Pistoleer Archive
Thread: IS THIS THE BEST TEMPLATE?..id say so
MCPrimetime
Sat Sep 11, 2004 5:06 pm
#14
Bryced wrote:
master pistoleer..bh 0040...smuggler 0040..and novice commando.
Ive been pistoleer since the beginning,,,and ive done all the defensive stacking combo's,,,pistoleer/fencer/tk or some combination. What i realized very fast,,,is that even with stacked defenses i still got owned by the combo listed above...Reason i found was that last ditch is the best pistol special in game and no matter how much defense i stacked,,,i couldnt get around this. The accuracy from BH...make last ditch uber powerful even against pistoleer/fencer with the stacked dodge, as the accuracy and dodge cancels out.
I dont really want to hear much from the defensive stackers,,,because ive been there,,done that and your simply wrong. But from a offensive point of veiw,,,is this the best combo? I would like to hear a couple opinions on this. Ive tried a few things like getting a KD from TK,,but i found it was too hard to switch to pistol after the knockdown to be very effective in game.
Last point,,is that this combo allows launcher pistol,,,,so i literally can use,,scatter, de10, geo, dx2, and launcher which gives me alot of options.
So is there a better offensive template than this?
Also,,,if someone wants to say something about the effect of this force-sens combate accuracy,,,id love to hear some more stuff on that.
p.s. the pure pistoleers that dont stack with other proffessions need not respond,,as you are clowns and can keep killing womprats for all i care.
Bryce
Co-Leader of IRG
City of Troy
Lok
Corbantis
Agreed, this is the best combo now. For some weird ass bug reason...jedi seem to have trouble blocking launcher pistols as well.
BlackJango
Sat Sep 11, 2004 5:30 pm
#15
I agree somewhat with Bryce
I have this template and i love it. Smuggler/BH is needed 100% if you want to ONLY use pistols. Speed from BH, specails from Smuggler. Sad truth is, pistoleer alone, well, quite frankly sucks. I only hope the CB will brind more power so i can be a pistoleer and be able to hold my owe without using 238 skill points.
PS. Bryce, i retract my bid on "lot 6" as i just bought parts for 3 new ones. 
Bryced
Sat Sep 11, 2004 8:31 pm
#16
hehe,,,ok Blackk,,ty for letting me know. Ya,,,i looked and looked and i dont think there is anyway to get even novice medic with this template. Only way is to drop almost all bh skills which i just cant do.
the other point i wanted to make is that its very hard to drop right now (other than the jedi killer part) but if anyone is doing the village,,,having blaster allows you to cap pistol xp and heavy weapons. It of course doesnt help alot,,,but it saves some trips to the village to exchange xp.
ty for opinions guys. Keep posting if any other suggestions on the most POWERFUL OFFENSIVE template.
Bryce
MujtahiD
Sat Sep 11, 2004 10:21 pm
#17
Ubesane wrote:
well...after some crunching..I think I can one up you....not to be mean or anything...
But to help those pure pistol peeps out there like myself, I think this would be better.
- MP
- BH 0040
- Smuggler 0040
- TKA 0100
And here's why I think so.
With the TKA 0100 part, you get:
- Combat Equilibirum +10
- Defence Acuity +30
- Melee Defence +15
- Ranged Defence +15
Thanks,
Ubesane
I dont get it. Where are you getting the +15 MD and RD from? Also, the Def Acuity is 15, and the Combat equil is 20.
Message Edited by MujtahiD on 09-11-2004 10:22 PM
McJesus
Sat Sep 11, 2004 10:51 pm
#18
Bryced wrote:
ty for post Altair,,,ya, your right about the 0020 bh and how that really doesnt hurt accuracy too much. I would love to get some medic (even novice) but i still wouldnt have the skill points if i went down to bh 0020, and dropped novice commando.
for some of you others,,,yes, I know this is a common template, and i phrased my post in a way to get answers i wanted. If you dont like,,,too bad. I just didnt want to hear about all the defensive stacking templates...ive heard it all before. Sorry if the little children thought i was rude. lolol.
And Altair ive actually read that after combat balance,,the +12 for force sens accuracy is going to turn into a percentage. Maybe i could go down to 0020bh,,but DAM, i do love eye shot sometimes, especially when your dueling a rifleman/doc or some combination with medic.
Anyone else got a better Offensive template.?
Bryce
I went ahead and highlighted the parts that made you look stupid.
If you dont want to hear some alternatives to your template (ie defensive stacking), then perhaps you shouldnt post. Thanks for telling us your template, please dont complain when we tell you ours.
Personally, I go Master Pistols/Smuggler/TKM, just cause its cool.
Mikethemainman
Sun Sep 12, 2004 12:38 am
#19
The only thing I have seen that I like as much as the orignal posted combo is : MP, BH 0440, Carbineer 0001, novice fencer. This give you 5 away from the dodge cap and Excellent Kd's from BH. However, it does lack some carbine accuracy rendering this not as good.. But I have been trying out that Commando Thing as well and I dont know if I like it that much either.. Decisions decisions.
Bryced
Sun Sep 12, 2004 1:11 am
#20
i just asked you def stackers not to post. Please read my original post. It always goes off subject about the million variations of defensive stacking, and since this template will own any of them, why clogg the thread with it. So calm down big fella.
Bryce
Lires
Sun Sep 12, 2004 1:14 am
#21
If you can afford the +25 pistol speed tapes then I would just go Master Pistoleer/Master TKA/0040 Smuggler/3400 Fencer if you don't like healing. If you like healing then do what you wish with medic and drop the fencer.
Bryced
Sun Sep 12, 2004 1:28 am
#22
ive had that identical template actually. I really liked it. I think that one is very close in effectiveness to the one i have now...I have tons of defensiveattachments in my stun armor for pvp,,,that would be the same as buying acc and sppeedattachments if i dropped bh. Main difference is eye shot and the ability to target the mind pool. Its very hard to take down medics and docs without eyeshot with your template. I found that that,,acc and speed from bh make my template a little better. If i could effectively KD with TKM then switch to pistol, then your template would be better i think, but it just doesnt work.
ty for post.
Bryce
BlackJango
Sun Sep 12, 2004 11:52 am
#23
Bryced wrote:
ty for post Altair,,,ya, your right about the 0020 bh and how that really doesnt hurt accuracy too much. I would love to get some medic (even novice) but i still wouldnt have the skill points if i went down to bh 0020, and dropped novice commando.
for some of you others,,,yes, I know this is a common template, and i phrased my post in a way to get answers i wanted. If you dont like,,,too bad. I just didnt want to hear about all the defensive stacking templates...ive heard it all before. Sorry if the little children thought i was rude. lolol.
And Altair ive actually read that after combat balance,,the +12 for force sens accuracy is going to turn into a percentage. Maybe i could go down to 0020bh,,but DAM, i do love eye shot sometimes, especially when your dueling a rifleman/doc or some combination with medic.
Anyone else got a better Offensive template?
Bryce
Now, why did you (bryced) say you dont wana hear from people with variations when your asking for better varitions?
You know i like you man, its been fun times in the bunker and such, but i dont really understand you right here.
Bryced
Sun Sep 12, 2004 1:33 pm
#24
hey blackk,,,just wanted to try to limit this thread to talking about the best offensive template,,,not defense. I didnt want to hear about the million diff variations that a person could do. Reason: Ive tried virtually all the defense stacking combo's.
gl
ill be at bunker later,,,stealing your loot. lol
Bryce
blackgunz
Sun Sep 12, 2004 3:20 pm
#25
Bryced wrote:
master pistoleer..bh 0040...smuggler 0040..and novice commando.
Ive been pistoleer since the beginning,,,and ive done all the defensive stacking combo's,,,pistoleer/fencer/tk or some combination. What i realized very fast,,,is that even with stacked defenses i still got owned by the combo listed above...Reason i found was that last ditch is the best pistol special in game and no matter how much defense i stacked,,,i couldnt get around this. The accuracy from BH...make last ditch uber powerful even against pistoleer/fencer with the stacked dodge, as the accuracy and dodge cancels out.
I dont really want to hear much from the defensive stackers,,,because ive been there,,done that and your simply wrong. But from a offensive point of veiw,,,is this the best combo? I would like to hear a couple opinions on this. Ive tried a few things like getting a KD from TK,,but i found it was too hard to switch to pistol after the knockdown to be very effective in game.
Last point,,is that this combo allows launcher pistol,,,,so i literally can use,,scatter, de10, geo, dx2, and launcher which gives me alot of options.
So is there a better offensive template than this?
Also,,,if someone wants to say something about the effect of this force-sens combate accuracy,,,id love to hear some more stuff on that.
p.s. the pure pistoleers that dont stack with other proffessions need not respond,,as you are clowns and can keep killing womprats for all i care.
Bryce
Co-Leader of IRG
City of Troy
Lok
Corbantis
Depends what you consiter the best offense
This is a great template for blowing down turrets and AT-STs, but i didnt find as much use for it in PvP ( http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=setandget&tp=99659&poll_id=0&category_id=20&warned=ymy old Turret/AT-ST Killer )
But im trying out Master Fencer, Pistoleer 0/0/4/0, Doc 4/0/3/0 on TC-Ahazi, and theDesperado Rogue Pistoleertemplate plows me down, and as well as kiting rifleman w/ a Jawa Ion. ( The TC-Ahazi Armor doesnt have Stun Resits, but that changes on my Live Character )
So, its good for killin turrets/AT-STs, and i would assume good against non-master brawlers.
Altairrr
Sun Sep 12, 2004 4:55 pm
#26
Bryced wrote:ty for post Altair,,,ya, your right about the 0020 bh and how that really doesnt hurt accuracy too much. I would love to get some medic (even novice) but i still wouldnt have the skill points if i went down to bh 0020, and dropped novice commando.
My template is M.Pistols, BH 0020, Smuggler 0040, 1000 Medic. You should have enough points.
Bryced wrote:Maybe i could go down to 0020bh,,but DAM, i do love eye shot sometimes, especially when your dueling a rifleman/doc or some combination with medic.Bryce
0020 BH does have Eyeshot.