Pistoleer Archive
Thread: Master Pistol...all pistols surely?????
I could see you point if I was asking for a FH or LLC or a laser crab but I am not.
All I want is at master pistoleer to use all the pistols and I dont see how I am asking for something for nothing I mastered the skill of pistols tell me why as a master I cant you all the pistols. Just tell me and I will give it up.
IrishWolf wrote:
Hi Guys, let me know your thoughts on this.... I have read the forums and excuse me if i have missed this post before...
I am master pistoleer, and i agree that if you are master why the hell can you not use all pistols...for example.. i love the scatter pistol and why cant master pistoleer use the scatter PISTOL ????
does anyone else notice this or should i be contempt using my pre nerfed FWG5.......??
Please post opinion , would be appreciated if i wasnt the only one.....
Good Luck
Irish
E C L P I S E
Look this is it this is the last time I will say it.
is a scatter pistol a pistol yes it is.
is a launcher pistol a pistol yes it is.
Is a master pistoleer a master of pistols yes they are supposed to be.
There for why as a master of pistols can I not use them all.
THANK YOU.
TarannisBane wrote:
Look this is it this is the last time I will say it.
is a scatter pistol a pistol yes it is.
is a launcher pistol a pistol yes it is.
Is a master pistoleer a master of pistols yes they are supposed to be.
There for why as a master of pistols can I not use them all.
THANK YOU.
/sigh
Because the game says you can't. Get over it. Chalk it up to one of life's great mysteries, like Easter Island or the Bermuda Triangle, or how they get the filling inside of a Twinkie. It doesn't matter. Even if you know the answer to any of the above, it still does not matter. We have much bigger fish to fry. This is the kind of discussion that can go nowhere. Peace.
TarannisBane wrote:
Pistoleer is the only class that cant use all the weapons that there name sake should grant them.
that is incorrect. LLC is a Heavy weapon that Commandoes can't use.
And I really don't understand why you pistoleers are so hard up for an AP1 acid weapon that on average has like 2.2 speed and 15o max damage?
mafiree wrote:
Lets do some math
Master pistoller takes 92 skill points
Novice BH takes 160 skill points
See why BH's getthe scatter
No. Why is the hybrid better than the elite?
"Thats it I dont care about the LLC if you read the ost you would see I explained that a commando has a better version on the LLC and that makes it pointless to have the commando use it."
The LBC is better than the LLC? It's a limited use weapon and has no specials, just a few mods. I've never seen a commando use anything from that heavy weapons tree. Ever. BH's use LLC's all the time.
And if the Commando's is better, that makes up for it completely? It doesn't matter that commandos, whose xp is 3/4 heavy weapons, don't get the LLC, simply because they have something better. Okay, so pistoleers get the Geo pistol, which is better, so the BH's can have their scatter. It doesn't matter anymore right?
"Why is the hybrid better than the elite?"
Well, hybrids take more skill points generally, and in the case of Pistoleer vs BH, there is no question. I actually won't mention the skill points, since they are what you responded to (how you could possibly think this after reading that is beyond me, but whatever). A the BH prereqs encompass the pistoleer prereqs (or should I say, prereq). They have to do way more, and as a reward, they get their own special pistol. Terror of terrors! The world will collapse now. They worked harder for one weapon pistoleers don't get. How unfair.
But the argument will always resurface: "Master Pistoleer should use all pistols." Let's ignore for the time being that Bounty Hunters work much harder for what they get and surely deserve something of their own, and that there is no one stopping you from mastering scout and Marksman and getting an extra 40000 combat XP to get one yourself. Forget all that.
In real life there are "Doctors." Some are specialised. Just because someone is as good a surgeon as possible, doesn't mean he's as good as a pediatrist the pediatrist's field. Fortunately, SWG has no "foot fungus" system so It's just doctor, but there are still the specialised combatants, BHs. A Master Pistoleer is highly trained in the general use of all pistols. If they really were a MASTER Master Pistoleer, as in fully trained in all pistol everything, they would be able to target more than just the health pool, they could shoot the foot, the knee, the eye (yes that was a reference to eyeshot, the BH pistol skill that Pistoleers don't complain about not having as much), but a Master pistoleer isn't all that. They should probably just changeMaster to "Person who is really really good at" for all proffessions.
Think about this: A Master pistoleer is Master of pistols, supposedly. If you Master pistoleer, then get 0/0/4/0 BH, you are better with pistols, right? Of course. So if it's possible to be better with pistols than a Master Pistoleer, then you can conclude one of two things: 1) No one else should get any pistol skills that pistoleers don't have so no one could be better (fix being remove all pistol skill mods, specials and weapon certs from other profs or give them all to pistoleers). or 2) Master doesn't really mean MASTER (solution being either rename Master to something stupid, or get it through your thick skull that it doesn't mean true, full on master).
What do they have to do? Rename the Scatter Pistol to Scatter BountyHunterOnlyWeapon and make the BountyHunterOnlyWeapon tree cost BountyHunterOnlyWeapon XP? Would that make you shut up?
JawaJoey2 wrote:
No, pistoleers shouldn't get the scatter of launcher pistols. I've made his arguement before, and I'm never doing it again.
mafiree wrote:
Lets do some math
Master pistoller takes 92 skill points
Novice BH takes 160 skill points
See why BH's getthe scatter
Thats it I dont care about the LLC if you read the ost you would see I explained that a commando has a better version on the LLC and that makes it pointless to have the commando use it.
You're really showing your ignorance right now. Depedning in the situation, the LLC is a better weapon than the FT since it does Electricity damage and has AP1.
I'm not even going to bother trying to explain it any more. If you can't understand why the LP is considered a heavy weapon and not a pistol then you're hopeless.