Pistoleer Archive
Thread: Nerf the jeezus out of Pistoleer!
You're an idiot Iebo.
Newsflash - A pistoleer is a master with a PISTOL. Whereas a BH is more of a jack-of-all trades and is PROFICIENT with ALL weapons.
Who cares about the skill point cost associated? How does Investigations and making Tents make you better in combat? Look at the XP to go up the skill tree. Pistoleer needs a lot more.
If you want to be AWESOME with 1 weapon, then I would suggest Pistoleer, Carbineer, or Rifleman. If you want to be decent with all weapons, go the BH track.
a pistoleer does NOT need master marksman...
only the pistol tree
the reason is that BHs by definition should have tools other than the basic 3 weapons to use against human opponents...
Trapping especially
A pistoleer should be better with a pistol than a BH, but a BH should STILL be a more powerful combatant because he *SHOULD* have other things to throw into the mix...
the problems is that we DO NOT...Pistols are THE GOD WEAPON in this game with no range penalties and uber speed. BHs have NO weapon that compares to pistols other than pistols and no tools to trump the uber-pistoleer...
the only way to make the BH a difficult class to fight against is to increase or pistol effectiveness because doing anything else would require tons more work and the devs aren't going to make those sort of changes any time soon
nor does carbine/rifle abilities make you a better pistoleer, which is what the rest of the marksmen tree is.
Also
BH have 12 boxes of pistol skills
Pistoleers have 23 boxes of pistol skills
and you are telling me that BH should be better at pistols?
BHs should be better at KILLING PCs/NPCs
ok now i understand your looking for a quickfix thats how games get all screwed up was this game ready for launch imo NO but making a change to pistol line making it better etc. disrupts the posible balance bh could have imagine going 3 months with incredible pistol skills etc. as a place filler only to have that taken away it wouldnt be the same class anymore hell look at the combat medic the poisons were bugged and worked for 2 days(exceptionally well) but now there not working again so since cm poisons dont work should we give them a place filler so they have offensive abilities no quickfixes are bad anything worht having takes time
if you really want to be a BH in its current state think you can master it one day and say i was a master bh when the class was gimped
Well I will just end my invovlement in this thread with one last thought
/emote gives Iebo a hanky.
Actually, and i don't know how many of you agree wtih me (I had something to say after page 1 so i just skipped it hehe), but I have seen smugglers with the Dirty fighting line kick the cajones out of a Expert BH in a duel, before and after the huge-nerf-thing-that-sucked/patch.
So now lets analyize this info: If the *nerfherders*, oops typo, *devs* wanted to nerf pistoleer so thata expert bh can beat a master pistoleer, which can happen, seen it a few times btw, then that would mean that a smuggler with the dirty fighting line can beat a Master Gunfighter. Hmmm...I personally think that things should be left the way they are.
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Since I can't find the point of your topic, here's a short reader for you:
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how bout we argue till the sun goes down? BH takes alot more points, masters 2 basic professions, and gives you an extra form of income (bugged atm, but when its fixed...), pistoleers takes 1 line to master, and improves upon the skills you already know, as well as teach you a few more things...
so... you master the 2 professions, you cant really get anything else... and you become good at all forms of combat, as well as gain the ability to hunt down NPCs for a sizeable amount of cash (you dont even need any exp to get going with bounty money atm, just take up novice, find an informant, and you can get 7k per mission)... after this you expect to be the best of the best... be able to kill anyone... true... but false... you can kill anyone in any situation... but if its the particular situation where your target trains in... its gonna be harder... its basically saying that a BH can murder in a carbine duel, a LLC duel, and a pistol duel... but when facing someone who has taken the time to get the exp necessary to be on par with the BH in that pistol or carbine duel, the BH is going to have some problems...
as a BH, with knockdown, i could kill anyone... the first one stuck, and i was golden for the rest of the fight, and i only needed 150,000 carbine exp... in order to get the first ranged pistol knockdown, i believe you need upwards of 1,000,000 pistol exp, and alot of combat... the BH gets skills and modifiers faster then any other class, and they get them in more fields... and this is why it costs so much, and this is why they will always be the best