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Thread: Nerf the jeezus out of Pistoleer!

Iebo
Fri Aug 15, 2003 8:08 pm
#27

nerf != fix =)

KD "nerf" is only a "nerf" because it destroyed the carbine tree for BH, kd itself could have been removed for all I care as long as I was left with a carbine special
tir3llius
Fri Aug 15, 2003 8:13 pm
#28

San, it's painfully obvious that you don't care about anything but the professions you're using. Don't worry, you've made that abundantly clear. All I was trying to do was, as I said, clear up some issues about MY profession. And I am aware that this isn't the right forum for posting BH problems. Trust me, if you take a look in our forums you'll see all you'll ever need to see posted about our problems. The only problem is that we have *yet* to hear ANY official word from anyone about what happened to our profession.


I'm surprised that you could be picked for a correspondent, truthfully. You're rather childish in your arguments and you don't even take the time to listen to anything anyone else has to say.




Lyriel Baenra


~ ( Master Smuggler ) ~
AU-Scorpion
Fri Aug 15, 2003 8:14 pm
#29






Iebo wrote:
AU, sucking at 3 weapons does not balance with being awesome at 1! =)





Hey, it beats only having one weapon,andthat weaponhas suicidal tendancies. (Yes, I'm shameless)


But seriously, pistoleers are supposed to be really good with the pistol, I mean... if you take it away from them, they aren't an elite pistol profession. So that's not an option.


If this is the case the devs should take a look at the balance between the elite ranged weapons and their trademark abilities. Then take that into account when looking atthe bounty hunter's balance.


If you're decent with enough things you shouldeventuallyfind something that will work, then all will be right with the world and people will hatebounty hunters.After all, they are the guys who bring knives to a fist fight, andstore aCDEF in their boot, just in case the other guy is a TKA. *boggle*






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wigger
Fri Aug 15, 2003 8:16 pm
#30

OK so tell me this pistoleers.... why do you think you should be equal with BH? sooooooo much less time going into pistoleer, not to mention the HUGE gap of skill points... you guys just got lucky you you picked up a class that the devs have a homosexual attraction to (CH are in the same boat) but im sure i wont hate you guys so much when the devs nerf yo asses, and if they dont, ill be joining your ranks. thanks for bitching so much that the BH's got nerfed, but what goes around comes around, so enjoy being able to kill us while you can.
Streetracer81
Fri Aug 15, 2003 8:33 pm
#31

wig go back to BH board. Sorry thats best I can do, there is no TROLL board here yet for special people like you.
Bastermaster
Fri Aug 15, 2003 8:35 pm
#32

To you BH's.

Yes, you should be good in combat. When/If your weapons trees are fixed, i'm sure you will be. There are some things in pistoleer that need to be fixed, but from what you BHes are saying it seems that pistoleer should be nerfed because when we master we're good with one weapon? I dont agree. If BHes, when fixed can do good with three weapons, and use all three effectively, then they should be able to compete with a Master in any weapon. As to the skill point issue... that means nothing. you guys have to be good with weapons AND the ability to search out your quarry. A elite weapons profession only needs to be good with the weapon they choose to use. Giving them the ability to branch out to other professions. To the person that started this very lame thread. Stop complaining.

Flame me all you want, see if i care, i prolly wont even check this thread ever again.


Best Regards,

Ecisshot
Wookiee
Flurry
Pistoleer(0,0,3,2)/Doctor(1,0,0,1)



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-Ize Ikro--Proud Member of Crimson Sky Empire and the Imperial Inquisition.
TKM, MD, Imperial Pilot 3222.
Aleshre
Fri Aug 15, 2003 9:00 pm
#33

I read here and there, so if I get ripped for saying "I already said that," I really don't care.


1)The fact that this thread was started in the pistoleer forum by someone upset with the BH line is rediculous. This has, however, been accepted by the poster.


2) Instead of pulling other professions down to meet your level of character, why not simply call for fixes to the BH line? Otherwise it comes off as profession envy.


3) Is it just me, or are claims that CM + Pistoleer are uber kind of silly? I'm a pistoleer CM, not mastered in either, but I keep myself alive with master medic stim D's. Nothing related to the CM line goes into my abilities, the only thing CM lets you do is better heal your allies. That's kind of the point of the profession. Maybe a pistoleer/doctor would be a better argument, but that's just the ramblings of a CM.





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Alesh're Felher

Combat Medic and...a dash of everything
crazyrobo
Fri Aug 15, 2003 9:28 pm
#34

Why did you people even become a bounty hunter? Because you like living in the forests most of the time, alone, or you obviously love using all those weapons at your disposal?

Let's say you take my pistols away from me. Which weapons should I choose? My left fist, or my right fist? Let's take away your pistols, which weapons shall you use? Laser carbine, laser rifle, EE3, E11, Scatter Pistol, basically everything else?

Seriously, instead of whining here, why don't you go to the BH forum and actually suggest that they fix your profession instead of belittling all the other ones. If you can't do you missions, why don't you ask your correspondant to ask the devs to fix it? Why don't you ask them to fix your skill tree?

We're just lucky because most of our skills actually work, well not what they're intended to, but they actually help us fight, and that's why we now want more fancy stuff, I mean, how is a holster going to make us better? Nothing, but since we don't have completely useless trees (most at least) what's the harm of asking for some extra stuff?
SanTsu
Fri Aug 15, 2003 9:29 pm
#35

tir3llius


Have you looked at the title of this post. That is not the title of a pistoleers what do you think of Bounty hunters problems type of thread its the title of a I want to be uber at your expense type thread.


Why you think I should bother giving this kind of thread anything except my contemp is beyond me. Why you think I need to be your confessor or some how rise above it all becuase Im a correspondant is also beyond my understanding. My job as a correspondant is to collect the issues related to my profession and try to put them in an organized fashion and mail them to SOE. I like to think I do that as well. As for crying nerf well Go home.




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The First Smuggler Correspondent (retired)
Johny Longshoot
Master Smuggler/ Master Gunfighter/ Teras Kasi Master
Who needs hokey religions and ancient weapons just give me something to smuggle.
Aleshre
Fri Aug 15, 2003 9:34 pm
#36

Well, SanTsu, with the title "correspondent," you display a connection to Sony that's closer than the body of players. Therefore, we hope that you're competent enough to represent us when we have issues and help expedite the overall process of bug fixing.


Regardless of how well you are doing your job or not, you represent Sony to a degree, so your actions are weighed heavier than regular posters, and when you troll/flame/use bad grammar or bad punctuation etc, you give the impression of being lower calibre than you should be.


I.E. read posts made by mods or devs. They always come across in a curteous (or at least non-judgemental) manner and manage to form coherent, punctuated sentences that don't come across as rambling lines of thought.




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Alesh're Felher

Combat Medic and...a dash of everything
Melt304
Fri Aug 15, 2003 9:42 pm
#37

What I find ironic about those protecting pistoleers is that the same thing happened on the bh boards before we got adjusted. Pistoleers came over there and went to the swg discussion forum crying nerf on us. Well, the true bounty hunters took offense to it and quite honestly if a nerf swings your direction dont be surprised. It is well warrented. And before you all say i lost to pistoleers and such. Yes i have and i have beaten many too, Its not a matter of dueling and such. Its a matter of principle. You guys got the bat swinging at us and well some of the bounty hunters feel obliged to return the favor.



I will now go back and patch up the cries on the bounty hunter forum, Thank You;








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FuneralDress
Fri Aug 15, 2003 9:44 pm
#38

This was the wrong place for this post, and it's a futile attempt for attention....though I can understand it being a Bounty Hunter.


The real problem isn't with pistoleer or any other profession which is why it's futile. Not sure if Pistoleers or any other "working" profession work as desired by the developers by watching the future patches.


The real problem with Bounty Hunters as some of the Beta testers know is that up until the week or two of beta, the bounty hunter had zero combat skills ( 3 lines of droid skills and the investigation line). This is why the profession is broke One server had a character wipe, so that left only one server to test the drastic changes on.


I won't say it's entirely wrong to cry nerf to a profession to bring it in line with other professions, since I've played way too many MMORPG's not to say that some professions can be overpowered or one profession is seriously underpowered. I don't think Pistoleers require a nerf, but some of the professions do need to be brought in line with other professions that do work.


If the developers actually responded to any Bounty Hunter issues you might not have some of them invade other boards, hoping they'll be heard somewhere. I'm actually surprised they haven't invaded the artisan forums yet. Now I could be wrong, but something like this attempt for attention isn't going to get the attention of the developers to fix BH issues which have been entirely ignored. It'll just make the profession look bad as a whole to the developers and the community.


There is a lot of frustration that is being misplaced and should be re-foccussed on the producers which caused this mess by not having what I would consider a proper"balancing" phase in beta and releasing a game with professions that are incomplete and not tested completely.





SanTsu
Fri Aug 15, 2003 9:52 pm
#39

I'm really not interested in what you think of me, my writing, or my opinions. I am not paid by sony I am just a player who sends them an e-mail. I am so tired of this I need to be above it all crap.You think thats what a correspondants job is good when your a correspondent then you act that way. I am not going to hold back what I say becuase you want me to be something else. You can call me names and insinuate anything you like but in the end its all just noise my friend.


I really do care about thesmuggler and pistoleerprofessions but in the end this is just a game. I feel no compunction to kiss your or anyones butt becuase I was given the chance to send a few e-mails to SOE. I like to think I have learned the game fast and that I can be a help to peoplebut I also think I can share my views without the fear that Im hurting sony becuase believe me no matter whatthey are going to be fine.


So I will continue to call a troll a troll and when I'm no longer correspondent I will do it witha lite blue name tag.




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The First Smuggler Correspondent (retired)
Johny Longshoot
Master Smuggler/ Master Gunfighter/ Teras Kasi Master
Who needs hokey religions and ancient weapons just give me something to smuggle.
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