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Kevie

Sun Sep 12, 2004 11:28 pm

MCPrimetime wrote:

Agreed, this is the best combo now. For some weird ass bug reason...jedi seem to have trouble blocking launcher pistols as well.

as it should be

i don't care how awesome your glowy stick is, it shouldn't be able to block a missle

Message Edited by Kevie on 09-13-2004 02:28 AM

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ShiOt

Mon Sep 13, 2004 1:30 am

#28

Only part of pistols worth training is 0041. With this and the Bounty Pistol line you cap speed on every possible Pistol. The accuracy line of pistol is made up for with BH accuracy as well.. plus the addition of +25 SEA's to Pistol Accuracy, Pistol Accuracywhile moving, and Pistol Accuracy whilst standing. The Dodge part of Pistol can be made up in the Fencer lines... which also add very valuable defense vs state effects and Melee Mitigation. I know yousaid you didn't want to hear about stacking.. but if your talking about winning.. then stacking is a pre-requisite.

Best PvP Pistol template

Master Fencer

Pistol 0041

BH 0040

My template

Fencer 4440

Pistol 0041

BH 3044

My template is based more around the fact that I hunt Jedi. The LLC is trained up so I can use my Exceptional LLC. Speed 1.2 Mind Poison Str 749 Dur 490 Potency 280% -1 uses.

The simple fact is that Pistol skills don't need to be trained very high to max out their effeciency. Therefore.. a stacking Template will always be the best Pistol template.

I think your template sounds really cool. And im sure you do well with it. I was thinking of training up Novice Commando for the Launcher pistol too.

However, the Smuggler moves in PvP are pretty much useless. Better off spamming Torso shot than Last Ditch as the Fire DoT Stacks and does more pure damage.. especially when facing a stacking Fencer who is a pain in the ass to hit. Or an Evil Jedi ><

Low Blow and Feign Death.. never done anything to me on the PvP feild.

Like I said before... training up Master Pistoleer is a waste of skill points as the majority of stats given are useless, not very helpful, or can be obtained in other Proffessions.

Your comment about tradingDefense for Accuracyand that you can cancel out the Dodge with superior accuracy is incorrect (especially if you meet a MLS Jedi with 85% SB.. Accuracy does little or nothing to this equation). I could go into the specifics now, but I don't really care to take the time. Put simply.. no amount of damage you could produce would kill me (someone with defense stacking) before I killed you (someone with less than half the defense). You can believe me or not on this one.

You would never own me with your current Template (unless you have some sort of superior DoT weapon). That's not a shot at you.. just the simple facts. Maybe one day Sony will make it so people who specialize in specific proffessions (that don't include LightSabers) can get some major bonuses for Mastering their trade.

I'm not holding my breath.

Solex <Currently playing CoH... because SWG doens't even work>

Smooth Remington

Master Weaponsmith / Master Businessfish

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The_Wraithblade_TDB

Mon Sep 13, 2004 1:41 am

#29

Currently,

0-0-4-0 BH, 0-0-4-1 Pistoleer, 0-0-4-0 Smuggler, 4-0-0-4 TKA, Force Melee Defense, and Force Luck with 8 SP's to spare...it seems to work well, PVE and PVP

Bryced

Mon Sep 13, 2004 2:42 am

#30

wish you were on Corbantis Solax,,,,because i would own you. If you have some crazy Doted bh weapon thats another story. but just straight up pistols you would lose every time. I have had both templates so i know this for a fact. Defensive stacking templates are good,,,but will lose against Last ditch,,,just a simple fact. Its just too powerful of a special to give up. Also,,,you cant use the De10. I know your template is geared toward killing jedi but have you tried a DE10? They are jedi killers. Also,,,Launcher pistol is like the 2nd best against jedi and you have neither.

Also,,,not sure if i understand your point about accuracy/dodge. Are you saying there is no relation to the two of them?

Lets say Rebel x has 100 dodge,,,imp Y has 100 accuracy,,,imp Z has 150 accuracy. IMp Z will hit more than Y given they are using weapon correctly staying within the optimum range. Thats all im saying. Dodge and accuracy have a dirrect correllation.. Dodge stackers will be hit more often by people with crazy accuracy.

If you have additional info on this please post some. I didnt mean to imply more than this.

Ty for post,,,keep it coming.

oh yeah,,,in response to the other post,,,,because of this lousy force sensitive stuff,,,i dont have skill points for novice medic unless i drop bh completly.

Bryce

Bryce - Jedi
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Natures-Ranger

Mon Sep 13, 2004 7:46 am

#31

I was having fun with this template in TC-Ahazi yesterday since its always been my favorite Pistol template, and i won 38 of my 41 duals

Against anyone.. Fencers, TKMs, Swordsmen, Riflemen.. Any defence stacker! Since TC-Ahazi is a copy of Ahazi i already had my character there with my AA´s, CA´s, Food, Drick, Weapons! Sure made my day, never won so many duals since before the weapon switch delay!

Only diffrance i have is Nov Brawler for Intimidate it works wonders against people, cuts damamge by at least 50%

Bipolo "Stalker" Naefae

Retired Master Bounty Hunter & Mandalorian Mercenary
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Veins that pump with fear, sucking darkest clear. Leading on your deaths construction! "
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DoctorGriggs

Mon Sep 13, 2004 7:52 am

#32

MCPrimetime wrote:
Agreed, this is the best combo now. For some weird ass bug reason...jedi seem to have trouble blocking launcher pistols as well.

Yeah MCPrimetime I noticed this as well. We did some testing and it seemed that master lightsaber which normally has 85 block was only blocking launcher pistol half the time. Not sure if it is a bug, or if it was intended because the very description of a launcher pistol makes me think it would be hard to block.

Griggs - Undead Priest
Co-Leader of the Unholy Legion - Kalecgos

ThiV

Mon Sep 13, 2004 11:20 am

#33

MGunfighter / Tkm / Rogue / Slicing I / Fencer 3200

Tkm Is a Must For PVE , Rogue For Specials , Slicing Terminals + Atst Group For 55k Missions , Fencer For stacks

Kthx

Xarche

Mon Sep 13, 2004 11:59 am

#34

The novice commando box is overrated. The LP is just not that significant of a weapon anymore. I would much rather have power hammer swordsmen banging at the turrents these days then a commando taking a week to lower down the super high rated turrents.

Exarch
Master Smuggler
[IS]Ignis Sanctus
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Ubesane

Mon Sep 13, 2004 1:29 pm

#35

MujtahiD wrote:

Ubesane wrote:

well...after some crunching..I think I can one up you....not to be mean or anything...

But to help those pure pistol peeps out there like myself, I think this would be better.

MP

BH 0040

Smuggler 0040

TKA 0100

And here's why I think so.

With the TKA 0100 part, you get:

Combat Equilibirum +10

Defence Acuity +30

Melee Defence +15

Ranged Defence +15

Thanks,

Ubesane

I dont get it. Where are you getting the +15 MD and RD from? Also, the Def Acuity is 15, and the Combat equil is 20.

Message Edited by MujtahiD on 09-11-2004 10:22 PM

You get those from te tkA 0100 part...or was that supposed to be TKA 0001...either way..you get defence mods from tka with pistols.

Ubesane

Mon Sep 13, 2004 1:30 pm

#36

MujtahiD wrote:

Ubesane wrote:

well...after some crunching..I think I can one up you....not to be mean or anything...

But to help those pure pistol peeps out there like myself, I think this would be better.

MP

BH 0040

Smuggler 0040

TKA 0100

And here's why I think so.

With the TKA 0100 part, you get:

Combat Equilibirum +10

Defence Acuity +30

Melee Defence +15

Ranged Defence +15

Thanks,

Ubesane

I dont get it. Where are you getting the +15 MD and RD from? Also, the Def Acuity is 15, and the Combat equil is 20.

Message Edited by MujtahiD on 09-11-2004 10:22 PM

You get those from the tkA 0100 part...or was that supposed to be TKA 0001...either way..you get defence mods from tka with pistols.

Ubesane

djswift2k

Tue Sep 14, 2004 1:12 am

#37

brycedwrote:

p.s. the pure pistoleers that dont stack with other proffessions need not respond,,as you are clowns and can keep killing womprats for all i care.

i cant believe i missed that the first time i replied to this thread.

here isone REALLY BIGreason why not all pure pistloeers suck.

a pure pistoleer you can still cover for the lack of speed/accuracy withSEA's etc. this includes state defences, pistoleer standing/moving/generic accuracy and speed mods/other mods such as primary defense mods (melee/ranged) etc. now what? sure the other guys got higher, but you got bigger weaknesses too. all you need to break a defence stacker is novice brawler and a BE bandolier. any bh/pistoleer hybrid who doesnt have medic will lose unless hes very good, when fighitng an experienced player.

im not going to waste anyof mytime on you, as your comments do not warrant any mathematical explanations or indepth analysis from me. ill merely kill you next time i see you on valcyn and save a lot of time. just to prove you wrong. (assuming your actualy a pistoleer lol.

now go back to your cave troll.

shi0t said:

Your comment about tradingDefense for Accuracyand that you can cancel out the Dodge with superior accuracy is incorrect (especially if you meet a MLS Jedi with 85% SB.. Accuracy does little or nothing to this equation). I could go into the specifics now, but I don't really care to take the time. Put simply.. no amount of damage you could produce would kill me (someone with defense stacking) before I killed you (someone with less than half the defense). You can believe me or not on this one.

thats what dot's are for... that crap wont help a dime vs a nice fire dot. this doesnt even have oto be strong, 100 + str is enough to provide enough additoinal damage to overwhelm you. also witha pure stacker template, you cant heal. novice brawler + intimidate+ be +17intimidate/warcrybandolier= a whole lot of wasted skill points. vs 15 skill points. and you still cant heal.

neither extreme is balanced great, because they are different extremes. stackers and full offense bothl have serious major weaknesses. great gear, lots of experience, adn a well mixed and balanced template can usualy beat even the best stackers or best full on offensive players.

stealth mcownzjoo from valcyn

valcyns most veteran pistoleer(since release, one of the first to master as well, and stayed since)

Message Edited by djswift2k on 09-14-2004 04:23 AM

Message Edited by djswift2k on 09-14-2004 04:25 AM

Bryced

Tue Sep 14, 2004 1:22 am

#38

i believe i wrote that,,,and i stand by it. Your the ignorant one if you think otherwise. To your first big revelation,,,all you need is novice brawler with pistoleer? Are you out of your mind? My template willl take down any defensive stacking template if using a pistol in a duel. Thats just a fact. Im not bragging but ive done them all and i know,,,because i always lost to the template i have now. Pure pistoleers (and by this i mean only master pistoleer and they actually use pistols) are a joke,,,not personally but because they are trying to compete in SWG with a proffession that is completly broken. Just read some of the countless threads about all the broken specials and no working KD. Even if the specials were worked properly, Fan shot is crap,,,in both pvp and pve. The true pistoleers in my book are the ones that want to become good at using pistols and exceed in the art of using pistols. To do this,,you have to use pistol specials from smuggler/bh or both. If you disagree,,,then you just have no clue,,,so go kill those womprats with fan shot.....

but you better get buffed first.

Bryce

Corbantis

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djswift2k

Tue Sep 14, 2004 1:25 am

#39

oh quite right about that misquote im going back to edit, apologies to the fellow valcyner, i knew you were better than that!.

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