Pistoleer Archive

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Jaster_M wrote:

Atleast your honest and not trying to sugar coat the way you feel about what were being made into like i'm sure others may be doing. What I wanna know is wht Dev thought it would be funny to make us "Lords of the Debuff.". I think having 80% of our specials broke for this long was bad enough...but honestly, I'd take the old way over what I saw lastnight while playing for 3 hours. I dont doubt in the least that you've been Vocal LordMaxx. I do believe that the Devs are gonna make the game into whatever they want it to be...reguardless of how the players feel.

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I asked repeatedly to talk with whomever is in charge of the vision for the pistoleers, and to see this vision so that I might have a full understanding of what they have in mind...Ive gotten no replies in the pistoleer thread... They obviously know exactly what they want to make us...I would just like to have a better idea of what that is so that I can convey that to you, and you can decide if pistoleer is what you want to play.

Maxx Wolfe
"I...I...I...I...Im not your steppin' stone!" - The Monkees
Leader of Team Desert Eagle and Founder of PATGWNIWNU a offshoot of RATGWNIWNU!
Chilastra/Valcyn/TC

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aMeRiKa wrote:

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Jaster_M wrote:
From what I see of Pistoleer now...we are going to be a useless profession outside of a group. Pistoleer has become a totall support role at this point, and is best paired with something like Doctor, Medic, SL, or some other NON-COMBAT prof that needs some ability when the poop gets thick.

It really feels like the Pistoleers have become the b@stard children of ranged professions now. I've been holding my pistol since release, but it seriously makes me want to rethink that when were going to be made into role that would better serve a profession like SL...who SHOULD BE THE GROUP SUPPORT PROFESSION!

The Dev's are really shellin out the love and explination on the commando boards. Why dont we get a little explination from em to?

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You sir, are not to bright.

EVERY PROFESSION IN THE GAME IS GETTING NERFED.

EVERYONE IS GETTING THE SH1T END OF THE STICK.

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That may be, but the profession that concerns me is the one I play and have been playing since BETA. I guess if I were a Jedi...I'd be worried about saber block or something like that and posting it there. However this is where Pistoleers post, and damn if I'm not gonna tell em what I think about the changes to MY profession.

Message Edited by David665 on 04-01-2005 03:15 PM

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Jaster_M wrote:

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aMeRiKa wrote:

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Jaster_M wrote:
From what I see of Pistoleer now...we are going to be a useless profession outside of a group. Pistoleer has become a totall support role at this point, and is best paired with something like Doctor, Medic, SL, or some other NON-COMBAT prof that needs some ability when the poop gets thick.

It really feels like the Pistoleers have become the b@stard children of ranged professions now. I've been holding my pistol since release, but it seriously makes me want to rethink that when were going to be made into role that would better serve a profession like SL...who SHOULD BE THE GROUP SUPPORT PROFESSION!

The Dev's are really shellin out the love and explination on the commando boards. Why dont we get a little explination from em to?

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You sir, are not to bright.

EVERY PROFESSION IN THE GAME IS GETTING NERFED.

EVERYONE IS GETTING THE SH1T END OF THE STICK.

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That may be, but the profession that concerns me is the one I play and have been playing since BETA. I guess if I were a Jedi...I'd be worried about saber block or something like that and posting it there. However this is where Pistoleers post, and damn if I'm not gonna tell em what I think about the changes to MY profession.

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You can tell em all you want about your profession, but the fact remains that you don't know jack crap about your profession post-curb so you're just talking out your ass.

None of us know enough about anything to make the kind of claims that are made in this thread, much less those folks who have only been exposed to the material for less than 24 hours.

Message Edited by superdude201 on 04-01-2005 09:26 PM

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fishbrains wrote:

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JerethBane wrote:

In other words, YOU CAVED.

Seriously, as it stands right now Lord Maxx, it looks like you went in there to represent the triple masters, the BH Pistoleers, the All Star Guys and forgot your job.

We can be mollified, but we will be needing some DETAILS. The NDA is gone, don't act like a dev.

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The NDA is still in effect. You need to get over yourself. You don't know jack as far as the pistol team 'caving'. FYI they did not. You need to calm the hell down and stop acting like you're 6.

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You can tell em all you want about your profession, but the fact remains that you don't know jack crap about your profession post-curb so you're just talking out your ass.

None of us know enough about anything to make the kind of claims that are made in this thread, much less those folks who have only been exposed to the material for less than 24 hours.

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have you played on TC or TC5 yet? I have. For a few hours actually. I've seen the trees, the skils, and the certs. We even have our own Corospondant saying that he isnt very happy with what he sees as the pistoleer profession THUS FAR. If your concerned about YOUR profession, you need to really take a good hard look at what it is RIGHT NOW ON TC & TC5. Because if you dont, or your not vocal about whats good and bad, then POST CU your gonna be cryin about how it turned out bad for you. You'll have nobody to blame but your own self.

I'm passionate about playing MY profession, and the way it looks currently (and since nobody has played an elite prof yet on TC...its gonna start the way it looks right now.) is not something I feel i'll want to play if its still lookin that way post CU.

So yeah...thats me talkin out my ass for ya.

1. He or she does this job for free


2. He or she is not a developer and has no affect on the outcome of the game


3. He or she plays the game as this profession and are most likely as P"£$ed as you.


4. He or she can only pass information between you and the devs when told to.

I really don't know what you were expecting from the CURB but i've always seen pistoleer, carbineer and rifleman as an add on profession. I look at your profession rather like a salad, its fantastic with something else but a pretty crappy meal on its own. From what was posted a month ago you all knew you would have to master two combat professions to be viable in combat and most pistoleers now are double or triple masters.

After the CURB you will have working specials and a purpose, that has to be better than what you are now.

By the way I am a master pistoleer but only after master BH's requirements were reduced.

And He or She isnt a lacky for the devs. Yes I admit, I was not happy to see what they made of our profession BUT (imagine underline italics and bold all at once with flashing neon red) I will not render a final judgement until I have played pistoleer thouroughly on test center...yes the bug in there gives us all the specials...but that doesnt reflect all the other bonuses you will get as a pistoleer. AND the weapons that they give out on the frog are most likely NOT indicative of what our crafters will be making, or what our weapons will be transformed in to.

So I invite every single person in this thread to get on TC and grind out that pistoleer prof, just to see how it feels to be that young again, or wait until the frogs give full functionality and get on there. But please do not make definite assertions until you have seen what truly has become of our profession. I may whine and moan myself during this process. But I am humnan and it only shows how passionate I am about this profession.

Give it a shot before you cast it off. And if you do want to give it up. Go to carbineer Firehawk and I are friends and we secretly want to take down rifleman...whoops was that out loud?

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superdude201 wrote:

hmm the only thing i've noticed is all the new pistols (im unsure about thestats of the republic blaster)which you recieve at master (at the different professions e.g. Pistoleer, smuggler, combat medic)all seem to have exactlythe same stats (e.g. de-10, Renegade, Alliance Disrupter etc). Which means they are all the same gun, but look different (unless each one does different damge types).

Message Edited by superdude201 on 04-01-2005 09:26 PM

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I'll say it again (and it should REALLY be stickied):

The weapons in the frogs ARE NOT indicative of the final product!!

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LordMaxx wrote:

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JerethBane wrote:

Oy...I need to post a sticky thread on this. Guys..All of those OLD pistols that you NEVER used are basically new pistols. You may actually want to wait and see how those turn out. Yes we like flashy new artwork, and "twirly moves" is somehow in our want list. But wait until you actually see if those 6 or so pistols we NEVER used actually turn out worth something before saying we didnt get anything new like those other guys.

In other words, YOU CAVED.

Seriously, as it stands right now Lord Maxx, it looks like you went in there to represent the triple masters, the BH Pistoleers, the All Star Guys and forgot your job.

We can be mollified, but we will be needing some DETAILS. The NDA is gone, don't act like a dev.

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Im only going to say this once to you and this board...maybe Ill make it a main post. I have done everything in my power to see that pistoleers are given their fair share...if you want new weapons then maybe they should have switched the artwork around and renamed those weapons. Saying I havent tried without knowing what I have done or TRIED to do for the pistoleers is about an ignorant statement as you can make. If you think I failed you. big deal I know there will be people who dont like the change of our role in combat. To tell you the truth I dont like being a debuffer, but there ya go, thats what we are. If you wanted to come out of CU wielding pistols as big as rifles (in damage and size) then just go be a rifleman. I tell you some of them arent happy with their situation either.

In the end YOU, ME, Joe Schmoe Pistoleer have NO say in what becomes of our profession. If you think you know what you wanted, and you didnt get it...sorry. I did try and I argued for us as a profession. I dont want us to be a stepping stone for BH, Smuggler, SL or Commando. Did I post, and repost and bump and Plead the devs to listen YES I did. I know what many of you want, a God with a Pistol that can daringly duke it out with stormtroopers holding e11 carbines and rifles...well we will be the tricksters, the ones who mess up the others plans, meanwhile sapping their life away with targeted health shots. If you dont like that roll here you go.

As for BHs...I dont give 2 squats about them. I personally have felt they have had much more than pistoleers have had for too long Id rather have seen BHs wanting to take Pistoleer because THEY wanted the bonuses...not pistoleers HAVING to take BH so they can actually compete...and Now I fear it is all the same.

Take your whining to the TC, show the devs whether or not our profession is playable...Ill be there trying to make sure when groups are formed we are only brought on if they have room. And that soloing as a pistoleer is not dead.

You can just sit back and think about what you know and make assumptions that only make YOU look bad.

Message Edited by LordMaxx on 04-01-2005 09:44 AM

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DAAYUM LordMaxx just got buck on you.

I can officially say that you are my favorite corrospondent now. That post was the single BEST correspondent post EVER. Your role puts you in a hard position. You get the blame for things you had zero control over, and you didnt just sit there and take it like so many others. I respect you and agree with what you typed 100%.