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This is what we have to get.

70550 combat xps
91k pistol
91k carbine
91k rifle
400k misc weaopn xps (for the 40k combat to qualify)

62k scouting
31k trapping
36k wilderness

473790 total + 400k additional weaopns xps you get while trying to quialify with the 40k combat to get bh. so to qualify to be bh you need 874k xps (rounded up). and mind you that alot of this xps is harder to get then just shooting a mob with a gun... wilderness xps.. camps.. you have to have people getin your caps.. Scouting xps you get from skinning mobs.. at about 100ish for a nice high level mob... thats skinning 620 mobs.. you get the point.

only have 90 skill points remaining after you make novice bh.

pistoleer carbineer rifleman 216k xps of only the weapon they are using.. no camping.. no battle xps (as req for the class).. no nothing.. just a weapon.

you have to make more then 4x more xps then a normal profession.. on top of that you have to make it in DIFFERENT weapon lines.. so while he is spec and getting the uber xps.. you are pulling out your intermediate rifle... harder xps with or without group because even in group you compete for xps by the damage you do...

ohhh and by the way.. hehe just another little tid bit on easy bounty hunter life... you need:

34k investigation xps to get investigation IV..

at low leves you get around 40-60.. take you 20-30 minutes to get it.. at higher levels you get about 100+ can take you up to 2-3 hrs to finish them... and no.. you cant do those quick (in compairison to the other ones) 40-60 bh xps once you get investigation leveled because the game forces harder missions on you. lets take a 100 xps per hour just for fun.. that would be 340 hours just to get investigation IV.

this is what you have to get.

216k pistol xps.

215 skill points remaining.

errr .. I'm not even halfway to Master Pistoleer yet but I have already blown over a million xp with a million more at least to go .. plus there is around 250k combat experience.

Did you look at the Pistoleer tree ??? I don't understand how you worked out the numbers for Pistoleer.

this is to qualify to become a BH vs Qualify to become PIstoleer..

Did you notice there are MANY master pistoleers on several servers and yet....

not 1 master BH yet.

Just added it up ..

4.5m Pistol and Combat XP for Master Pistoleer.

1.6m Scout, Marksman and some Pistol for Bounty Pistol Specialisation IV

Doesn't quite add up does it ?

Master Scout is easy to get and Marksman not much harder. I honestly don't think there is a case for BH Pistol being better / more powerful !

So because Sony droped the ball on investgation we should suffer? Pistoleers are master of Pistol combat, Bounty Hunters give that up for the right to use many diffrent weapons. If bounty hunters were limited to just pistols I could see your point, but they are not.

you fail to see the WHOLE picture. the BIG one. You know the that shows BH IS A GOOD 10X HARDER TO GET THEN PISTOLEER picture.

Pistoleer is something a CRAFTER takes up to shoot at something.

If you want to put REAL combat classes side by side. BRING OUT THE COMMANDO.. now that is someone who should be on par with a BH.

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NightCarter wrote:

Just added it up ..

4.5m Pistol and Combat XP for Master Pistoleer.

1.6m Scout, Marksman and some Pistol for Bounty Pistol Specialisation IV

Doesn't quite add up does it ?

Master Scout is easy to get and Marksman not much harder. I honestly don't think there is a case for BH Pistol being better / more powerful !

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Master Scout and Master Marksman was easier to get at the time the game launched up until now. I dought you can say the same with all the fixes and nerfs that went in. To master both starting professions all over again will take 2x to 3x longer.

Experience is not a significant issue. It's a useless thing to compare. Easy to get, and only something you have to get once.

The significant comparison that explains why BH needs to be stronger than Pistoleer is the number of skill points it takes.

A character with the same number of skill points focused on combat type skills should be on par.

So while a BH should be stronger at combat than a Pistoleer, a master BH, with 33 skill points left, should be on par with a Pistoleer / CH combo with only 33 skill points left, or a defensive oriented build of Pistoleer / TKA with 33 pts left.

What you're arguing is correct Snuffer, but HOW you're arguing it is wrong.

"Pistoleer is something a CRAFTER takes up to shoot at something"

lol .. too much Neutron Pixie ?

something you have to get once.

The significant comparison that explains why BH needs to be stronger than Pistoleer is the number of skill points it takes.

A character with the same number of skill points focused on combat type skills should be on par.

So while a BH should be stronger at combat than a Pistoleer, a master BH, with 33 skill points left, should be on par with a Pistoleer / CH combo with only 33 skill points left, or a defensive oriented build of Pistoleer / TKA with 33 pts left.

What you're arguing is correct Snuffer, but HOW you're arguing it is wrong.

I agree with you yeti to a certain extent yeti

Its difficulty of getting it and skill points used. You can branch out to several trees alot easier then going up the BH tree. BH is a very very specialized prof in this game that requires you to spend all your points on that one thing. You don't have options and are not forced to spend that many points in any other profession in game (no jedi yet).

10x as hard LOL

Its a time sink, thats all. Pistoleers are the master of Pistol Combat. Get over it. Bounty Hunter should never be as good as the pure weapon class masters. We give up other weapons to be the best at what we are.

I agree that BH has much higher pre-requisites in terms of skill points .. and it is the reason I decided not to take up BH when it is initially what I wanted to do.

It's a choice .. one that you made... why the need to come to the PISTOLEER board and start trolling ?