Pistoleer Archive

Why would you want to take away one of the few things Bounty Hunters have to make them unique? We're already inherently restricted to being JUST BH (and very little else).. Why would you take this away from us? Do you really NEED it? Heck no. You just want every last tiny little advantage you can get for yourselves.

Here's news for you. Master BH takes on Master Pistoleer, both use Pistol. BH starts fight off with Eye Shot, Pistoleer starts off with Stopping Shot. Because Blind has really no tangible effect and Pistoleers have insane Accuracy bonuses (all the Accuracy while ____ things stack with plain Accuracy), BH goes down with one shot and he's dead. Game over. If you're using an AR1 Pistol (like the SR Combat) the effect is even worse. If the BH starts off with any other Pistol special they have (except perhaps Fast Blast, but no one knows since no one's tested that) the result is the same.

Alternatively, let's say the BH is wearing full Composite. OK, BH fires off his Eyeshot, does about 650 to the Mind pool (not enough to incap anyone, ESPECIALLY if they're wearing a helmet), Pistoleer hits Pistol Whip. BH goes down and the Pistoleer controls the rest of the fight.

BH is NOT better with a Pistol than Master Pistoleer, despite our +1 Speed (or whatever it is) bonus.

Bounty Hunters are currently struggling just to get 2 lines of their skill tree to the point where someone in their right mind would want to train them up. They just nerfed our Carbine line (knockdown's going to cost us 350 Action here on out), and our Pistol line does NOT make us better than you with a Pistol. And you still want to dig us even deeper in the ground.

C'mon, now... Don't you see the problem with this?

Ummm, we're not trying to take away the thing that makes you Unique. Did I or any of us ever mention that I wanted to be able to track down people? Nope, not in here, I think you are confusing us with the ranger board, go further down on the class list

I don't get the hang up on names. So a scatter pistol is a "pistol". Its a bounty hunter specific weapon. If we want to play with symantics(sic?) a "bounty hunter" is ACTUALLY a "bail bonds enforcer". So I guess all those missions we do is to recapture dead beats who missed out on their court date. Lets play another word game. A "pistol" is not really just ANY handgun. So if we call a scatter gun a "revolver" its ok? Whats the difference between a carbine and rifle? One shoots projectiles and one doesn't? You ever hear or see a scatter gun? Do the projectiles look or sound like those of any other pistol?

I'm sure you have plenty of skill points left over to be able to use a Scatter/Launcher Pistol if you really wanted.

I'll refer you to the bowcaster issue someone pointed out above. It's a rifle, only wookiees can use it. Do you see riflemen crying that they can't use a bowcaster? Another point, Commandos havea heavy acid rifle, I don't see the riflemen complaining that they can't use that either.

The Launcher Pistol certainly does not fit the description of a Gunfighter. For one, it's definitely not something you can 'draw' with. The Scatter Pistol seems to underhanded and sneaky for an honorable Gunfighter to use, hence the Bounty Hunter restriction.

you say we arent a pure class cause we can do others and BH is one because its the only advanced profession you can have...well then im sayin your pretty stupid, i can own an BH and for him to waste all those skill points lol...not very fun huh

Of course you aren't a pure class, hell your sig says that much (masters smuggler/pistoleer). I could care less if you can beat the crap out of a BH.

A) he was almost certainly NOT a master

B) there is a misconception that BH are all powerful so the Quake players all want to be one and never get past BH pistol 4. A master BH effectively weeds them out making them do mind numbing (not to mention broke) BH missions.

C) You have the benefits of BOTH pistoleer and smuggler line (ranged/melee knockdown, panic shot)

D) If you are the 1st in all these categories (first Master on Bria or whatever) I'm guessing you probably play a HELL of a lot more than most people and have a sweet system with little lag. I'm not discrediting your skill, to the contrary I'm saying that makes a big difference in PvP instead of rellying SOLELY on combat modifiers.

you can make 200k an hour in the narglatch cave outside moenia...least before they nerfed the spawn time, and i did that for most my exp.

rest of my exp was spent by wayfer at the tuskin camp

And ok ok, we may not be a pure profession but by the definition of pure, hardly anyone is pure...a pure profession would be one of the 5 starting profession and mastering it and never doing anything else. Pure means not mixed...so you could either be a Master Scout,Marksman,Medic,Artisan, or Entertainer....

you can make 200k an hour in the narglatch cave outside moenia...least before they nerfed the spawn time, and i did that for most my exp.

So are you saying the experience you got in order to meet the bulk of BH requirements came from an exploit that has since been fixed? Oh ya, good basis for an arugment.

The marksman exp i partly did...as i said i got all of my pistol exp and ranged at wayfar...rifle i got at the narglatch cave, scout exp i got off harvesting banthas by wayfar and trapping i got from throwin traps at any **edit** that moved...so there you go

You guys are looking to much into the pure class aspect man, calm down. In order to become a Master Pistoleer, you have to learn one thing, Pistoleer, pure class, pure profession. In order to learn BH, you have to learn Scouting, marksman, then BH. So your not just a bounty hunter, your also a Master Scout and a Master Marksman, so your a hybrid, Master Pistoleer only needs to master, Master Pistoleer. do you see what I mean now? Off the top of my head, whichout looking to much into it, the only pure professions is pistoleer, carbineer, and rifleman. Because they don't need to learn anything else except for their weapons line. Simple, Don't look to much into it.

Actually Devir, How are you getting full 800 exp in 20 minutes from the medium tent's? I'm serious, it would take me 30 minutes to get it while sampling crap and using stimpacks for the heal mods and stuff. If I had two people in my camp I could get the full exp in 15 mintues. I never paid attention to 3 people, I might try it out tonight (not like I need it anymore) but I would be interested to know, I have another character on starside which I would like to start playing some more

Has anyone answered my question? If Pistoleers should be able to use a scatter pistol (BH only pistol), should a two handed swordsmen be able to use a lightsabre (jedi only 2 handed sword)? And remember a two handed swordsman is a master of ALL 2 handed swords. Anyone care to address this?

Sure they can use a lightsabre, of course without knowledge of the force they should be just as likely to kill or maim themselves as their opponent

You're reaching Steenky, Jedi <> BH.