Pistoleer Archive
Thread: Pistoleer FAQ v2.1 (Jan 3rd 2004)
biwan:Okay, the faq says that double-tap is broken, worse than kip-upor roll-shot. I use roll-shot to go kneeling all the time, but I don't see it doing better damage than double-tap. In fact,double-tap seems to do around twice as much damage as bodyshot2.
I haven't really timed it to see if it's slower than bodyshot, but I was ignoringthis specialat first because of the faq, but now I'm using it quite a bit.
Are there disadvantages to using this special?Anyway,double-tap seems far from broken, to me.
Bottom line: I finally had to give up and get the BH pistol tree because I was tired of being owned in PvP. Fan shot is by far the best special, with it you can get about 120k pistol xp per hour just doing Pikets on Dant. (need to use GSP or better pet)
Lemme break that down for aspiring pistoleers:
9 pikets per lair at 2800-3600 xp per
the lair - 4-5k xp
With pet tanking the three that spawn and useing fan shot it'll take about 15 min per mission including time to heal pet.
Our specials, speed and defense are just not good enough to even compete with others in PvP. Standing at 60M and targeting a master rifleman, I missed him 17 times in a row with 4 different specials. He used four Head Shot 3's on me that hit at 800 each(WOW) and db'd with sniper shot. Very frustrating.
jammal1 wrote:
Bottom line: I finally had to give up and get the BH pistol tree because I was tired of being owned in PvP. Fan shot is by far the best special, with it you can get about 120k pistol xp per hour just doing Pikets on Dant. (need to use GSP or better pet)
Lemme break that down for aspiring pistoleers:
9 pikets per lair at 2800-3600 xp per
the lair - 4-5k xp
With pet tanking the three that spawn and useing fan shot it'll take about 15 min per mission including time to heal pet.
Our specials, speed and defense are just not good enough to even compete with others in PvP. Standing at 60M and targeting a master rifleman, I missed him 17 times in a row with 4 different specials. He used four Head Shot 3's on me that hit at 800 each(WOW) and db'd with sniper shot. Very frustrating.
Jammal1
first of all you are out of any pistoleer weapons range. 60m is just not where a pistoleer is supposed to be fighting at. Ok, sure the republic blaster is great at 64m.....but that's the only pistol that's good at any range higher than 20m even with that it's energy based attack is the most defended against type of attack in the game. nearly every PVE and PVP opponent has extremely high resist to energy.
one thing that I want to add to this faq that was overlooked is that def vs **** mods are very useful in limiting specific types of status effects on us....but there is always at least a 10% chance those defenses will fail no matter how high they are. At least this was stated to be the case in PVE.....Sorry that I can't provide the link to this tidbit....I will try and find it again.....I just go through too many post in these forums to remember where each thread is...but the info does stick....
Also, there is no mentionof multi Target pistol shot (unless I missed it)......just wondering about this since yesterday I was attempting to hit my fanshot button in combat but was hitting my multi target pisol shot button by mistake (they are next to each other).......I didn't even notice the difference until I looked at the combat window. it roughly did good damage but not as high as my fanshot does and it hit multiple targets too. just wondering what the verdict is on this special. I never really used it since I've gotten it because I love fanshot too much.......but at first glance it seemed to be fine minus the damage being lower than fanshot.
JohnMarble wrote:
Okay, the faq says that double-tap is broken, worse than kip-upor roll-shot. I use roll-shot to go kneeling all the time, but I don't see it doing better damage than double-tap. In fact,double-tap seems to do around twice as much damage as bodyshot2.
I haven't really timed it to see if it's slower than bodyshot, but I was ignoringthis specialat first because of the faq, but now I'm using it quite a bit.
Are there disadvantages to using this special?Anyway,double-tap seems far from broken, to me.
The FAQ says: "/doubleTap is worse than /kipUpShot and /rollShot even though they are *Marksman* specials". This is based on the state of the profession report written by Philosopher1976, so I can't comment except to say that /doubleTap (being an ELITE special) should be significantly more useful/powerful than a bog-standard special.
As for the comparisons of /doubleTap and /bodyShot2, /bodyShot2 is a Heath specificattack whereas /doubleTap is a random HAM attack. That means that if /doubleTap and /bodyShot2 did the same amount of damage, it would take three times longer to kill something with /doubleTap.
This is all pretty moot for the time being, with the new combat system on its way however, but I hope it helps.
~ N
Shouldnt /disarming shot wreck total havoc on opponents weapons condition? Thus making it useless after some serious blasts?
Being it is the "master pistoleers" speical (/disarm2) why is it utrrerly useless?