Pistoleer Archive
Thread: is there any hope for this proffesion
Cidem_Relaeh
Wed Aug 11, 2004 6:14 pm
#14
Squidwalker wrote:
Cidem_Relaeh wrote:
trajen2 wrote:
Esteni wrote:Im on the brink of giving up pistoleer, and taking up a unbroken proffesion! Is there any hope for pistoleersI have had good luck with pistoleer. . .I know some of our specials are technically broken but I use what i have and make it workInat
RBN
Same here. I went from something similar to the triple threat to "pure" pistol template and I love it. Pistols definitely have a certain something going for them. If you don't enjoy it, then definitely switch to something you can have fun with.
I have to ask those that say they are doing well and having fun. Because I bet I know that answer. Do you have any pistol professions besides pistoleer? Because if you do, I bet it's those parts of pistoleer that are working for you. Pistols itself in this game is fun, but the Pistoleer profession BY ITSELF is not any good really. To much not working, to underpowered compared other stand alone elite combat professions.
Doh, forgot to check this thread as it grew. Yeah, I have pistols IV from BH, rogue and novice commando. I agree that pistoleer is broken but pistols (can) rock. That said, I still really appreciate the defenses I get from pistoleer, as well as fanshot and healthshot2. I use those both regularly. I also like some of the sub-master titles, but that's irrelevant to most players heh. Regardless of what class/template/etc you play, make sure you're having fun or what's the point of paying $15/mo?
If anyone cares btw here are the attacks I use most, listed by frequency of use.
1) Last Ditch (Smuggler)
2) Fanshot (Pistoleer)
3) Healthshot2 (Pistoleer)
4) Low Blow (Smuggler)
5) Torso Shot (Bounty Hunter)
Eyeshot slips just off the radar mostly because of what I fight. As I get into pvp more I will likely start to use it more often. I do use it in pve of course, mainly when I'm grouping with my riflemen/swordsmen friends.
MetallicaJunkie
Wed Aug 11, 2004 6:35 pm
#15
SeraCohw wrote:
i was wondering what pistoleer skills are broken besdes pistol melee defence 2 and the 2 diable weapon skills(cant think of the names never use em) everything else seems to work u guys should lok at comando they have nothing and smuggler all they have is slicing really anymore
Commando have plenty. I have mastered commando recently and I have to say that it is possibly the most misunderstood profession in the game. Most commando's don't really see what they have, all they see is the god damned flamer. Just because the flamer has a dot don't mean **edit**, when I was a commando I was one shotting acid vuln creatures with my heavy acid rifle and acidsingle2, why hit a couple flames and wait for the dot?
The grenades are also especially useful, using proton grenades I capped my combat xpin just over an hour allowing me to pick up as much defence or offense from another profession as I'd like. 3.5k max damage,type heat, AP1, apply damage slice, and you can, blast radius permitting take out a full wave of quenks with one grenade, I managed seven quenks personally and the other two died to my spraystick I drew them in with. Also get somekliknik glands or acklayvenomand get some high damage cryoban grenades, theyoffer cold damage for those mobs with low resists to cold, though there are not many.
The heavy support weapons are also nice, AP3 blast, acid and electric damage to the tune of 3k+ all tasty when you're going in for high end PvE. Get some damage slices on those babies and you're talking rapage.
As for smuggler, I have to agree that they are gimped. All they have is slicing, neutron pixie is becoming slightly more popular, and the coming vendor nerf will crash the economy and possibly kill the pre-sliced equipment trade, Then smugglers will truly have nothing.
Bottom line, commando is working fine compared to pistoleer. It's just the player opinion of commando that's broken, if they played the full content of their profession they'd realise that, a pistoleer can't use all of their available content because it's either broken, ie specials or worse still, unobtainable, ie the DE-10
WillburWright
Wed Aug 11, 2004 6:43 pm
#16
Ha! and you're only 0020!
If we perservere, there will be hope. But, can we last that long?
Thanks for the one star! 
I wasn't "hating the noob", believe me, it just gets worse.... Master leaves you feeling lacking in something If you're complaining at only 0020, wait till you get higher.....
Message Edited by WillburWright on 08-12-2004 01:11 PM
Message Edited by WillburWright on 08-12-2004 01:12 PM
Esteni
Wed Aug 11, 2004 7:27 pm
#17
This isnt a hate on noob pistoleers post,if you want toannoy noobs go start one yourself
Esteni
Wed Aug 11, 2004 7:28 pm
#18
This isnt a hate on noob pistoleers post,if you want toannoy noobs go start one yourself
Jacella
Wed Aug 11, 2004 8:41 pm
#19
Pistoleer isn't a stand-alone prof, you need to couple it with another prof to see the fulness of it's glory...my template works well, just not in base assaults 
Pistoleer Bh is good aswell.
Pistoleer Bh is good aswell.
MetallicaJunkie
Thu Aug 12, 2004 5:44 am
#20
Jacella wrote:
Pistoleer isn't a stand-alone prof, you need to couple it with another prof to see the fulness of it's glory...my template works well, just not in base assaults
We can all pretty much agree that currently pistoleer is not a stand alone profession, but if in order to make a profession work you have to gather skills from several others then something isn't right. I'm all for stacking like skills to enhance, but just to make it work is wrong. Pistoleers and carbineers should be able to stand alone in their own field just as a rifleman can. I'm not asking for equal dps as that's stupid, I'm asking for pistoleers and carbineers to get the fixes they need so badly, we need our specials to work, carbineers need some decent guns and we both could use a lot more speed.
Golrok
Thu Aug 12, 2004 8:56 am
#21
Yes pistol whip (/pistolmeleedefense1) is great. Its a KD and works fairly well in pvp and pve and it looks cool. I highly recommend it works especially well followed by / panicshot, /peace from dirty fighting tree, then /pointblankarea1 (fast shot), or to put distance between your opponent.. It'll give you a chance against a TKA in PVP.
*good opening move while waiting for opponent to round a corner.
*good opening move while waiting for opponent to round a corner.
Message Edited by Golrok on 08-12-2004 09:51 AM
SeraCohw
Thu Aug 12, 2004 5:09 pm
#22
multi target works to it hits everything in every direction up to like u max range and the only ones that dont but pistol wihip may be broken but disarm is definatly broken but that is itr
Esteni
Thu Aug 12, 2004 5:50 pm
#23
Thanks a lot, excuse me for my n00bness , but what does AP mean. i see , stuff about AP all over sth froums, how people want a medium AP2 or somtyin like that?
Hakai
Thu Aug 12, 2004 7:04 pm
#24
Esteni wrote:
Thanks a lot, excuse me for my n00bness , but what does AP mean. i see , stuff about AP all over sth froums, how people want a medium AP2 or somtyin like that?
AP stands for Armor Piercing. AP0 means a base weapon, AP 1 means it's effective against "light" rated armor, AP2 means it's good against "medium" and AP3 is good against "heavy".
basically all we have in our repitoire is ap0 and ap1. meaning if something has medium armor (even if they're vulnerable to a specific damage we're dishing out) we might as well salt ourselves and let em take a bite......
Jacella
Fri Aug 13, 2004 3:17 am
#25
Yes, I agree that we are hobbled. It sux that I need to have smuggler for a decent damage shot and ranged KD. I would have loved to be able to have a change state type of shot, but the reality is that the only"fixes" that have come from the devs have been nerfs. I am tired of every update making me less and less effective, while others are getting more and more powerful...ok, the cm's got hit, but we all hate them anyhow 
. I am just extremely hesitant to ask the devs for anything since they only seem to look for ways to make my pvp experience the worst possible. That last weapon switching delay is retarded. Forget holding my own against the ranger/rifleman now. I would like to see some more resonable, and by reasonable I mean something we have a chance at selling to the devs, fixes and balances. Start small, the work bigger...kinda like when you start dating
. I am just extremely hesitant to ask the devs for anything since they only seem to look for ways to make my pvp experience the worst possible. That last weapon switching delay is retarded. Forget holding my own against the ranger/rifleman now. I would like to see some more resonable, and by reasonable I mean something we have a chance at selling to the devs, fixes and balances. Start small, the work bigger...kinda like when you start dating
Esteni
Fri Aug 13, 2004 10:10 am
#26
Oh , tah ehlps, are the new pistols live yet, i heard they are? I dont know because i have yet to go near the geo caves