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Thread: Bounty hunters should have to master there proffesion

BenedictAmber
Mon Aug 11, 2003 6:39 am
#14

The difference between pistol whip and underhand shot is all a matter of tactics. Simly put yourself in a position where usingPW is eaiser than using US. The problem with most people is they think PvP should always occur in a vaccum; I look for any advantage I can (terrain wise) and use it.
PorthosLowca
Mon Aug 11, 2003 8:00 am
#15

"Engaging(sp) a pistol whip is no harder than engaging in an underhand knockdown you only have to be closer. Distance doesnt make it harder "


You either have never engaged in a PvP fight or are being deliberately stupid... which is a difficult skill to master but I would suspect you're capable of it.


Saying that Pistol Whip and Underhand Shot are comparable because they're both knockdowns is like saying the Model T is comparable to a Formula One race car. They're both cars after all...




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Sepen
Mon Aug 11, 2003 8:26 am
#16

Cu7.. all do respect. I realise you HATE Dabblers and, for some reason want to lump everyone who isn't exactly like you into one bunch, but let's just ignore this for now...


How in god's name do you expect to Master BH withou ANY specials? How do you expect to kill your marks with only the basic Marksman crap? Is screwing the Dabblers over that important to you? That you would gimp your class? If it is... more power to you I guess...


Whatever...

UncleFaustie
Mon Aug 11, 2003 8:37 am
#17

I can't believe you kids.


How many "The way to make Pistoleers better is to nerf Bounty Hunters" posts have we seen around here?






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SmugglerFlux
Mon Aug 11, 2003 9:23 am
#18

BHs are definitely not overpowered, otherwise there wouldn't be so many of them dabbling in other professions.


I do agree that certain special moves should be moved around in many of the professions (including ours), though. The best should be higher up, and I think the devs didn't have a good idea what the best ones were when they designed the professions. For the purposes of this discussion I do think that Eye Shot should be way higher in the BH tree (Master Pistol Spec or Master BH) and our knockdown melee defense should at the very least be swapped with PMD2, if not pushed even higher. That's just my opinion though.




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Aerius
Mon Aug 11, 2003 10:38 am
#19






SmugglerFlux wrote:

BHs are definitely not overpowered, otherwise there wouldn't be so many of them dabbling in other professions.




Good comment.


As a side note, the profession system is setup to encourage dabbling and picking up different skills. I don't know why there are so many people "anti dabblers". I have 4 advanced professions and I like to do different things, just cause you decided to grind 2 trees to master and someone else doesn't want to, doesn't mean they are "overpowered".







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EnosFiroken
Mon Aug 11, 2003 10:56 am
#20

Barney, you are trying to detract for the main point and doing so horribly, the point is not if you have to change something we have to change something, the point is your knockdown, which will hit off before a melee pistol whip will, should be changed to be a higher skill, i would have to agree, but not to master, i mean you guys do have alot of your work cut out trying to get scout and marksman master. so i dont think you would have to master, but i think it should be upped a box or 2, i personally think 150,000 (or whatever) combat points is UNCOMPAREABLE to 150,000 carbine, you just cant compare the two, if you havent realized every thing you kill(given good creatures)may give you 100 combat xp while if you kill something it gives you 1-3k (again given the good creature)carbine or whatever experience, that is the point a few people are making, another given arguement is that, yes it is true, pistoleers need tobe better at pistols than any other class, which is why we have good stats on them, they just arent fixed yet lol, but in any case amaster pistoleer should give hell to abh with pistols. and one more point... dont ever say pistol whip and the bh rangedknockdown shot is comparable, becuase it isnt, in ranged vs melee knckdowns the bounty hunter will always win unless they are stupid..point and case.



sorry had to get my 2 cents in. er.... 2 bucks in this case lol


mareek
Mon Aug 11, 2003 1:10 pm
#21

bh aren't overpower more under powered ever tried to see howmany skill poinst they have left when master no you havn't , ever see what skill they have, noyou havn't . investigation and llc are useless yet they are overpowered riiiight, probots nerfed, knock down nefed and ohter nerfson the yay, what are you babling about.if you havn't played both professions your opinion is crap, go make a bh and see how "overpowered" they are you will get a shock. after what iv seen they have to take ch to do thier mission which bugged most of the time


yay i got master scout blah most of it is useless


yay i got master marksman heck don't need rifle for a thing


m bounty hunter 33 skill point left m pistoleer 158 does this ring a bell if it dosn't you may have failed in math bounty hunters should have some pretty good skill since have to master 2 friging classses frist which leaves you with nada skill points



nerf stoping shot ect ect or frigging get the same prerequrement as bh messure the **edit** classes in skill points

HandsOfShiva
Mon Aug 11, 2003 1:31 pm
#22

Bounty Hunters should master thier profession if it takes Master Marksmen and Master Artisan to reach Novice Pistoleer.

Sepen
Mon Aug 11, 2003 1:39 pm
#23

Diamond. If you read the posts, most people here flamed the one guy who said to do this nerf. While a BH supported it. Now do you think this is the general representation of the Pistoleer profession? If you do, then I beg you to read more. However over 90% of the BH posts are "I hate dabblers, I hate pistoleers, I hate CH/BHs I hate this I hate that I hate you I hate me I hate EVERYTHING!" Ok, yes I exagerated, but do I go as far as to generalise and say this is the mentality of every BH? No I don't.


The people on the boards do NOT represent the game community. More so, one or two posts asking to nerf and a good 10-20 telling that person to shut up... why do you choose to look at the nerf crier as your representitive? Whatever man...

RebDog
Mon Aug 11, 2003 3:47 pm
#24

Sorry pistoleers you are not meant to be teh end all be all of PVP. Yes you might master pistol, fine.. But the BH is supposed to be the 2nd most powerfull class in the game.. 2nd only to the jedi.. Whine, cry whatever you want to be its a fact.. This MMORPG is not meant to bring all classes balanced..If you want balance then why would ne1 become a JEDI. I for one would not want to have only 3 deaths and be only as strong as a pistoleer.
EliteBlast
Mon Aug 11, 2003 4:39 pm
#25

Im not crying nerf im just trying to say that most of the bounty hunteres crying about my idea are the ones who never plan to master the profession. They get there best attack then pick up something else, If you want your best attacks then master your proffesion. And yes pistoleers have alot of points left over, but if your going to have a good pvp system you cannot let one class dominate or you will end up with half the server being bounty hunters.
Sythe1
Mon Aug 11, 2003 5:47 pm
#26

I would just like to start off by commenting that, by your interpretation underhand should be moved up becasue it requires less overall combat exp.... if i am not mistaking bounty hunters must master the ranged weapons support tree and garner another 40k... now correct me if im wrong... but you only need 60k combat exp for pistol melee.... however we need 80k for underhand.... not to mention we have to master the whole profession if need by i could obtain novice pistoleer in 1 day.. maybe less... BH took me 2 weeks of straight grinding....



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