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Ternque01

Tue Jul 20, 2004 8:24 pm

Well personally.... if you had a nice DX2 or scatter pistol you would do VERY nice in PvP.

Most shield gens do not protect against acid damage. If you can get a 500 max damage DX2 it will outperform your 600 max damage DE-10 because it goes right past shields

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Atama

Tue Jul 20, 2004 11:02 pm

#15

Haha I've never met someone on my server that actually wore a PSG. They're buggy and rarely last a fight. Not worth it.

Imp-117 posted an excellent example of how AP/AR is intended to work. The question is how it really works. People I've known who tested it find that it doesn't work as stated.

Probably just another thing that will be fixed in the revamp. 8 months from now.

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Bumbofett

Tue Jul 20, 2004 11:57 pm

#16

if anyone has sun armor with out a rely rely powerful geo ur screwed Ap0 vs Ar1= 50% dmg reduction meaning the 300 dmg geo only actualy is doing 96dmg vs 36% stun armor and at this point the only thing that matters is hitting the mind with the pistol or else most people tend to regen to fast so it all moot

Datchery

Tue Jul 20, 2004 11:58 pm

#17

Well, AP 'definitely' works in PvE....so I find it highly likely it works in PvP...

Admiral_Schaal

Wed Jul 21, 2004 12:10 am

#18

Which gun works better in PvP takinginto account stun armor and high energy resistance on composite armor.

My DE-10 has a max damage of 673 with powerup

My geo blaster has a max damage of 472 with powerup.

I did my math with stun armor with 37% resist and energy resist at 80%

By my math the Geo blaster outperformed the DE-10.

Did I do my math wrong or does the Geo Blaster perform better under these circumstances?

Any feedback would be appreciated.

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Bennyboy4308

Wed Jul 21, 2004 12:12 am

#19

Add in a PSG with 25% energy and 45% stun resist.

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TenshiHanaKinu

Wed Jul 21, 2004 12:18 am

#20

Unfortunately the Geo is the only viable weapon in PvP for a Pistoleer right now.

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MagicHobo

Wed Jul 21, 2004 12:32 am

#21

energy damage is virtually useless. almost everything has resists to it. If the DE-10 had any armor piercing it would be good.

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Ischaria

Wed Jul 21, 2004 4:30 am

#22

AP does not matter in PvP at all, I find that my Geo blaster is very effective (good min/max values 211-298) so not too much effect from mitigation and after about a good few spams of eye shot and someone pounding on the person their PSG usually breaks very quickly

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Ternque01

Wed Jul 21, 2004 9:09 am

#23

Seph_Iroth wrote:

Ternque01 wrote:

Well personally.... if you had a nice DX2 or scatter pistol you would do VERY nice in PvP.

Most shield gens do not protect against acid damage. If you can get a 500 max damage DX2 it will outperform your 600 max damage DE-10 because it goes right past shields

de10 goes through sheilds too because it is AP1. shields only block AP0 things.. like Geos and stun batons.

I have no idea where you are getting this information. As far as I have known, PSG's block anything that it has resistance to regardless of the weapons armor piercing. Maybe you read somewhere that AP1 goes through a shield gen without a damage reduction.. but the resistances DO reduce it from my understanding.

Take two shots of 100 energy damage hitting a PSG.. this is what will go through. This PSG has 25% energy resistance.

AP0: 100 X .75 = 75 for the AP0 penalty of hitting an light rated armor piece. 75 X .75 = 56.3 for the resistances. We have 56.3 getting through a shield.

AP1: 100 X 1= 100 for AP1 not having ANY penalty of passing through a light rated armor piece. Then factor in the resistances for a total of 100 X .75 = 75 energy damage

Where you get that AP1 weapons aren't hindered by shields blows me away. Care to point out any references?

If my acid pistol shoots a PSG with 0 acid resistance, It will pass right through untouched. A DE-10 striking a PSG with energy resistance will get cut down.

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DimiGR

Wed Jul 21, 2004 12:14 pm

#24

Well I belive the dx2 is the best pistoleer weapon.

Great range modifiers.

Great damage range (vs dam. migration).

Ap1.

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Well the dx2 comes in the same category with de10.

It haslower damage output than the de10 but it hase great point blank/ideal range modifiers.

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BloodMonk

Thu Jul 22, 2004 3:46 am

#25

a 500 max damage DX2 would take over 200+ max damage tissue AND a damage slice though...

I'd love to get a DE-10, but speed has to be under 2s for me though...

In PvP I use my geo (1.8 164-474) most of the time, if ti ain't working I switch to DX2 (1.5 120-279) but it takes a long time to take someone down with it....

PSG's are widely used on our server (Tempest), but there still seem to be people without stun armor too lol....resulting in me last ditching em for over 1k

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reptile80

Thu Jul 22, 2004 10:45 am

#26

In my opinion the geo is the weapon of choice for pvp

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