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Thread: De-10 vs Geo Blaster in PVP

Seph_Iroth
Thu Jul 22, 2004 5:04 pm
#27



Ternque01 wrote:


Seph_Iroth wrote:


Ternque01 wrote:
Well personally.... if you had a nice DX2 or scatter pistol you would do VERY nice in PvP.
Most shield gens do not protect against acid damage. If you can get a 500 max damage DX2 it will outperform your 600 max damage DE-10 because it goes right past shields





de10 goes through sheilds too because it is AP1. shields only block AP0 things.. like Geos and stun batons.


I have no idea where you are getting this information. As far as I have known, PSG's block anything that it has resistance to regardless of the weapons armor piercing. Maybe you read somewhere that AP1 goes through a shield gen without a damage reduction.. but the resistances DO reduce it from my understanding.

Take two shots of 100 energy damage hitting a PSG.. this is what will go through. This PSG has 25% energy resistance.

AP0: 100 X .75 = 75 for the AP0 penalty of hitting an light rated armor piece. 75 X .75 = 56.3 for the resistances. We have 56.3 getting through a shield.

AP1: 100 X 1 = 100 for AP1 not having ANY penalty of passing through a light rated armor piece. Then factor in the resistances for a total of 100 X .75 = 75 energy damage

Where you get that AP1 weapons aren't hindered by shields blows me away. Care to point out any references?

If my acid pistol shoots a PSG with 0 acid resistance, It will pass right through untouched. A DE-10 striking a PSG with energy resistance will get cut down.






well its pretty easy to find yourself, just get someone to shoot you with a jawa ion with and then without a PSG. the PSG does nothing to it. then do the same for a geo or stun baton. you will notice a difference for the ap0 weapons. I may be wrong but i have read this many places before and have observed it myself.



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Jaxin_Riens
Thu Jul 22, 2004 8:45 pm
#28


Back on day of release i used my de-10 3.8 220-467 to cut a rifleman with 80 percent helm down in a matter of 10 shots with eyeshot, that same rifleman equiped his 36% stun helm and i shot him wiht my geo pistol 2.3- 189-470 and i saw no difference geos don't have ap so that was 56 reduction plus mitagation plus the 36% stun helm so heres some math


per 100 damage


de-10


100 *.80 = 20 damage


geo pistol


100*.56 = 56 *.36= 20 damage


so as you see the same 100 damage gets turned into 20 so it is just simply which gun looks cooler and theDe-10 wins every time.


doh

Message Edited by Jaxin_Riens on 07-22-2004 08:46 PM

Ipseck
Fri Jul 23, 2004 7:58 am
#29



Seph_Iroth wrote:


Ternque01 wrote:
Well personally.... if you had a nice DX2 or scatter pistol you would do VERY nice in PvP.
Most shield gens do not protect against acid damage. If you can get a 500 max damage DX2 it will outperform your 600 max damage DE-10 because it goes right past shields





de10 goes through sheilds too because it is AP1. shields only block AP0 things.. like Geos and stun batons.




wrong. Jawa's are AP1 and the psg will protect against it. I've seen it in my combat logs.. When someone with a krayt jawa is only doing 60 damage using master head shot, its quite obvious that its doing its job.





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