Pistoleer Archive

I'm still not sure that SanTzu read any of the posts I made in this thread. I also don't think Bolanos read all of my posts. I don't recall stating, in any of the posts I made in this thread, that I supported a nerf on pistoleers or insinuating that they needed one. I did list some of the problems with our profession simply to try to explain why the person who made this thread did so (although it was both immature and pointless) just to express that he was frustrated at what's become of our profession and that other players were the cause of our nerf.

I also never insinuated that pistoleers were the cause of all of our problems. As I stated above, I was simply trying to illustrate why the creator of this thread was frustrated and perhaps convey to some people in a working profession what we're going through currently. You can also take a look at the Commando forum...They're even worse off than we are.

I would be more than happy to hear other professions' ideas of how to help balance out some of the current problems and get the classes working (although as I've stated in other threads, all combat classes should not becompletelybalanced, because that's for an FPS, not an RPG).

And also as I stated in one of my other posts, I am against all nerfs. That is not the proper way to balance a game *especially* at this early stage. There's plenty that needs to be fixed before all of the balancing issues are resolved because once everything works, that will change all of the balances again which will result in a lot of wasted (or misallocated) time.

I only did it because the BH threads are FULL of pointless immature threads from pistoleers and I didn't see any BHs posting in THEIR forum..

plus I'm pissed that the devs are chit chatting with thema bout stupid **edit** like twirly gun effects when our class is devastated, unusable, and underpowered

BH are pathetic, the class sucks from top to bottom. They shouldnt be better than any of the combat professions at their respective weapons, nor should it cost as much as it does to become one, I don't know what the solution is.

As for what Pistoleers (or Riflemen or Carbineers) need compared to BH, the only thing the BH has is that it takes more skill points.

Pistoleers spend more time (it takes 4.4M xp to become MP compared to 4.1M xp for MBH), spend WAY more xp on the pistol (by more than a factor of 3:1) and have more combat xp that they must acquire (420k:72k). The only thing that the BH has over a pistoleer is that they had to become Master Scout, which is trivial, really, and in no way contribute to the combat viability to a character other than running away real well.

Even when they do get all of the classes "balanced out" the BH is going to be left behind. They dont have skill point left over for a master master class, like the pistoleers (riflemen, carbineers, rangers, commandos, etc)will.

BTW, can you unlearn all of the Scout and Marksmen skills once you become BH?

No, you can't unlearn any skill that is a requirement of a skill you're currently using.

Look guys Im sorry you feel that the BH is broken. I dont have an opinion on it becuase I dont play a BH.

This is the pistoleer board and starting a thread with the title "Nerf the jeezus out of Pistoleer!" does nothing but incite a flame war.

I am lucky to be in two professions that although they have some issues are not broken. I am also lucky that the smuggler community in general is very mature and thoughtfull about the game and each other.

I recommend you try to start some good thoughtfull threads in your forum and stop trying to incite others.

I would like to see some nerfs on pistoleers, they should only be 1/3 as powerful as bounty hunter with just pistoleer status since they have 2/3 more points to spend. I'd like to see their knockdowns increased to 400 or so ham because it only takes half the work to get one vs a BH who spends almost 200. DEVS HEAR ME OUT ON THIS ONE! The top elite class BH was 2nd under jedi... pistoleer NEEDS TO BE NERFED BIG TIME!

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Iebo wrote:
I only did it because the BH threads are FULL of pointless immature threads from pistoleers and I didn't see any BHs posting in THEIR forum..

plus I'm pissed that the devs are chit chatting with thema bout stupid **edit** like twirly gun effects when our class is devastated, unusable, and underpowered

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Here I found some for you.
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=pistoleer&message.id=5837
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=pistoleer&message.id=5689
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=pistoleer&message.id=5676
Yea I know the 3rd one is from a commando, but I got bored after the 3rd page.
Do I think Bh's should be fixed? Hell yes.
Do I think Bh's should be able to kill a pistoleer? Depends really, if you're using pistol then no. Otherwise, yes.
same goes for you vs a carbiner.

Ps nerfing pistoleer will not fix the problems with BH.

fix knockdown to be viable but not overpowered and fix it for everyone who has it that seems to be what this entire thread is based on

the knockdown exploitation ill agree is a valid point but rather than looking for a increase ham cost remove it etc. type of solution how about making it stable 1st then before crying about how broken it is who knows maybe kd will one day be balanced and effective all at once

and as far as the bh vs pistoleer issue is concerned look how much youa ctually get out of each line alotta of speed accuracy and in theory decent styles once they fix them and on the point issue as well honestly how long dos it take to make bh i did it in a week ive seen people do it in less scout and marksmen dont take much to master while an elite profession dos as it stands now i refer to bh as a waste of points why i got rid of it devs need to do some seriouse work on the class maybe humanoid traps etc. make it a general specialized class wiht a few perks aside from the styles to make the class unique and not an imitation pistoleer carbineer kind of thing

the problem is that I could master pistoleer easily in 2 weeks...

BH is unmasterable in it current state

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Iebo wrote:
the problem is that I could master pistoleer easily in 2 weeks...

BH is unmasterable in it current state

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ROFLMAO, I'm sorry, but OMG, are you serious? you can master pistoleer in 2 weeks? You must not have a job/school/life! I've been at it for a while now and man, if you can get it in 2 weeks, your the bomb! I'm not saying it's impossible, I'm sure there might be some Powergamer's out there that are up for the challange, but man, its not that easy, trust me.

then thats specifically a bh issue that needs be addressed on bh boards i doubt there correspondant is allways here to even notice these kind of posts to list them as issues

known facts llc sucks bh needs more utility styles broken these are bh issues and things take time to change complaining about KD being broken nerf it etc. is the incorrect way to go about these things the best way is to adress the issue at hand wiht the appropriate class and work on changing it to soemthing viable and unique not a rip off pistoleer or immitation carbineer or even a more/less gimpy commando(not sure wich has it worse) every class has issues but screaming nerf never gets anything fixxed it just causes more problems

when I hunt with my guild on big game I can easily make 150-200k xp per hour