Pistoleer Archive

Thread: Pistoleer State of the Profession Report (11/6/03)

Emavi
Wed Feb 04, 2004 7:04 am
#92

Since Im at work I havent had time to really read everything and see what the EXACT state of this profession is but I have to say this. Im pretty disapointed in the profession right now. We should be better than we are...


I have a full set ofgood pistols with good stats. Many times while hunting with my guild, I am outperformed by a rifleman in our group while we are both at pointblank range. hes doin TONS more damage than I am. Id expect that from a further range but point blank? Come on! I examine the target, I use the weapons they are vulnerable to but Im not doingnear as much damage to the target. I use the only DoT I have (healthshot1 since healthshot2 doesnt seem to do anything), and pretty much spam fan shot and the occasional pistolmelee1 to MAYBE knock them down (pistolmelee2 doesnt ever work). All the other shots dont do anything. Stopping shot does good damage but rarely actually stops them (maybe im laggin and dont see it I dunno).. I think as a whole the pistoleer profession is out of balance and is underpowered.


Im a master doctor and master pistoleer. Im wondering if I should have done tka instead, or maybe something else besides pistoleer. It just seems so weak compared to other master professions.. Am I missing something? Am I doin somethin wrong? Whats the deal!!!!!??????



SushiXR
Sat Feb 07, 2004 2:38 am
#93

Great report! Thanks for the hardwork! Definitely opened my eyes to what is happening. Safe Journies everyone!



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Goyanmtp
Wed Feb 11, 2004 9:18 am
#94

Hi,


this report is dated 11/6/03, are there any changes now in feb 2004? or is it still broken? I'm new to swg...buildingskills for smuggler/pistol.. should I switch to another elite?



Ragemaster9999
Fri Feb 13, 2004 5:40 am
#95

Yes this post is quite old. The pistoleer is much better now, dodge, meele defence and most specials have been fixed. Its a good profession, and realtivly easy to advance.Its working just fine, but needs abit more polish.



Oiwik Kalmor the Rodian. Final profession pending.
I love the NGE... don't you?
Eclipso25
Mon Feb 16, 2004 6:06 am
#96

I think the only real problem with pistoleer is the broken specials. I picked up smuggler line to replace the broken pistoleer specials and it works fine. It would be nice to be able to save the skill points by using pistoleer specials. The speed issue seems to be a universal problem that the devs are trying to figure out. Check fencer forum they have the same complaint.



Eclipso

EoF
SushiXR
Wed Feb 18, 2004 11:46 am
#97

How far did you get on Pistoleer before you started picking up on Smuggler? Just wanted to know so I can have an idea on what to do. You see, I'm just starting out on Pistoleer. Thanks in advance.




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Eclipso25
Thu Feb 19, 2004 5:05 am
#98

I actually got master before I went for the smuggler line. I didn't read the the forums before I started, so I discovered as I went that the specials where broken. If I had know I probably would have done smuggler first. With the smuggler specials you will fly up the pistoleer tree. Plus having feign death when your leveling with come in handy.



Eclipso

EoF
Imed
Sun Feb 22, 2004 2:19 pm
#99

Excellent report. If these issues are addressed maybe i can drop blademaster. Having master fencer under my belt is the only way i can compete with my pistol skills.


Well said and I hope someone at SOE is listening!


Imed Rary

Tarquinas Galaxy

CLONE<DNA>
Benkos
Sun Feb 22, 2004 10:02 pm
#100

Well man i just think it is a big shame you have to spend your playing time in doing this concist analisis of the profesion. I know that you as all of us have other things to do and the paying time is extemly cherish.... And the worst thing is that i really doubt the devs even look at this........... why is if you do that cheffs creature handlers, now droid designers and then who knows what are giveng first priority...... our profesion is brokeb sice the beguining... and seriously broken........ i love pvp and while a rifleman can kill me in 2 shots with strafe2 i have to shoot 3 times befor hiting him once with my specials....... is just ridiculous......... and what about the fancy armors everybody is using now.... we dont have a chance to penetrate them.... the tangle pistol is so bad that it barely hurts them... the republic that has pircing and Dx... same resoult.... is just ridicoulos...



The worst thing is that if they do read this they should have schedueled a FIX of the profesion at some time........



DEVS: DO YOU EVER READ THE FORUMS??????????????????????????


After doing 100 msns it gets absolutly boring...... pvp was the only funn for me.......... but the unbalances are so dam big that makes me mad.......



CMON....... SERIOUSLY............ DO YOU READ THIS OR THIS GUY JUST LOST HIS PLAYING TIME FOR NOTING............ ARE $15 A MOTH NOT ENOUGTH YOU MAKE YOU RICH AND CARE ABOUT PEOPLE COMPLAINS??????????



You have every where posted things about SWG winign prices for best game ans stuff......... well thats for the people that only play it for a few months and dont realice the huge HUGE HUGE problems this game has......


Im so damn tired of great unbalances in profesions... the horrible desing in armor vs dmg........




Man your post was great but i think it was for nothing....... They dont really check this......... They are to busy making money for the big company....... Doing only the revamps that call the most atention and not really the most fair needed ones........




bah.... i was playing this game to much anyway....... im kinda glad it sucks so much......



PVP= horrible horrible design......... horrible!!!!!!!!!


electricnomad
Wed Feb 25, 2004 1:30 pm
#101




Goyanmtp wrote:

Hi,


this report is dated 11/6/03, are there any changes now in feb 2004? or is it still broken? I'm new to swg...buildingskills for smuggler/pistol.. should I switch to another elite?




Theonly changes are that:



  1. The DX2 had its ideal range accuracy improved in a big way;

  2. Dodge now works, and works very well; and

  3. Fan Shot works like it had previous to being broken on Test Center, as an AOE shot doing 4x damage.

Other than that, Pistoleer is just as broken as it was since Fall 2003. Pretty sad, really. Let's hope the combat rebalance means that the specials that have been broken since launch finally start working. Hey, it's only been, what, the better part of a year?





"We're dedicating a designer (Green Marine) next week to looking into fixing some of the bigger issues of the smuggler. (Yes, we are also looking at issues with the other professions, the smuggler just seems to be the one needing the most love at this moment)." Q-3PO - September 16, 2003
Great Threads in Smuggler History, Vol. I / Vol. II / Vol. III - Collected Posts by the Devs Concerning Smugglers
***ELECTRICNOMAD RETIRED FROM SWG ON 7 MAY 2004***

Jimithan
Mon Mar 01, 2004 12:49 am
#102

Ok I just got master pistoleer and thought i would come on the forums and finaly check on the what was up with melleedefence 2 maybe they were gonna had a dizzy to it so it would be a KD, dizzy, anyway i saw there thread so i started ready and 45min later im finished omg it was LONG anyway worth reading. They havent fixed anything i agree that they are money grabbing people Who just release pointless stupid things that dont work eather so they just give themselfs more things to fix like the imp crackdown sorry imps but it is STUPID and pointless i havent been scanned once and all it does it give FP to rebels. I really hope they fix pistoleer more or i might end dropping it for commando or something but all i have to say THANK GOD I WENT BOUNTY HUNTER FIRST!!!!!!




Kras


Jimithan
Mon Mar 01, 2004 12:52 am
#103

Sorry bout that they ALSO messed up tab in this Game so I accednly posted to posts


Kras

BH-0 3 4 0

pistleer-MASTER(after all this work it DOESNT WORK)
CaptBlah
Sat Mar 06, 2004 1:43 am
#104

well I must say that i am pretty heart broken. This is my first mmo. The reason I went with this game is I am a big SW fan, and sony has never let me down. So, Did i make a mistake buying this game? When I search the boards looking at the different professions it semms every single one has issues. I am very upset that I paid 50 bucks for this game and then 15 more a month. I even got my friends to go out and buy it. (oops) So what are the devs doing. Do they need to hire more ppl. Im available for work. So my question is, Is it worth the time effort and money? I guess i will stick it out till the space expansion, And if pistoleer and smuggler (er slicer/drug pusher) are not fixed I am leaving, and I suggest everyone else do the same. Or at least a lengthy boycott so we can get the dev's attention! So come on, get your asses and gear and give us what we paid for.
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