Pistoleer Archive
Thread: Master Pistol...all pistols surely?????
"I'm not even going to bother trying to explain it any more. If you can't understand why the LP is considered a heavy weapon and not a pistol then you're hopeless."
it really doesnt need much explaining, a pistol is a pistol, if werent a pistol why does it contain pistol withen its name?
havent u ever heard of heavy duty handguns?, which by the way is still under pistols.
and speaking of being ignorant, how come alot of people here are simply ignoring the key word here?,i mean really, its a dead give away, Luancher "Pistol", doesnt matter if its a heavy weapon, who says pistoleers dont have heavy weapons of there own anyway?
mafiree wrote:
Lets do some math
Master pistoller takes 92 skill points
Novice BH takes 160 skill points
See why BH's getthe scatter
Actually that is an incorrect statement... BH use 56 points on pistols... pistoleers use 92. We pistoleers use 60.9% more skills points than a Bounty Hunter does on pistols.
sorry i dont iq over 2, so could u be more specific with mundanes like me, who is wrong?
i just think its kinda silly we dont have any heavy weapons, no one ever said we wouldnt
Its not the AP or the damage its the point that there are PISTOLS regaurdless of what xp they yeild that are in this game. And as a MASTER PISTOLEER I cant use them.
Thats it I dont care about the LLC if you read the ost you would see I explained that a commando has a better version on the LLC and that makes it pointless to have the commando use it.
And on top of all your points about about the heavy weapons are pointless so stop the FH the LLC the Acid rifle are all special weapons and there for have no set class at the scatter PISTOL and launcher PISTOL do.
If you want to have pistoleers stop asking why they cant use all the psitols in the game change the ones they cant use to the special weapons catagory and be done with it. Or let use use all the pistols as our name of MASTER PISTOLEER implies.
RazaelDemron wrote:
The Scatter pistol is technically not a pistol, just like the launcher pistol. The Scatter Pistol is a one handed shotgun. The launcher pistol is a heavy weapon. That being said, seeing as they are a very unique type of "pistol" they require special training in order to utilize. A Master Pistoleer is not a master of pistols, he is a master of standard pistol techniques, which means the usage of pistols. But, as I said the launcher and scatter are special pistols and as such they require special training to utilize. Pistoleer does not cover that special training.
I would have to disagree with this statement. I think pistoleers are meant to be the top of the pile when it comes to small concealable arms. Only someone dedicated to a "fighting form" as it is presented in this game, would have the desire or knowledge to know how to successfully operate a weapon like a launcher pistol.
However, i dont feel that we have to know every last pistol out there either. In all honestly I feel that weapon certifications should be a completely seperate mechanic from skill. I think that people should have to or be able to find special trainers to train them in the use of a weapon. Doesnt mean that they could do a lot other than pull the trigger unless trained in how to use it. So no damage penalties for not have a cert, but no accuracy modifiers or speed modifiers or anything else to go along with it. But thats just me. I could definitly see some pistol obsessed rodian pulling some hellacious contraption that could only be a pistol out of a satchel, with full intentions of using a device that is almost certainly unsafe to fire.... just because he loves pistols a little too much.... like most of us (dedicated pistoleers)
TarannisBane wrote:
Who asked for something for nothing I mastered pistoleer why cant I use all the pistols. And no I didnt contradic myself I was pointing out that I have posted this same ? b4 and if you had read this post you would have seen what I said was these are the respones I have resived when pointing ou tthat we as psitoleers are they only class that cant use all the weapons its name sake should grant .
But I guess the flame was more important then what your burned.
No all I am saying is as a master of pistols I canty use all the pistols in the game thats it.
and yes I know the launcher PISTOL gives heavy weapon xp ?????? thats kinda beyond me too a one handed PISTOL is heavy apperently the gravity is much higher in the SWG then here on earth.
See the thing is that yes a commando should have use of all heavy weapons but the only one they cant the LLC a commando has a better version so why would they want too.
And I hear it already but the scatter is an ap1 acid just like the dx2. Yes your right but the scatter is a better weapon on its own it has better speed and nicer damge range. So as a MASTER OF PISTOLSI want to use the best pistol I can and to tell me ohhhhh no you need to master scout and marksman which mind you has 4 boxs worth of the most worthless pistol skills to gain one of the best postols or to say well ok do unarmed 4 then master marksman which again 4 boxs of pistols with wortless skills to get a launcher PISTOL is not right. I dont care how you cut it color it or sell it crap stinks and this is crap.
Someone who spends all there time using pistols and spending a large amount of SP to do it should be a real Master. To be a master is to be the best and use the best as a master pistoleer we are given at best cheep immataions of the best.
i'm not flaming you.... i'm just saying you're asking something for nothing
if all of a sudden master pistoleers get the scatter (which is NOT better than the current dx2, you're lying to yourself) or the launcher (the only reason to get this is access to blast dmg type, fwg5's are just as good), then we should give all of our pistols to commandos and bounty hunters
the geo pistol, the republicblaster, the new de-10 firefly, the dx2...... yah that's 4 pistols
bounty hunters get TWO guns total
my main point is basically quit whining and deal with it..... people invested a lot of skill points to be able to use these weapons and if you REALLY want them, then do the same