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Thread: Your worst nightmare no longer skillpoints for politician

SCARFACE187
Sat Jan 22, 2005 5:15 am
#14


I think politician is fine the way it is. it is a profession just like any other. i am not worried about all the new mayors that are going to pop up. what bothers me is they did not fix the real prolem with the skill, give us a reason to want to master politician give us useable skills, in every box. give us something in the master box.


i personally want the specialzation that grants a bonus to doc, and entertainer buffs. fix or give us a new veriation of city warn. the list goes on and on.

Message Edited by SCARFACE187 on 01-22-2005 04:17 AM





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Cigaran
Sat Jan 22, 2005 3:07 pm
#15






Traie wrote:





DarthScin wrote:

Additionally, how many people will willingly elect a novice politician over a master politician?


This also opens up the possibility of actually seeing campaigns instead of "don't forget to vote for the incumbant again this term."




What do you deem "compaigning"? It's not like mayors have alot of power anyways. Any candidate can say "Vote for me and you'll have no taxes."



And as far as a novice vs a master. Guild X gets invited into a city to fatten the citizen count. Then Guild X puts a novice up who gets elected because the guild is stronger than the other citizens. Now you've just lost the city to someone else.



As long as skill points are required for politician, it'll keep possible griefers out.









So you honestly think that a mayor and city would invite a guild that has the numbers to do this without having a long standing reationship with them? Honestly, I don't consider a guild unless I:


A) Know the Guild Leader and have done so for a while.


B) Know the reputation of the Guild in general.


C) Know how many of the Guild will be relocating to the city.



I don't mean any disrespect but if you are incorperating guilds that are that large and you have not done your homework, you are pretty much asking for it to start with.




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Blackferne
Sat Jan 22, 2005 8:47 pm
#16

I quit politician and bought an alt to be mayor(he mastred also)over skill points. If this had been in effect I would have stayed with just one account and been Master Politician/MBH/MSL. But this is over a year too late.


I'm a big fan of this.



Jounville Blackferne
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Moonkat
Sat Jan 22, 2005 11:49 pm
#17






Blackferne wrote:

I quit politician and bought an alt to be mayor(he mastred also)over skill points. If this had been in effect I would have stayed with just one account and been Master Politician/MBH/MSL. But this is over a year too late.


I'm a big fan of this.







Listen to Blackferne, for once.


I kid.


Seriously, though ... I think you guys are really forgeting what a pain in the arse it is to make a city. Most of the planets people want to be in have long been at caps. Most of the people you are afraid of don't have the real-life skills it takes to even get to 10 citizens, let alone maintain and grow a city, if they have the desire to in the first place. It will all be the same in the long run as it has so far except those of us who are really into it will get to have a fully-developed character. Nobody elects someone just because they're a political science major - they elect them because they have some realistic value as a public servant to which the voters can relate.




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ruairi
Sun Jan 23, 2005 5:47 pm
#18

I think some difference could be useful. For a start, the basic profession level skillpoint charges are to high for politician, (these being 14 points higher then mastering an elite profession).


If it is free though, you will soon see your newly regained points as something you have little time to afford, as you will need to spend alot of your time keeping your citizens happy, understatement, keeping them in a would-be utopia, as I'm sure Pappi can confirm, people are very good at telling you how you've done your job wrong, but imagine if they could simply replace you WITH anyone.


The skillpoints ensure DEDICATION. Without those points needed, any one person who fancies themself a better mayor of YOUR city then you may have a go.


Why would you settle for an outpost when you could challenge the mayor of a full city?


I hope the devs do the right thing at keep at least 80% of the skillpoints needed.


Mayor Ruu Tarnao

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Vrond
Mon Jan 24, 2005 7:01 pm
#19

I think this is going to cause chaos if it goes live. On an agressive server like Ahazi coupe de ta will be the order of the day.


The problem is not why would any one gain by votting for a new mayor the problem is that new mayor has to give up nothing to make the attempt and they can do so al long as it takes to oust the current mayor at no cost.



Vrond Novawolf
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Xscape
Mon Jan 24, 2005 7:57 pm
#20

Great and very welcomed change !! woohoo I can finally get may character back. But they also need to add ways to prevent what the poster above me pointed out, however the politican profession is so completely useless that having it cost skills is ludicrous. This is the way to go we just have to adapt to new changes and safeguard our cities by holding elections even when not needed to make sure that no trespassers can take over.

Message Edited by Xscape on 01-25-2005 03:59 AM






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warrenbassist
Tue Jan 25, 2005 8:59 am
#21

Don't really know how I feel about this change yet, just dropping by to see if it truly require 0 sp, or if I misread the patch notes. I do like the fact that this may increase the chance of campaigning mayors, and allows mayors to be more than someones alt character to keep a guild happy. So far, it looks good in text, hope it works as well live.
RareGem
Tue Jan 25, 2005 8:59 am
#22

As mayor of a roleplay town I am so happy about this... people can actually try and run against me for plot reasons... and best of all.. I DON'T ACTUALLY NEED TO BE MAYOR!!!




This is going to be a very interesting time



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tacwraith
Tue Jan 25, 2005 10:11 am
#23

I think its a great thing that politician is a 0 skill point proffession now.

Most of the cities ive been in and visited are nothing but dumps with horribly disorganized houses and shops and even worse, theres nothing that tells one city apart from another.

With anyone being able to be politician we get the ability now to have these dump-cities get a makeover.




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Rapidwolf
Tue Jan 25, 2005 11:03 am
#24

I think its mad, people get a laugh out of griefing at thats what they will do, destroy peps who hve worked hard to get politician. There will be a city boom! but then the cties will collapse because none of em couuld be bothered running it proper since most mayors lose money most of em will drop it. But it wil nolonger be a rare sight, it will be like pilot every1 will hve it in da back ground and just enter elections randomly i think they should hve kept atleast 80% of the sp required




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Laeren
Tue Jan 25, 2005 11:20 am
#25

I've been looking forward to this. I think I've managed to build a stable, honorable and trustworthy relationship with my citizens. I believe they think I'm doing a good job and that they would want to keep me as mayor.


This change will allow me to level up in architect now, so that I can make my own decorations for the city and name them what I want. I'm not afraid of just any ole person coming in and challenging me in an election, because I believe I'm doing a good job and I believe my citizens feel the same way and would vote for me in that election. And at any point where the majority of them think that I'm not doing a good job and that a challenger would, that's the day they would elect someone new and I would step down.


Just becauseu 'anyone' can run, doesn't mean you should feel threatened, if you have worked hard to earn the trust of your city. And if you haven't, that's what elections are all about.


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LordDredd
Tue Jan 25, 2005 11:43 am
#26

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Laeren wrote:

I've been looking forward to this. I think I've managed to build a stable, honorable and trustworthy relationship with my citizens. I believe they think I'm doing a good job and that they would want to keep me as mayor.

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