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Thread: Humanoid NPCs RED to Master Pistoleer

Kaabezza
Sat Apr 17, 2004 7:10 am
#66



Sanderman wrote:
also look at the HAM and there resist.Also are you usin good weapons.u sould have atleast 1kind of pistol for every dmg type there is that we get.
and when they say certain death that means you are most likly goin to die.dont know how you became a master pistoleer with out usin buffs and armor.



I was a master pistoleer before wookiee armor. When I'd go on a hunt for big game, I'd get buffed. That's GAME not humans. Game = animals.



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Kaabezza
Sat Apr 17, 2004 7:13 am
#67



evmiller wrote:
Personally, I always thought SWG would be more fun and interesting if the combat system was more like Ghost Recon or Ranbow Six. One good burst and your dead. Then your personal skill and tactics will be more important.



an interesting idea, but if you want that play planet side.



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kingmaximus
Sat Apr 17, 2004 7:40 am
#68

if your talking about cas on lok he has the same stats as a giant dune kimo
Kaabezza
Sat Apr 17, 2004 8:01 am
#69


kingmaximus wrote:
if your talking about cas on lok he has the same stats as a giant dune kimo



Not talking about Cas, but HOLY COW that's a lot of HAM for a guy to have!

Message Edited by Kaabezza on 04-17-2004 10:02 AM



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Kaabezza
Sat Apr 17, 2004 8:26 am
#70


BZebub wrote:
i've been one-shot killed by a 'weak mercenary' on tatooine. how's that for pwned?



That's the definition of being "pwned" If I meet you in PVP and mow you down with out me getting a scratch. I owned you. Now If we have a good duel and are evenly matched and you kill me, I wasn't owned.. just bested.

And depending on your level with pistols... if you're a mastrer, that shouldn't have happened.

Message Edited by Kaabezza on 04-17-2004 10:28 AM



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JCatano
Sat Apr 17, 2004 11:54 am
#71






Kaabezza wrote:





JCatano wrote:





Kaabezza wrote:





JCatano wrote:


We do comprehend what you're saying. You are upset, because a NPC without a name/affiliation killed/"owned" you. Oh, the horror........







with a comment like that, you obviously still don't.









Kaabezza wrote:


Why are there Humanoid NPCs who can completely own a Master Pistoleer? I went to Lok the other day and came accross some mercs all of whom were "certain death" when /considered. I figured this might be a bug so I found one off by himself and opened fire with my pistol. He killed me in THREE shots. This guy wasn't like a big boss or anything. He was just some guy generated out in the middle of nowhere.

To give you an idea about me. I'm a Master Pistoleer, BH 0 0 2 0, Novice Medic. Species is Wookiee. I was unbuffed and had no armor, but I shouldn't have to have them to kill some random NPC.







Again, you are complaining, because a NPC killed you. For some strange reason, you don't think he should have been able to do so.









again you aren't reading what I'm saying. He could kill me, but not completely own me. There's a difference there that you STILL didn't read. Ug.




The NPC was a red con on a high level planet. He beat thesnot out of you. I don't care if you were Rambo, let alone a Master Pistoleer. I also don't care that it was a human NPC. What the heck does that have to do with anything? Humans aren't allowed to be strong?


I see in a later post you have now changed your stance to where you shouldn't have to be buffed or armored to beat red cons. Well, truth be told, the devs already said that nobody should be able to solo a red mob, although most of us can (because of buffsand armor). Guess what? Their idea was working in your little scenario.


Pick a gripe and stick withit. You first complained of getting killed. Now, you say that you shouldn't have to be buffed and armored tosolo a red con. You won't get far with that logic in regard to the latter.

Vincentarasin
Sat Apr 17, 2004 2:37 pm
#72

Uhh, thats a weak shot, iv done upward of 600damage with stoppingshot(in PvP).



You came across a normal npc, ever been Stopping'd by npcs? it hurts too.


Wait until you find a tuskin warlord, and he whaps you for 2k damage=D


Or the Named tuskins who whap ya for 6k, bahaha



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Sanderman
Sat Apr 17, 2004 3:15 pm
#73

lol sorry i was callin you names i was hella tyerd.and crankie(sp?)just got off a long day at work.


but like we are all sayin it was a red con mob.like we have all said you just got a bad roll of the dice and he was a high mob then you.


yeah the wookkie armor might suck but it is beter then havein no armor at all.and buffs help a hell of alot.just dont go lookin for trouble on lok mostly every huminoid on lok is a high ranged mobed with atleast 9k ham.from what is have seen.



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Oberon131313
Sun Apr 18, 2004 12:48 am
#74






Kaabezza wrote:
You still don't get it. There should be no way that a humanoid lacky should have more potential than a player. The fact that he was red to me means he was so far beyond my skill that I'd have a snowball's chance to even wound him.





so you are pissed at the game's random name generator then? (I know you aren't, and I'm waiting for the "you aren't reading" we all know is coming)


See, when people post stuff like what I just did, it's not because we aren't reading, it's because we are trying to prove a point....anyways, back to my point...


You've already stated that it was a red con mob. That was un-named. And this red con mob killed you. Sounds to me like you should be yelling at the random name generator.


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Kaabezza
Sun Apr 18, 2004 5:45 am
#75


JCatano wrote:


Kaabezza wrote:


JCatano wrote:


Kaabezza wrote:


JCatano wrote:

We do comprehend what you're saying. You are upset, because a NPC without a name/affiliation killed/"owned" you. Oh, the horror........




with a comment like that, you obviously still don't.


Kaabezza wrote:

Why are there Humanoid NPCs who can completely own a Master Pistoleer? I went to Lok the other day and came accross some mercs all of whom were "certain death" when /considered. I figured this might be a bug so I found one off by himself and opened fire with my pistol. He killed me in THREE shots. This guy wasn't like a big boss or anything. He was just some guy generated out in the middle of nowhere.

To give you an idea about me. I'm a Master Pistoleer, BH 0 0 2 0, Novice Medic. Species is Wookiee. I was unbuffed and had no armor, but I shouldn't have to have them to kill some random NPC.


Again, you are complaining, because a NPC killed you. For some strange reason, you don't think he should have been able to do so.





again you aren't reading what I'm saying. He could kill me, but not completely own me. There's a difference there that you STILL didn't read. Ug.

The NPC was a red con on a high level planet. He beat the snot out of you. I don't care if you were Rambo, let alone a Master Pistoleer. I also don't care that it was a human NPC. What the heck does that have to do with anything? Humans aren't allowed to be strong?

I see in a later post you have now changed your stance to where you shouldn't have to be buffed or armored to beat red cons. Well, truth be told, the devs already said that nobody should be able to solo a red mob, although most of us can (because of buffs and armor). Guess what? Their idea was working in your little scenario.

Pick a gripe and stick with it. You first complained of getting killed. Now, you say that you shouldn't have to be buffed and armored to solo a red con. You won't get far with that logic in regard to the latter.




I see you still have read nothing. or if you did you chose to ignor most of it. Yes red, yes red = getting owned, BUT that should not have happened. It should not be red to me. White, maybe, but not red.

Read the first post. It says I should not have to have buffs or armor. The fact that you say I changed my stance tells me that you ignored everything I've been saying. It's not a complaint about being killed. I've been killed many times and it hasn't bothered me. Open your eyes and don't just read what you want to read. Read it all.

I said humanoid, not human. That includes every playable species in the game (and some others). This particular mob was a Zabrak. He should not be able to be more powerful than a player. Non-named Humanoid NPCs should have the same limitations as a player.



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Kaabezza
Sun Apr 18, 2004 5:50 am
#76



Oberon131313 wrote:


Kaabezza wrote:
You still don't get it. There should be no way that a humanoid lacky should have more potential than a player. The fact that he was red to me means he was so far beyond my skill that I'd have a snowball's chance to even wound him.


so you are pissed at the game's random name generator then? ( I know you aren't, and I'm waiting for the "you aren't reading" we all know is coming)
See, when people post stuff like what I just did, it's not because we aren't reading, it's because we are trying to prove a point....anyways, back to my point...
You've already stated that it was a red con mob. That was un-named. And this red con mob killed you. Sounds to me like you should be yelling at the random name generator.
NERF TEH NAME GENERATOR!!!!1!!!threeeminustwo!!!1



No. That was fine to pop next to me like it did. You all seem to be hung up on the fact that it was red, all the time I'm saying it shouldn't be red. White or yellow, but not red to a master level (plus BH w/ eyeshot).

The fact that a RED killed me is not my problem. Rancors kill me all the time, they're red to me, but rancors are creatures and not included in my arguments. My argument is vs non-named (random punks) humaniods.



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Kaabezza
Sun Apr 18, 2004 5:51 am
#77



Vincentarasin wrote:
Uhh, thats a weak shot, iv done upward of 600damage with stoppingshot(in PvP).
You came across a normal npc, ever been Stopping'd by npcs? it hurts too.
Wait until you find a tuskin warlord, and he whaps you for 2k damage=D
Or the Named tuskins who whap ya for 6k, bahaha



Isn't it strange that a Tusken with a weaker weapon than mine can hit for 2k? I wish I could hit for 2k.



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Kaabezza
Sun Apr 18, 2004 5:53 am
#78



Sanderman wrote:
lol sorry i was callin you names i was hella tyerd.and crankie(sp?)just got off a long day at work.
but like we are all sayin it was a red con mob.like we have all said you just got a bad roll of the dice and he was a high mob then you.
yeah the wookkie armor might suck but it is beter then havein no armor at all.and buffs help a hell of alot.just dont go lookin for trouble on lok mostly every huminoid on lok is a high ranged mobed with atleast 9k ham.from what is have seen.



It's cool, but try to see past the "red" part. Sure it was red to me, but he/she should not have been because players are supposed to be the galaxy's ultimate humanoid butt-kicker not the NPCs who whork for someone else.



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