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Thread: Dirty Fighting Speed Mod

DigiDante
Fri Feb 06, 2004 7:38 am
#1

Who believes adding speed mod to the Dirty Fighting skill tree is a good idea?

Maybe even just +5 each tier... That would be a +20 pistol speed to Pistoleer. Maybe in just two boxes for a total of +10 pistol speed. Bounty Hunters pistol tree has more pistol speed, but I believe this should also.

I am sick of seeing a master rifleman sniping faster then I can fire.

Master Rifleman have +90 rifle speed, Master Pistoleer has +74 pistol speed.

A friend of mine has +5 rifle speed mod so he is +90/+95 and I see him actually fire twice a second...

How realistic is it that someone with a 10 pound gun can run around and SNIPE someone one - two times a second?

Message Edited by DigiDante on 02-06-2004 09:20 PM



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Havoclord
Fri Feb 06, 2004 8:01 am
#2

/agree






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Vespya
Fri Feb 06, 2004 8:43 am
#3

As a Pistoleer I would personally prefer them to add that extra speed to the Master Pistoleer box, that way you get a real bonus for mastering pistols. It makes no sense to me that you need to dabble to increase pistol speed, specials for dabbling yes, but speed? No.


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DigiDante
Fri Feb 06, 2004 10:36 am
#4

To my knowledge, dirty fighting is the only weapon specific line not in its main profession to not get an added bonus.

Bountyhunters get insane speed mods in their weapons lines, why can't smuggler?

Message Edited by DigiDante on 02-06-2004 09:37 AM



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Confusion12345
Fri Feb 06, 2004 11:40 am
#5

Smugglers play rough, so that's why they have that DF line....they really aren't SKILLED with pistols...they know how to fire one and know how to get out of some sticky situations. I think the speed bonuses should be in pistoleer.


And I think BH gets the speed mods because they need to be efficient with their weapons in order to take down a mark...if they didn't get any mods for their weapons they would be much too weak.





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realvorda
Fri Feb 06, 2004 3:08 pm
#6

sry, I really think Df should NOT get any pistoleer moves. admit, we got the best pistoleer specials in the game.. with ANY speed mod we would be way overpowered..


can you see the nerf coming?





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Dark_Paradox
Fri Feb 06, 2004 3:50 pm
#7

True but still tahst ridiculous that a rifle can be fired faster than a pistol... and good point about smugglers. We just shoot and hope we hit soemthing, but than again we want to do it fast....
DigiDante
Fri Feb 06, 2004 9:54 pm
#8


realvorda wrote:

sry, I really think Df should NOT get any pistoleer moves. admit, we got the best pistoleer specials in the game.. with ANY speed mod we would be way overpowered..

can you see the nerf coming?






No, we wouldn't be over powered.

If you do the pistol line in bounty hunter and master pistoleer the speed mod is a total of pistol speed +129.

That is a total of +40 speed points from bounty hunter, I am just asking for a total of +10 in smuggler pistol line, bringing master pistoleer + smuggler a total of +89 pistol speed (with the idea of +10 added) and +79 pistol speed for master pistoleer.

Where as it would be impossible to get the pistol speed line in BH, Pistoleer Speed lines, and Smuggler pistol line due to the lack of skill points. Plus anything over pistol speed +100 is worthless.

Would you like to clarify on why we would be overpowered ( in all seriousness, no sarcasm)?

Message Edited by DigiDante on 02-06-2004 09:23 PM

Message Edited by DigiDante on 02-08-2004 08:50 AM



Selusa Secundus - Elder Smuggler - September 2003.
Sheeana Secundus - Respec Jedi - Elder Carbineer @ heart.
Raylonis Del'Rathin - Elder Chef, Dancer - Retired / Canceled July 2005.
Leader of the fallen Guild, Veil of Silence.

Without the past, the future would never happen.
Believes in a better future for SWG.
Everytime a Rollback or Additional server thread is spawned SOE murders a kitten. Please... think of the kittens and stop this erradication.
DigiDante
Fri Feb 06, 2004 10:20 pm
#9

Below is a post I posted in the pistoleer forum
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Who believes adding speed mod to the Dirty Fighting skill tree is a good idea?

Maybe even just +5 each tier... That would be a +20 pistol speed to Pistoleer. Maybe in just two boxes for a total of +10 pistol speed. Bounty Hunters pistol tree has more pistol speed, but I believe this should also.

I am sick of seeing a master rifleman sniping faster then I can fire.

Master Rifleman has +90 rifle speed, Master Pistoleer has +74 pistol speed.

A friend of mine has +5 rifle speed mod so he is +90/+95 and I see him actually fire twice a second...

How realistic is it that someone with a 10 pound gun can run around and SNIPE someone one to two times a second?
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When a comment about the combo being to overpowered, I replied with...
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No, we wouldn't be over powered.

If you do the pistol line in bounty hunter and master pistoleer the speed mod is a total of pistol speed +129.

That is a total of 30 speed points from bounty hunter, I am just asking for a total of 10 in smuggler pistol line, bringing master pistoleer + smuggler a total of +89 pistol speed (with the idea of +10 added) and +79 pistol speed for master pistoleer.

Where as it would be impossible to get the pistol speed line in BH, Pistoleer Speed lines, and Smuggler pistol line due to the lack of skill points. Plus anything over pistol speed +100 is worthless.

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Original post

Message Edited by DigiDante on 02-06-2004 09:20 PM

Message Edited by DigiDante on 02-06-2004 09:22 PM



Selusa Secundus - Elder Smuggler - September 2003.
Sheeana Secundus - Respec Jedi - Elder Carbineer @ heart.
Raylonis Del'Rathin - Elder Chef, Dancer - Retired / Canceled July 2005.
Leader of the fallen Guild, Veil of Silence.

Without the past, the future would never happen.
Believes in a better future for SWG.
Everytime a Rollback or Additional server thread is spawned SOE murders a kitten. Please... think of the kittens and stop this erradication.
Randonb
Sat Feb 07, 2004 2:28 am
#10

Just to clarify: With the current speed equation used by the game, after +100 speed, you have achieved maximum DPS for your profession. Pistols do need more speed. If the community agrees on anything, this is it.





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TempleSacrosanct
Sat Feb 07, 2004 2:44 am
#11

Although Pistoleers are screaming for more speed, this is not the place to put it in. a small accuracy (Last Ditch is a well placed shot, not a fast, well placed shot )bonus at master smuggler would be all that can be asked for being realistic given there are four proffesions that have a pistol certification.


if an expert BH can get it, you shouldnt even think to ask about implementing it.



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Smuggler_Caylin
Sat Feb 07, 2004 2:46 am
#12

Pistoleers are kinda already upset we have among the best pistol specials in the game.


One of the reasons we stil have them as they are, is we don't have skill mods.


We need to be careful we don't jeopardise that.





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Daermoth
Sat Feb 07, 2004 5:46 am
#13

/Amen



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