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RhaOsiris

Sat Feb 07, 2004 5:52 am

#14

yeah we should

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DigiDante

Sat Feb 07, 2004 10:42 am

#15

Randonb wrote:
Just to clarify: With the current speed equation used by the game, after +100 speed, you have achieved maximum DPS for your profession. Pistols do need more speed. If the community agrees on anything, this is it.

Hehe... that is why I posted " anything over +100 is worthless "

=]

I would really love to see this happen... or atleast add +10 in pistoleer somewhere... but then again it would make Pistoleer / Bounty hunter more powerful.

The only way I believe to legitimately make Pistoleer faster is adding speed to Dirty Fighting.

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Smuggler_Caylin

Sat Feb 07, 2004 11:15 am

#16

Our main line defense against pistoleers calling for our skills to be adjusted is the very lack of skill mods you wan't to put in.

Thats why we need to be cautious. Do I think it's overpowering? No, but we stillhave the best pistol specials in the game, and the profession that spends more skill points using pistol xp than we do, does not.

Thats a very sore point for many of them.

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Ternque01

Sat Feb 07, 2004 11:18 am

#17

and very understandable too

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Crillan

Sat Feb 07, 2004 11:53 am

#18

You have to keep in mind that they're talking about putting in a speed cap for rifleman to 3.0 I think. Wait until the big combat patch comes and then everyone will have to readjust what they like/dislike and what they want changed and to stay.

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DigiDante

Sat Feb 07, 2004 12:11 pm

#19

Thanks for your replies everyone.

I was not aware they are considering changing the rifleman speed cap. That is very good news to me.

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Sheeana Secundus - Respec Jedi - Elder Carbineer @ heart.
Raylonis Del'Rathin - Elder Chef, Dancer - Retired / Canceled July 2005.
Leader of the fallen Guild, Veil of Silence.

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Smuggler_Caylin

Sat Feb 07, 2004 12:15 pm

#20

Yup yup, part and parcel to the combat revamp coming after this patch supposedly.

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JawaJoey2

Sat Feb 07, 2004 2:42 pm

#21

I thought Pistols were already the fastest of the three marksman proffessions. Even if the speed mods aren't as high, the guns themselves have much better speeds than rifles and such. Pistoleers are already strong and fast, they don't really need to be any faster. Sure it would always be nice to add a bonues, what Master Pistoleer wouldn't agree to that? But it isn't necessary. Pistoleers aren't a broken class. Carbines and Pikemen are the ones who need attention. Who cares abotu some superflous speed bonus wanted by an already great class.

It would be a reasonable idea to add some skill mods to the Smuggler tree, though. But I think it would make the most sense for them to have a pistol accuracy while moving mod. That seems much more smugglerish.

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realvorda

Sat Feb 07, 2004 2:44 pm

#22

I completely agree pistols need more speed.. but I would put it in pistoleer, not in smuggler. I think we as smugglers should get some (if not a lot) defenses in our DF/underworld lines. but no speed/acc bonusses.

sry if you dont like it, but this is from my point of view.

edit: and rifleman really should shoot A LOT slower. any master rifleman/master marksman with a +5 rifle speed skill tapes can shoot ANY special with ANY gun (even a t21 with all exp points put in dmg and speed of 10000000) at 1 sec.

for rifleman without master marksman its only +10 speed skill tape.

Message Edited by realvorda on 02-07-2004 10:48 PM

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JawaJoey2

Sat Feb 07, 2004 3:08 pm

#23

The skill od that would amke the most sense int he DF tree is pistol accuracy while moving. Don't you agree? That's a smuggler type skill, and it's not important enough to cause a nerf crazed uproar.

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Epitaxial

Sat Feb 07, 2004 4:41 pm

#24

You want more speed? Use skill tapes. You can wear about 8 pieces of clothing with an armor belt. If you stick a +1 pistol speed tape in each piece, that gives you roughly +9 speed. Since each piece of clothing usually has about 3-4 sockets, you can add various accuracy tapes as well.

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OnlyMaestro

Sat Feb 07, 2004 4:45 pm

#25

Logically a smuggler would know how to shoot as fast if not faster than anyone because that is their style...volume of fire over accurate fire. They wouldn't care as much about killing you, as they would about wounding you terribly...either way you're out of the way.

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DigiDante

Sun Feb 08, 2004 12:38 am

#26

realvorda wrote:
I completely agree pistols need more speed.. but I would put it in pistoleer, not in smuggler. I think we as smugglers should get some (if not a lot) defenses in our DF/underworld lines. but no speed/acc bonusses.
sry if you dont like it, but this is from my point of view.
edit: and rifleman really should shoot A LOT slower. any master rifleman/master marksman with a +5 rifle speed skill tapes can shoot ANY special with ANY gun (even a t21 with all exp points put in dmg and speed of 10000000) at 1 sec.
for rifleman without master marksman its only +10 speed skill tape.
Message Edited by realvorda on 02-07-2004 10:48 PM

by adding more speed to pistoleer means that it would be easier to dabble in BH to add more speed to their specials. The only way to prevent BH frm being even more powered is to add speed to dirty fighting

Selusa Secundus - Elder Smuggler - September 2003.
Sheeana Secundus - Respec Jedi - Elder Carbineer @ heart.
Raylonis Del'Rathin - Elder Chef, Dancer - Retired / Canceled July 2005.
Leader of the fallen Guild, Veil of Silence.

Without the past, the future would never happen.
Believes in a better future for SWG.
Everytime a Rollback or Additional server thread is spawned SOE murders a kitten. Please... think of the kittens and stop this erradication.

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