Pistoleer Archive

Thread: DEV Response to the DE-10 and Pistoleers

Jaspor
Fri May 06, 2005 12:35 am
#40






Bzzzz wrote:


It's a little late to be "tweaking" the potency of the DE-10 now, isn't it?






They've run a few smaller conversions on items that were missed/screwy after the initial big conversion.


I'm sure they'll need at least one more. So they could potentially sneak in a tiny DE-10 boost if they really loved us.







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Nifty
Fri May 06, 2005 12:46 am
#41


the issue again was that powerful weapons already created pre-CU were supposed to be powerful post-CU. Regardless if DE-10's created after the CU are supposed to be equivalent to DX-2's, pre-CU uber DE-10's should still be uber weapons now. That's the problem that needs to be addressed, and I hope it does get addressed without making the post-CU created DE-10's uber compared to the other post-CU created master pistols.



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kneelocked
Sat May 07, 2005 8:23 am
#42

Just want to chime in here in case the devs are looking at this.



My Crafting prof (Armorsmith) allready had all its guts ripped out of it, making it a tedious, un-fun chore.



Now what was my best AND most plentyful gun pre CU is now the 4th best gun in my arsenal. As a part of the CU "Alpha Test" (dont get me started on THAT!) we as well as all those in live were told 'what was a great weapon before the CU will be a great weapon after the CU'. So not the case with the DE-10. I spent ALOT of time and money getting barrels and schematics (yes I did the DWB with just Pistoleer!) with the hope that post CU Pistoleer would be a vialbe profession AND the DE-10 would remain the elite of elite pistols.


Allow us to break them down to get our tissue back at the very lest if it stays this gimped weapon. Its very sad when my non krayt DX2 is better than my DE-10 with +120 tissues.



Also, from what I am hearing, the intimidator pistol is being considered "the best" pistol now. Very high DPS, But how many will take squad leader just to get it?










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PresterJohn
Sun May 08, 2005 5:22 am
#43


PreCU>>> 3 ADKed, very expensive, very sweet, and much worked for pistols that I loved


PostCU>> Garbage. garbage. garbage.... my oneDX2 is now my best weapon..heheheheheehehe


nuff said


dropped pistoleer after 1 year.....grrrr




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aibo220
Sun May 08, 2005 6:14 am
#44

I wish I could drop pistoller.

Really, our professian isn't even there anymore... I feel the downgrade just slumped everything together.

As I said, I'm better off using a so-so carbine than I am using a pistol. Our professian is no longer a professian but rather a collection of specials that are best used with anything but a pistol.

I feel like a fool not giving up pistols.



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RenKesson
Sun May 08, 2005 6:21 am
#45






aibo220 wrote:
I don't like the roots and snares.

As a pistoller they are dangerous to us. In PvP a RM or Carbineer can root us then attack from the distance.

In PvE you're better off rooting and using a carbine or rifle than the pistol. Only time the pistol is useful in PvE is when it's close up combat.


I feel with the downgrade altogether we pistollers got cheated.




Which is why I'm a Pistoleer with SL... E5 certification FTW!



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aibo220
Sun May 08, 2005 6:41 am
#46

Another SL cert gun?

What is it with guns being spread all over place?



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Bhelzebub
Sun May 08, 2005 2:54 pm
#47


"Or, as someone else said in this thread, a timer should be implemented so that a person can not be rooted more than once in half a minute or whatever."



This is a much better solution, they should be immune for as long as the timer currently runs. If root and snare would break on damage, it will just be a useless action drain, action that ill use on a damaging shot instead. And whats the deal with the KD timer? Right now i get up 0.5 seconds after i get KD so remove the KD timer and insert a Root timer





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SlaserX
Sun May 08, 2005 8:08 pm
#48

I agree completely with the DE-10 problem. I'm a MWS, and I've made some decent money off selling good pistols. Now that the DE-10 is getting nerfed so badly, it's really hit me in the pants. I'm not rich by any means... and I had about 10m invested in DE-10 loots including schems, yellow barrels, and tissues to make them. Now I make them, and they always turn out worse than say a DL44 XT, which isabout 100000x easier to make, and has better stats all around. Why bother even making DE-10s? I've lost tons of money as it is on them... I hope they fix them. I dont care what they do with the cert, but I think that given the amount of effort it requires to make one of them, you should be repaid that back with a superb weapon.


Sadly, this is the exact same story as the Scythe. It's worthless post-cu.



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wookiArmor
Mon May 09, 2005 6:26 am
#49


/agree


Don't forget that we are all"Customers" and as a customer i ask for consideration..if dev's thinks that we're all chips they do a mistake.


a such loss of timeand money (IG and IRL) forpistoleers players is unjustified ...why there's no dev's words on it?


It's a shame!!!!!!




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Fytos
Mon May 09, 2005 2:54 pm
#50


My best DE-10 still is adk'd, it's max dam is somewhere arround 760 but it would just hurt too much to destroy it. I have pistols that come close to 1k damage with over 500 dps that i havent used yet but for some reason i can't kill me DE-10 to get my adk back.



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Free-lance, pistol wielding bounty hunter.
Uthyr
Mon May 09, 2005 4:13 pm
#51






Fytos wrote:


My best DE-10 still is adk'd, it's max dam is somewhere arround 760 but it would just hurt too much to destroy it. I have pistols that come close to 1k damage with over 500 dps that i havent used yet but for some reason i can't kill me DE-10 to get my adk back.





I can sympathize, Fytos. I have a DE-10 that was really nice pre-CU, so I ADK'd it, and it's just mediocre now. I have some far better weapons that I'd like to put the ADK on now, but I just can't bring myself to destroy the DE-10 to get the ADK back.



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SpunkyKuma
Mon May 09, 2005 9:30 pm
#52

I'm disappointed that the DE-10 is no longer MPistoleer cert, it was a fine weapon pre-CU and costed several people lots of time and credit (who dared to craft a DE-10 without krayt tissues?). At least my converted DE-10s hold up to about the best high cap scatters at the moment, 880, 884, 886, 941 max but the attack speed got hurt which brought down the DPS.

Quest weapons usable by everyone? What's the deal with proton carbine & rifle being master certs then, there's quite a few loot/quest weaps that need certain boxes.



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