Pistoleer Archive

Thread: DEVs Pistoleers can't use Scatter Pistol, why not?

Mohrravvian
Mon Sep 22, 2003 7:01 pm
#14

Uh, how about the definition where you USE YOUR BRAIN.


FYI: Scatter Pistol may be known as a BH weapon today, but there's NO reason for it to stay that way. Things change rapidly in an expanding galaxy... and what's yours today could be gone tomorrow, quite easily. I want you to explain to me how it makes any sense that anyone is better with a Pistoler than a Master Pistoleer. If anyone can explain it in a way that really makes sense, I'll buy it. But saying "It's illegal" or "only Bounty Hunters use it" doesn't cut it. What, I'm supposed to believe that someone who trains with pistols as his entire profession would be totally lost on a scatter pistol? Why, did they make the trigger backwards? Hide it somewhere? Sorry... illogical. Explain it to me using logic rather than just using the "I want it all for myself as a BH" logic and maybe I'll buy it.




MOHRRAVVIAN - CHILASTRA
Commando 0-1-4-0, Pistoleer 0-0-4-3, TKA 2-0-1-0, Master Marksman,
Smuggler 0-0-1-0, Medic 2-1-4-0, Brawler 4-0-0-0

ALOR - VALCYN
Novice Pistoleer, Smuggler 0-0-0-2, Marksman 0-4-0-4, Medic 2-0-4-0
Scout 3-3-2-1, Brawler 2-0-0-0
deadnewbie
Tue Sep 23, 2003 5:21 am
#15

You start with pistols today. Tomorrow you'll start with pistol specials. Why can the master of pistols not use specials that go with pistols? Why is a certain shot only usable with pistols not usable by pistoleers?


Do you see where this train is going?




Imperial Minister of Information
StriferSidira
Tue Sep 23, 2003 5:29 am
#16

PISTOLEERS CAN'T USE SCATTER PISTOLS WHAAAAAAAAAAAA MOMMMMYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!



Hmm, my point has been made.




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Wepps
Tue Sep 23, 2003 5:42 am
#17






WookFu wrote:

Yeah, and if bh's are trained so well in the use of pistols...they should also be able to use dx2 i guess.








Seems to me the DX-2 is a Pistoleer weapon.


Scatters are Bounty Hunter only, special weaponry not openly available to everybody. Not available from the military black market or other more common sources. There will be more coming that are BH only as well.


If you want to use a Scatter Pistol, become a BH dabbler like all other Pistoleers worth their DNA are doing. Otherwise, don't. Simple.




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VaainEldritch
Tue Sep 23, 2003 5:48 am
#18

StriferSidira, what eyeshot nerf would that be? As far as I know the designer has said the likely fate of eyeshot is for it to be moved to Master BH and the second tier BH pitol gap filled by some other special. That is not a nerf. What it is is good for the BH class, since we keep eyeshot and the "dreaded dabbler" is denied this ability. Sound good to me.



Va'ain

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"to interfere with one's gaming enjoyment: To drastically alter an item which is enjoyed by thousands."

TO pull a smed. Jeez, those dev's pulled a smed on swg big time

Hakkin
Tue Sep 23, 2003 5:51 am
#19






Mohrravvian wrote:

Uh, how about the definition where you USE YOUR BRAIN.


FYI: Scatter Pistol may be known as a BH weapon today, but there's NO reason for it to stay that way. Things change rapidly in an expanding galaxy... and what's yours today could be gone tomorrow, quite easily. I want you to explain to me how it makes any sense that anyone is better with a Pistoler than a Master Pistoleer. If anyone can explain it in a way that really makes sense, I'll buy it. But saying "It's illegal" or "only Bounty Hunters use it" doesn't cut it. What, I'm supposed to believe that someone who trains with pistols as his entire profession would be totally lost on a scatter pistol? Why, did they make the trigger backwards? Hide it somewhere? Sorry... illogical. Explain it to me using logic rather than just using the "I want it all for myself as a BH" logic and maybe I'll buy it.






Actually, its all really about the sekert BH handshake that you do with it that gives us the ability to use it, and not you. But, I shouldn't have let out that information, and now I will have the other BH's after me for telling you....



~ Hakkin ~
~ Master Bounty Hunter ~
~ Chilastra ~

Wepps
Tue Sep 23, 2003 5:52 am
#20






VaainEldritch wrote:
StriferSidira, what eyeshot nerf would that be? As far as I know the designer has said the likely fate of eyeshot is for it to be moved to Master BH and the second tier BH pitol gap filled by some other special. That is not a nerf. What it is is good for the BH class, since we keep eyeshot and the "dreaded dabbler" is denied this ability. Sound good to me.





Yeah. That's what they said. But last week welcomed a stealth nerf to the Eye Shot. Damage is significantly lower, and the effect is now broken and/or not remaining on the target long enough. So, Eye Shot is now another useless skill for Bounty Hunters at this time.


In fact, that makes only bleeding shot, torso shot, and the LLC left to beat down to pudding.


So get to work, and cry nerf on those.




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nero0102
Tue Sep 23, 2003 5:59 am
#21

"StriferSidira, what eyeshot nerf would that be? As far as I know the designer has said the likely fate of eyeshot is for it to be moved to Master BH and the second tier BH pitol gap filled by some other special. That is not a nerf. What it is is good for the BH class, since we keep eyeshot and the "dreaded dabbler" is denied this ability. Sound good to me. "



Yes now lets move Stopping Shot to Master Pistoleer.

Devir
Tue Sep 23, 2003 6:12 am
#22

because it's a bounty hunter pistol. If you want to you it invest the time to be a BH. even if yer just a dabbler.



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earlmarinus
Tue Sep 23, 2003 6:31 am
#23

Hey you guys want our Light Lighting Cannon/Rifle whatever SOE likes to call it.. I will even give you our invesigation tree if you want and all our tracking droids. Oh wait just become a bounty hunter want a scatter pistol. Oh wait that is right you had one line to go up in the marksman tree. You should be better then anyone else with pistols. Ok I agree there but um we train and get certified in scatter pistols. Oh yeah that is right you have a DX2 pistol.. Dam I want one of those. Oh wait let me sink my skill points into the pistoleer line. Not very hard to do since I mastered 4 lines in marksman tree and now I can choose any gun special tree I want since I had 3 trees to master in marksman and oh yeah have to do it again in BH. GUYS STOP WHINING. SOE gave us 250 skill points use them how you see fit and get your class fixed and stop complaining about this shot and that shot. Learn the game and how to counter attacks.



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Jangos
Tue Sep 23, 2003 7:30 am
#24

Bounty Hunter Pistol skill is a rigid styleand very focused. It is designed to concentrate on one target, and take them unawares. There is no flash, or flair, just a deadly stalking patience about it. A Scatter Pistol is a pistol fully suited for this style, the grips, the sight, and the variable power trigger. Its a slightly heavy pistol and rather encumbersome to one not fully trained in the steady focuzed attacked of a bounty hunter. Its triple grip trigger is perfectly designed for controling the amount of firepower coming out of the weapon, but is cumbersome for rapid fire type attacks.



A Pistoleer is trained with style and flair, they are quick and good on the run, they do fast multiple shots(aka double tap, fan shot). The Pistoleer style of training is of one that is on the move. They are light on thier feet, and do well with a sleek fast pistol, like the DX2. The DX2 has a smooth, quick trigger that is said by some to "pull like glass, and shoot like you blink". It has high temp supercunductors feeding the powercore to the energy to matter transponder. With a liquid nitrogen cooled barrel, this pistol remains very accurate throughout the longest volley of rapid fire shots. Unlike the scatter.





There is your answer!



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p.s. no **edit** I made this up.


atimes
Tue Sep 23, 2003 7:46 am
#25

The launcher pistol is a pistol too. . .
Peadar
Tue Sep 23, 2003 7:57 am
#26

I'm a Pistoleer and Idon't want touse a Scatter pistol. I want to use myDX2! but it sucks! I really don't care what skills or pistolsBH's can use. I want Pistoleer skills and specials to work! I want my profession to work. How the hell can anyone worry about other professions when ours is broken. Lets concentrate on Pistoleer and let the Bounty Hunter's worry about Bounty Hunters.





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