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Thread: tangle pistols beat geo pistols in almost every aspect

gunner4life
Thu Mar 18, 2004 12:39 am
#14






drummer wrote:

i am a master pistoleer and 2/2/2/3 in fencer . I love PvP and i heard about these geo pistols doing extremely well in pvP most of the ones i have seen are about 2.4 speed 100-180 damage and they go for about 500k to 1 mil that is so crazy. i have a tangel pistol 1.7 speed 190 damage it does stun damage and it slices right through comp armor and looks a whole lot better than geo pistols. i spent 16k on it and it is better and cooler looking than any geo pistol i have seen. so whats up people why spend so much money on a geo pistol when u can get a tangle pistol for like 1/50 of the cost of a geo pistol

but i have heard of a couple geo pistols doing like 1k dmg






i play on tempest server and generally speaking we have been blessed with excellent resources and so the stats of crafted weapons are better or as good as most other servers . however the best non-loot enhanced crafted tangle pistols are like max damage of 105 and all the range mods are negative so against a half decent opponent you will miss most of the time .



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DarthXadius
Thu Mar 18, 2004 6:38 am
#15



drummer wrote:
i have a tangel pistol 1.7 speed 190 damage





No you don't. Tangles with the best resources on my server are 3.4ish speed about 102 max damage. You put a Nym Feeder in there, and that adds another 20ish damage. A 30% damage slice on top of that and your looking 160ish damage. With loot and a 30% or greater slice you are looking at 160ish damage tops, with 3.4 speed. A speed slice on a nym tangle would be 2.3ish and 122ish damage. 2.2 speed with the maximum 35% slice.

Powerups of course can change this of course, but I'm assuming you aren't talking about a poweruped up weapon.

Also the key aspect of these guns is their limited range - 48 meters. Check the rangs mods on your tangle - they can't have scopes - they will all be negative. My sonic blaster has +60 at ideal range. A krayt crafted, damage sliced sonic blaster is the most lethal weapon in game against your typical composite clad person. Tangle doesn't even come close.



Capt. Xadius
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Fight-
Thu Mar 18, 2004 9:09 am
#16

Im still trying to get my hands on a decent gen blaster... please god sell me one. Ill pay very well (Corbantis)




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RylanStorm
Thu Mar 18, 2004 9:29 am
#17

No you don't. Tangles with the best resources on my server are 3.4ish speed about 102 max damage. You put a Nym Feeder in there, and that adds another 20ish damage.

As a master weaponsmith I used to make tangles like that.


My Geonosian blaster is 266 max damage 2.0 delay - unsliced.


It is by far better then the tangle pistol in every aspect.



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Hawaii5_o
Thu Mar 18, 2004 9:33 am
#18

Funniest thread title ever.



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DarthXadius
Thu Mar 18, 2004 9:56 am
#19



RylanStorm wrote:
No you don't. Tangles with the best resources on my server are 3.4ish speed about 102 max damage. You put a Nym Feeder in there, and that adds another 20ish damage.
As a master weaponsmith I used to make tangles like that.
My Geonosian blaster is 266 max damage 2.0 delay - unsliced.
It is by far better then the tangle pistol in every aspect.





Im sure galaxies vary, but that large of a gap - 1.7 speed and 190 damage with no slice, powerup or loot sounds fishy to me.

Some servers do indeed get better spawns on certain resources, but if you watch the trade forums and swgcraft.com, they are always close, no one server completly outdoes another.

A leap and bound different from 3.4 speed 102 on one sever to 1.7 speed and 190 damage on another server doesn't sound like likly.



Capt. Xadius
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RylanStorm
Thu Mar 18, 2004 11:14 am
#20

I don't weaponsmith any more. I have no reason to lie about it.


The tangle pistol is heavily based on Codoan copper if I remember correctly. It's 50% of the final combine. If that is as much as 30 combined OQ/Cond lower on your server then the gun can be massively reduced.


I forget which server it is but theres definately a server which had some premium rate plumbum iron spawn which makes their E-11's almost double what I could get out of them.


If you have a gun that requires 5 units of a resource, you can get away with a poor quality mineral in their. If its the majority of the gun then it's a different matter.


You're assuming that the weaponsmiths on your server have the best of every material that's ever spawned. It's not true. The differences between servers is bigger then you think.



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DarthXadius
Thu Mar 18, 2004 11:20 am
#21



RylanStorm wrote:
You're assuming that the weaponsmiths on your server have the best of every material that's ever spawned.





No, I don't, as I stated above. Differences between servers occur, i'm sure, thats just quite a jump.



Capt. Xadius
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TayTayMay
Thu Mar 18, 2004 11:41 am
#22

my geo blaster is 402 damage 1.2 speed krayt enhanced got it for free



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Squidwalker
Thu Mar 18, 2004 2:13 pm
#23

The stats you gave for the geo sonic blaster are what the dropped ones usualy have. And yes they suck, and I would not pay more then 50k for one.


But, the crafted Geo sonic pistals are great if you have a good WS make them. I"m on Bria, and we have a couple really good WS. I bought one, to ashamed to say how much, that was over 100 for min, and over 200 for max, and I think 2.3 speed. I had it sliced and got damage, and I add my powerup to it, I get 175-358 on my sonic blaster. But considering what I paid for it, I ONLY use it for PvP. And it cuts through armor fast. Being pistoleer, bodyshot3 seems to be best, because its usually the head armor that has stun resist. So our chest shots work great.


On my server the scatter pistals do way way better then the DX2, both being used by pure master BH, and pure master pistoleer. A master BH with god scatter can out dmg me and my DX2 any day. Sadly





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Horniak
Thu Mar 18, 2004 8:31 pm
#24

well, I think my 164-332dmg geo blaster (without powerup) kinda beats the tangle.



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drummer
Thu Mar 18, 2004 10:23 pm
#25

ok people i was talking about all the geo blasters i have ever seen i have heard of crafted geo blasters but NVER SEEN ONE. and the tangle i am talking about is sliced with Pup and the weapon smith sais she used her uber recources and some geo loot components and she said she had a plus experimentation thing on



Rorilek
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JuddaFett
Fri Mar 19, 2004 1:44 am
#26

you sir are wrong. I have a Geon. sonic Blaster that is 1.8 Speed, 282ish-440 Stun Damage (with powerup) How is this better than tangle? With Fan shot, people are running in the opposite direction



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