Politician Archive

Thread: Conquest!

Crapgame
Mon Nov 17, 2003 3:49 pm
#27

While I understand the desire of some people who want to play the democracy game and am happy that SOE has installed the system to allow them to do that, I on the other hand, do not.

This, after all, is Star Wars and I am an Imperial Governor dispatched by the Emperor to rule over his Imperial city.

Elections?! HAH! Go to some limp-wristed rebel city to participate in one of their little whiny debates, if that is your pleasure.

I serve at the pleasure of the Emperor. Only he will terminate my rule.

The citizens of my town are all aware of this fact and happily work together to serve the Empire. If they wanted to be Mayor in the first place they should be looking elsewhere.

In my case, and I speak for no other Mayors, the whole voting thing is merely a formality.

Some people in this game may have fun voting in all manners of elections, some people may not. The beauty of the system is that we can play both ways and both enjoy ourselves.



-CeeGee, Imperial Governor of Port Valorum
3300, 2250 Naboo, 1400m from Keren

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Shaedar
Mon Nov 17, 2003 6:26 pm
#28

Sorry mate, but griefing in my opinion really is just poor sportsmanship... true opposing factions are out to get one another... but personally I'm of the opinion that using poor game mechanics to defeat an opponent is poor sportmanship, like standing at spaceports and attacking defenseless players... i have no issues with standing at a spaceport and waiting for the players to be active before they are attacked... war is war... in the spirit of this here is a method of blocking your cheap tactics... and yes I'm aware that its stopping to poor game tactics, but still its preventative...everyone got hurt in the patch... thats no reason to be a jerk... you say you've had along term with this game... you'd think in all that time you'd have learned some manners...


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Regards,
Colonel Shaedar Haran - EC
Master Politician / Master Smuggler
Mayor - New Suntir, Lok, Sunrunner
(Imperial Stronghold w/ Improved Job Market)
Founder - Imperial Leadership Alliance
BenjyBathory
Mon Nov 17, 2003 7:14 pm
#29

Hypatain, i dont know all the rules about city ban, but i beleive that a person on the city ban list is not eligible to becomea citizen of the city that is banning him.
Aldroud
Mon Nov 17, 2003 7:31 pm
#30

Wow. What is up with you people? Have you never played a MMORPG that had conflict before? I've never tried Everquest, dropped Dark Age of Camelot after one month. The game I started with, Ultima Online, would have eaten you people for breakfast, at least before the Trammel split off carebear land.


"Sorry mate, but griefing in my opinion really is just poor sportsmanship"


"thats no reason to be a jerk... you say you've had along term with this game... you'd think in all that time you'd have learned some manners..."


"what you say here has justified whatever will the incumbent mayor will do to you and your ragtag band of wannabees. what you seek is what you get. "


By what ungodly stretch of the imagination can you assume that our activities are griefing? We're doing what we are forced to do to achieve our manifest destiny. 'The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few', dont they? And if not, then shouldnt 'to the victors go the spoils'?


We have three choices. One, we wait and hope the city caps is raised and in a manner that doesnt require us to take time off of work again (you ever try to explain to a boss why you need time off for a video game?). Two we go hat in hand to beg to join someone else's city in the hopes they let us in. Three we take a city the only way made possible by the designers. It is, after all, a game. In a game, there's winners and losers. It's move and counter-move.


I like the guy that mentioned the chess analogy. You dont sit down to play chess with someone and come to a mutually acceptable endgame, do you? And if it happens to us in turn down the road, then more power to the ones who did it. I doubt they'll succeed, but hey, anything's possible.


So, would I rather be able to march on someone's city and pillage and burn? Sure, much more in character. Am I able to do that with the carebear set of rules? No. Will I tell my now 63 person PA we're not gonna get our city we've been planning since beta? No again. We will have it, if I must take it, I will.


This is the ruleset of the world we live in. I've adapted. Why havent you?


Whine more rebel. The Emperor has you.

Seneardon
Tue Nov 18, 2003 2:13 am
#31

If anyone from the target guild reads this thread, have your mayor do this:


Make a huge gaurdian statue. Name it "Upyoursgiriefingscum" during crafting phase or something to that effect. Place it directly OVER the voting terminal...heck make three or 4 so there is no chance of getting to it. When the week roles around, the st00pid l33t d00ds will be default voting for you.Shoot all the taxes as high asyou can, refund your people.Deputize a militia....hey get fancy and add a rebel baseif there is room. Kill these dimwits over and over, bleed them with taxes...all the while they are voting for you. Ohhh the humanity. Is this cheap? Yea. Would i do it? No. But they appear bent to use game mechanics meant to prevent griefing by a mayor or small group to grief you out of a home. You have no real way to fight or stop them...sadly numbers wins. So takie advantage of the sloppy code to have the last laugh.


Seneardon
Tue Nov 18, 2003 2:25 am
#32

BTW im all for conquest...hehe i played shadowbane from beta till recently. There needs to be a way to tie in conquest to the GSW...fighting with guns, not with small genarics and personal harvestors.
Aldroud
Tue Nov 18, 2003 2:30 am
#33

EXCUSE ME?


WHICH ONE OF US IS THE GRIEFER/EXPLOITER AND WHICH OF US IS PLAYING THE GAME USING THE RULESET GIVEN?


YOU ARE AN ABHORRENCE TO MMORPGS!


How DARE you post an exploit like that intending to circumvent game mechanics?! How DARE you call me a l33T D00D? These are not tools ment to prevent a mayor from being griefed, these are EXPLOITS that can be used to GRIEF valid players attempting a political take over of a city USING THE METHODS ALLOWED.


Scum like you arent fit enough for the spice mines. Better to shoot you and use your skull as a doorstop.


"You have no real way to fight or stop them...sadly numbers wins" <--- That's the entire point to it. Numbers win. Like I always say, there's no such thing as a fair fight. If you claim you got ganked, you just didnt bring enough friends.


I should report you to the CSRs for encouraging exploitation and griefing.

PosiTec
Tue Nov 18, 2003 6:59 am
#34

The solution here is VERY simple.


Have enough of the current citizens un-declare to bring the city bellow the number needed for expansion.


Let the little kids stay outside the city. They seem like the sort who will hate that


Thay have wasted a bunch of time and money moving all of their houses, simply make them wait and wait. Im pretty sure they will get bored and go away.


slugeater
Tue Nov 18, 2003 6:59 am
#35

"This, after all, is Star Wars and I am an Imperial Governor dispatched by the Emperor to rule over his Imperial city. "


You're not. You're a guy that pays 15$ a month to play a game, like the rest of us.




Sluggy Devlya
Master Smuggler-Politician
Avian City-Talus-Chilastra

Best way to deal with the tall guys is to give them incentives to lick the ground. And dont look down on me that way youre not THAT taller.

ZenMaster
Tue Nov 18, 2003 7:06 am
#36

And slugeater is some guy who missed the RPG tacked onto MMO in MMORPG, isn't he?
ZenMaster
Tue Nov 18, 2003 7:23 am
#37

Oh... And Seneardon. Must suck to be an exploiter, and then to not be any good at it. All you have to do is stand in the geometry of the statue and it dissapears. If you're too tall.. kneel or go prone. You can still use the terminal, no problem.
Crapgame
Tue Nov 18, 2003 7:34 am
#38



slugeater wrote:

"This, after all, is Star Wars and I am an Imperial Governor dispatched by the Emperor to rule over his Imperial city. "

You're not. You're a guy that pays 15$ a month to play a game, like the rest of us.






Not entirely correct.

I pay my $15 to role play an Imperial Governor sent by the Emperor to rule over his Imperial City.

From the sounds of it, you do not. No surprise really. The Emperor is good at separating the true Leaders from the rank and file.



-CeeGee, Imperial Governor of Port Valorum
3300, 2250 Naboo, 1400m from Keren

http://www.ghostsoldiers.org
http://www.swgcenter.com/
Saratoga
Tue Nov 18, 2003 1:23 pm
#39

Seems like thiskid is looking for attention and we have all fallen for it! I got somekid saying the same thing within an hour of putting my city up on Tatoonie. The first thing I did was have everyone put a second house, factory, or harvester in the expansion zone between 150-200 meters. The second expansion will be more difficult to protect. City is going will and we are already at 30+ people and I have no room for more to vote this week. No invaders at our doors. NO room for them!


If the mayor is smart he will boost taxes to 100% across the board and reimburse the true citizens. If the mayor is ignorant enough to not notice then he will be given the first Political Darwin Award for the game. We do patrols every night to determine if there is any encraochment and dont get me wrong we want people to flock in and I personally dont care who is mayor as long as they are mature and can make the right calls





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