Pistoleer Archive

Thread: Why BH's should ALWAYS be stronger the pistoleer

Snuffer
Wed Aug 06, 2003 6:33 am
#14

I agree that BH has much higher pre-requisites in terms of skill points .. and it is the reason I decided not to take up BH when it is initially what I wanted to do.


Wasn't a troll it was a fact because I see alot of pistoleers crying about wanting to be stronger then a bh.


Its when people like you who said.. **edit** thats to hard and then took the easy route and want to be as strong as the hard route start crying nerf.. Thats when you get people like me that call you on being lame


Not saying you in particular I don't know if you are a lame or not hehe. Have not read any of your posts except this one but I am calling that general mentality lame and the people that have it lame




Snuffs, Bounty Hunter
hmmm. the game is getting better.... Think i'm going to stick around if things keep going this direction.
Kud
Wed Aug 06, 2003 6:38 am
#15

on Traquinas ive seen 1 master pistoleer and 2 master bh....


and i see more expert bhs than novice pistoleers...




Jedgar Demolition Stalker of the Empire. Tarquinas (UnGuilded)

Draul Wushu Demolitionist of the Empire. Chilastra (NOVA)

Snuffer
Wed Aug 06, 2003 6:40 am
#16

Cud,


There are no master BH's.


Varv (our rep) is desperatly looking for a single master BH to do some testing with.. not 1 poped up so far.


If they are there give us thier name, Many times people said me and Azrael were master Bh's lol and were not




Snuffs, Bounty Hunter
hmmm. the game is getting better.... Think i'm going to stick around if things keep going this direction.
Rej1355
Wed Aug 06, 2003 6:40 am
#17

Personally I think that they should leave Bounty Hunters as they are now, but put player bounties in game and make it impossible for BHs to join a faction. They'd still get PvP from player bounties (which is why the profession became hyped in the first place). Doesn't really seem to make any sense that a bounty hunter would tie himself down to one faction in a civil war anyway, they are supposed to be freelance hired killers.


And I don't think pistoleers are upset over MASTER BHs being better, they are upset over BH's with just the BH pistol spec line being better, because they get more + to speed and accuracy bonuses as well as some great special moves at lower xp cost.

Darth-Towelman
Wed Aug 06, 2003 6:43 am
#18

err let's get one thing straight... im a novice pistoleer and have up to lowblow in dirty fighting... i completely own bh.. why is that.. smugglers/pistoleers master in pistol moves.... that is fair... bh has 3 weapons.. i don't get why you think bh should be so great.. they have 3 weapon classes for different situations.. pistoleers have one. and yes... pistoleer's combat exp tree is a pain in the butt.. i recently dropped commando because i got sick of waiting for them to fix it. when they do fix it.. i expect to see commandos doing 1k-2k dmg to pc players in duels because they are the masters of ranged combat.. don't get off why u saying bh should be on par with commando.. shouldn't even be close in terms of damage. just my thoughts



Isroc Ellis - Booty Hunter Extraordinaire
Snuffer
Wed Aug 06, 2003 6:48 am
#19

I think commando is your king of group damage. AOE everything that he uses just about. 1 on 1 a bh should be able to take on a commando now you get it in a 5 bh vs 5 commandos and count in AOE the commandos should OWN the bh's.



Snuffs, Bounty Hunter
hmmm. the game is getting better.... Think i'm going to stick around if things keep going this direction.
Stelonous
Wed Aug 06, 2003 6:57 am
#20

It all depends on your thought processes on how BH should work.


BH has to be able to kill PCs... and decent level NPCs. They can't do this if they are weaker than a Pistoleer. The main point is that Pistoleers can go into many different professions because they don't need as many skill points to become master. You can then take TK, or a melee, or a Medic, or a CH. The options abound for a Pistoleer.


That's the point. It requires so much more dedication to become BH that it should be a rather elite class. Same with Commando, except even Commandos don't need as much skills as BH.


More skills needed to be BH = less skills for other add-in professions = BH shuold be rather uber and better than standard elite classes.


Pistoleers need just one tree togo into their profession. The world is their oyster after that.


It's simply a matter of scale and skill points.


If you want Pistoleer to be uber and utterly awesome, demand more pre-reqs for it so it takes longer and more skills to acheive. Then you'll actually have the necessary pre-req backing to ask for more uber abilities.




Mecra Von'Stelonous
Stelonous
Wed Aug 06, 2003 6:58 am
#21

I agree about the Commando thing. 1 vs 1 = Commando owned. Group vs Group = Commando owns.





Mecra Von'Stelonous
NightCarter
Wed Aug 06, 2003 6:59 am
#22

From your recent posts:


"who told you carbine/pistol/rifle guy is going to kill us easy?


I have yet to see one that stood a chance against me."


.. and you still think BH's should ALWAYS be stronger than Pistoleers (your words) Wouldn't it be better if things were more balanced ?


and..


"its real simple for me.. I bought the game to be a bounty hunter.. I want to be a bounty hunter to hunt players. If the game can't deliver in a few months then i'm out. "


So you're going to quit ? But you thought you would come here and troll us first


Back to the BH forums for you my lad !



NightCarter
Wed Aug 06, 2003 7:01 am
#23

I think the point here is that Bounty Hunters should be campaigning for lower pre-reqs for their profession.. rather than coming to the Pistoleer boards and boasting that they are better than Pistoleers.

JawaFunk
Wed Aug 06, 2003 7:07 am
#24

Well, I'm sick to death of this argument, but I thought I'd throw in my two credits


A master bounty hunter should be more powerful then a master pistoleer, yes


But a master pistoleer should be better with a pistol


And a master carbineer should be better with a carbine


Yes, BH does have a lot more prereqs, but you are getting other skills with all those prereqs...


A pistoleer that has climbed five skill trees for pistol use should be better with his pistols then a BH that has climbed two, plain and simple


It seems to me that a BH's strength should come from an ability to quickly adapt to any situation, not simply be the best when any gun put in front of him (or her )

Snuffer
Thu Aug 07, 2003 1:42 am
#25

From your recent posts:


"who told you carbine/pistol/rifle guy is going to kill us easy?


I have yet to see one that stood a chance against me."


Thats before I discovered the joys of 1 shot killing stopping shot that needs to be nerfed beyond just the 75% damage pvp general balancing. Stopping shot damage needs to go way down.


.. and you still think BH's should ALWAYS be stronger than Pistoleers (your words) Wouldn't it be better if things were more balanced ?


This is out of context but thank you.


and..


"its real simple for me.. I bought the game to be a bounty hunter.. I want to be a bounty hunter to hunt players. If the game can't deliver in a few months then i'm out. "


Have you notcied I now have my own guild? You need to figure out what the word recent means.


You sure you don't work for the media? you have knack for taking a few words out of context and quoting them.




Snuffs, Bounty Hunter
hmmm. the game is getting better.... Think i'm going to stick around if things keep going this direction.
Apollo99
Thu Aug 07, 2003 1:59 pm
#26

Snuffer. I am a master pistoleer + I have the entire pistol line in the bounty hunter tree. This leaves me with 19 points left, while getting master bounty hunter leaves you with 33. This is why I should be more powerful than you in pvp. You get better missions and a more range of weapons than me, I ONLY GET PISTOLS AND SPEND MORE POINTS THAN YOU. So if you are equal or better than me in pvp, that makes it totally unfair, since you get more abilities, wider range of weapons and more skill points left than me.


So I should own you in pvp. See your logic is used against you now, how do you feel by being inferior .

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