Pistoleer Archive

Thread: Make all pistols in game certified by a master pistoleer...

Praecor_Loth
Thu Apr 07, 2005 4:33 am
#40

Having certs for pistols in other professions is great... same for rifles and carbs and whatever else.


Shakes things up a bit and gives players more flexibility in choosing templates.


Sticking them in the Master box may be a tad harsh though... but rewards people that go for master rather than dabble.



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dlc3007
Thu Apr 07, 2005 5:09 am
#41

umm.... this isn't really anything new. There are rifles that Master Rifleman can't use. There are currently pistols in the game that M. Pistoleers can't use.


I'm personally not opposed to this -- as long as each elete profession has unique weapons available to them. That's the whole idea here. Would it make you happier if they just changed the names from "pistol" to "blaster"? That's really all we're talking about here. I think if it looked the same and did the same damage but was named something else, you wouldn't even have this post.



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fishbrains
Thu Apr 07, 2005 6:17 am
#42






Dasch wrote:
We're already crowd control... the bottom of the combat destruction fun. We're not getting duel wielding. Master Pistoleer has no real big rewards. We've already delt with being one of the weakest professions... why not give us a break for once?

Message Edited by Dasch on 04-07-2005 03:24 AM






Really, cause my initial impression is that the crowd controll professions are going to be hated by the ememy in PvP and an total necessity in PvE. From what I have heard of other MMOs the mezzer/CC classes are a b1tch to take down cause they just stop you when you try to get close.




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SpinningCloud
Thu Apr 07, 2005 6:30 am
#43

I'm MP as well as MS and I don't see ANY reason to be able to use every last pistol in the game. I mean WHO uses more than 2 or 3 anyway? I sure don't.


Seeing as how you're not missing anything with greater DPS the only thing you could be complaining about is graphics and a MUCH larger issue than this is how good ole Sony managed to break the custom barrels and scopes and probably won't ever fix them.


Let's all get on their case for THAT and get our nice custome graphics back in the game.




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Dasch
Thu Apr 07, 2005 6:33 am
#44



SpinningCloud wrote:
I'm MP as well as MS and I don't see ANY reason to be able to use every last pistol in the game. I mean WHO uses more than 2 or 3 anyway? I sure don't.
Seeing as how you're not missing anything with greater DPS the only thing you could be complaining about is graphics and a MUCH larger issue than this is how good ole Sony managed to break the custom barrels and scopes and probably won't ever fix them.
Let's all get on their case for THAT and get our nice custome graphics back in the game.





I don't think we should be able to use EVERY pistol. But still, why not offer us a little more of the new content? Everyone seems to be taking everything that I'm saying the wrong way... I think I'm done with these forums.



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fishbrains
Thu Apr 07, 2005 6:35 am
#45






Dasch wrote:
We haven't had any unique weaponms in, oh, two years.



geo blaster....DE-10....




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Dasch
Thu Apr 07, 2005 6:42 am
#46

Notice I said also, unless they are "carppily looted" or incredibly too high priced. Geo and DE-10 both fit those descriptions, mate.



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Seogae
Thu Apr 07, 2005 6:53 am
#47

I think everyone is forgetting that the stats you see on TC are not set in stone, they WILL be adjusted once testing starts for elite professions. Also, there are at least 3 more pistols that we don't know where the cert will be yet, Flare, Jawa Ion & Flechette.

Before getting your panties in a bunch at least test the weapons to see how they work. And I doubt that the SL, Smuggler, CM or any non Pistoleer pistol will be more powerfull than Pistoleer pistol's once adjustments are made. The reason we have TC is so we can get weapons and skills adjusted before they hit live, right now all the elite skills & weapons are in Generic mode, alpha versions even...


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Fidgiter
Thu Apr 07, 2005 7:29 am
#48




Dasch wrote:
Notice I said also, unless they are "carppily looted" or incredibly too high priced. Geo and DE-10 both fit those descriptions, mate.




So basically your saying that except for the ones that were there weren't any. I got a Geo pistol at a very good price (did a little barter with the weaponsmith) back when I was a Master Pistoleer.


Yes, the Pistoleer has had to endure a long time of being a red haired stepchild profession dabbled in for the defenses on occasion. However, the Pistoleer as it has existed is Uber compared to the Squad Leader and Smugglerso I'm not clear on how the trials and tribulations of the Pistoleer can be seen to justify taking away from what is going to the Squad Leader and Smuggler.


In the hands of a Squad Leader who is not also a Pistoleer the Intimidator will be limited. It won't be as fast, it won't be as accurate, it won't have special attacks to be used. Ultimately the Intimidator ISa Pistoleer weapon but in a profession that extends beyond just being a Pistoleer. Taking the pistol away from the Squad Leader is in effect NERFing the synergy between the professions and ultimatley NERFing the Squad Leader/Pistoleer combination.


What is special about these weapons? I don't know yet but from what I've heard there may be abilities tied to the weapon itself. For example: The Squad Leader is rated 3:3:3 but I see nothing about Crowd Control. Maybe that Crowd Control comes from the weapons themselves? Don't know, it's speculation until testing advances futher along.


I intend to be a Master Squad Leader, Master Pistoleer with BH 4040. I accept the fact I won't be able to use the Commando or Smuggler pistol. If I wanted them I'd pick up those professions. My purpose for Master Squad Leader is not to get the Pistol, it is to be a force multiplier. The pistol is icing on the cake and may well be something that makes it comperable to being a Master Pistoleer, Master Carbineer.





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Ipseck
Thu Apr 07, 2005 7:50 am
#49

its not like you don't have the skill points to pick up the certs.. If you want these pistols, take up that profession. None of em are going to be that different from the other for you to care that much about it though imo.





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TheBlacknight15
Thu Apr 07, 2005 9:54 am
#50

Maybe people are missing part of my point... I want to see people with DIFFERENT guns. I hate seeing DX2's and Geo Blasters all over the place. They revamped armor so you can basically get the same stats on any look within that armor class. All recon armors are the same thing with a different look. That is what I want. I want to be able to use SL or Smuggler pistols not for their damage, but because they are NOT the normal DX2 or Geo Blaster!!! And stop saying "pick up the certs" because it is imposible for a pistoleer to be certified for all of the non-commando and non-bountyhunter pistols. As the game stands, it takes 92 extra skill points to pick up the ONE certification for the CM pistol. For someone who just wants to look of the gun, that is expensive as hell. The SL pistol is about the same price. Master Marksman for the DL44 XT or whatever is another 34 skill points again for just one certification.

I am asking for constructive ideas on how we can maybe change how damage is calculated off the gun in order for a pistoleer to use all pistols, rifleman to use all rifles, carbineer use all carbines, etc. for aesthetic value.

Message Edited by TheBlacknight15 on 04-07-2005 01:18 PM



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Nifty
Thu Apr 07, 2005 10:12 am
#51

How is master marksman another 63 points to a Master Pistoleer in the CU? It's another 34 points.





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TheBlacknight15
Thu Apr 07, 2005 10:18 am
#52

Because I am retarted and did not remove the right numbers. Sorry, fix reflected in post.

Message Edited by TheBlacknight15 on 04-07-2005 01:19 PM



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