Jedi quests will keep me busy in the mean time, and also whatever profession I decide to pick up in place of TKM after the CU will keep me busy (I don't grind much). I'm considering CH, and that would keep me occupied for a while.
If the revamp is a long time away, though, or if it is announced and it's lame, I would probably reconsider and go a completely different direction, like maybe Smuggler mixed with TK and Pistoleer or something. I really expected a SP reduction with the CU. I'm pretty shocked that they left us the highest SP. With increasing the SP costs of the other combat professions, it's definately causing me some grief. A lot of my game decisions are up in the air until I find out what they are doing with Ranger. Keeping me on hold for long enough could get me to drop it.
Typho
Fri Apr 01, 2005 7:15 pm
#18
In regards tothe CU and the information that has come out(or lack thereof),will you be dropping ranger? Not yet. If by the end of beta testing things don't look better I might. Keep in mind I love everything about Ranger, however, if I'm at a huge disadvantage from the rest of the player base I might be forced to.
Why are/arn'tyou dropping it? I love Ranger and have no desire to leave its ranks. However, if we're at that much of a disadvantage I might get rid of Master to pick up more combat related skills.
Is it only temporary until the revamp? If I drop some Ranger skills it will be until our profession gets fixed. This will hopefully be at the revamp.
Keep up the great work Owen (my son's name too), Calc, JB, Paks and all the rest!
Owen-Lars
Fri Apr 01, 2005 7:20 pm
#19
Typho Wrote:
"If I drop some Ranger skills it will be until our profession gets fixed. This will hopefully be at the revamp"
Yep, this will be the case with me. Ill still have my master ranger on TC, but my main will be switching if the revamp is longer than a month from the CU going live.
Oh and thanks for the great feedback everyone. Like calc said earlier, im not looking for one particular answer, just guaging the community, and its going great so far. Those that havnt posted, if you have the time feel free to post, this isa great for me to see your individual reactions to current events.
DaveG
Fri Apr 01, 2005 7:25 pm
#20
In regards tothe CU and the information that has come out(or lack thereof),will you be dropping ranger?
- No, I would hope to shape the rest of my template around my Master Ranger box. (I *might* try Master BH instead of rifleman though, I already hunt creatures and large star ships, so hunting humanoids seems the next logical step anyway)
Why are/arn'tyou dropping it?
- Because I am ranger, I personally identify with the role which I identify by two key parts: 1) Lone hunter and wildsman, 2) Guide and Protector. Furthermore, even though I haven't done anything else, I don't have any interest in anything else. Ranger allows me to come and go and be versatile in many roles. (for the record I'm not into PvP). Like the majority of us, it's the lifestyle, and I ain't giving it up for as long as I'm subscribing. Like others have stressed though, this doesn't mean I'm happy about the combat revamp, and nor does it mean thatI don't think ranger needs any attention. It just means like many others of us, I'll be a martyr to the lifestyle
Is it only temporary until the revamp?
- Only in as much if the revamp is so bad I cancel my account, and therefore my character ceases to be. (I have made preperations to do this by reducing my next subscription term from six months to one, my current six months runs out July 17th).
For what it's worth Owen, I think polls are a really good idea and much more efficient. It allows you to get quick feedback showing a profile of how everyone feels without us all getting bogged down in long debates.
Message Edited by DaveG on 04-02-2005 02:37 AM
Owen-Lars
Fri Apr 01, 2005 7:30 pm
#21
Yeah, its seems to be going well. I just dont want to see all sorts of polls popping up all over the place 
I think i may do some more as testing progresses, and encourage the department heads to use them too, they seem to work very well in regards to the CU.
Cheers for your feedback too
Owen-Lars
Fri Apr 01, 2005 7:37 pm
#23
martyr to the lifestyle is a good way to put it and something alot of us have been doing for too long 
Zaene1
Fri Apr 01, 2005 9:24 pm
#24
Owen-Lars wrote:
In regards tothe CU and the information that has come out(or lack thereof),will you be dropping ranger?
No. I'll quit the game before I drop it. If I don't like the way Ranger/Rifleman template plays I will consider quitting.
Why are/arn'tyou dropping it?
Master Ranger was my first elite profession and I have no desire to try any other non-combat prof.
Is it only temporary until the revamp?
If the ranger revamp is more than 2 months (the amount of time on a game card) after the CUthen I will stop playing and try to keep in touch with other players to see if and when the revamp happens.
Nemo0
Fri Apr 01, 2005 9:56 pm
#25
In regards tothe CU and the information that has come out(or lack thereof),will you be dropping ranger?
I don't know yet.I like playing around with the different professions out there but I really like being a Ranger.
Why are/arn'tyou dropping it?
If I do drop it, it will probably be to try out the other professions out there that I haven't tried yet (or some of the ones I have tried that will be different) while waiting on the revamp. If I don't, it will almost certainly because I like the idea of being a Ranger.
Is it only temporary until the revamp?
That depends on the revamp. Chances are, though, that the revamp will make or break the game for me. In all the professions I've mastered (14 or so now, I think), Ranger is the one that suits me best even though it is broken. If the revamp doesn't fix it in a way I like, I doubt I'll want to spend what little free time I have playing a profession I don't like as much.
SickSix
Fri Apr 01, 2005 11:27 pm
#26
Owen-Lars wrote:
In regards tothe CU and the information that has come out(or lack thereof),will you be dropping ranger? Yes
Why are/arn'tyou dropping it? Because i dont' need to know any more about how Ranger will be effective int he CU. Rifleman is not going to have ANY AOE attacks, therefore the Devs rating of 3 to Crowd Control is a complete fallacy. So Rifleman is Actually Offense=5 Defense=1 CrowdControl=1 And ranger will have NO abilities to make up for any of Riflemans weaknesses. And I will be a Rifleman no matter what. I'd like to say that about Ranger, but ranger is a HUGE skillpoint hawg that provides, honestly, NO real benefits.
Is it only temporary until the revamp? I hope so. I thought i'd be a Rifle Ranger forever.... but Ranger has taken an ugly turn. Rifleman has been described as the Nukers of combat, so i'll be hanging on to that. I also hate Jedi, so I'll probably just become a Temporary Nuking Bounty Hunter, until our revamp..... if the Revamp is worth it.