Pistoleer Archive

• Speed penalty of slowest gun + 50% (if you double it, why bother dual wirlding?)


• effective range to dual wield equal 1/2 max range of weapon (e.g. so it would be 32m for guns with a 64m range, 24m for guns with a 48m range)


• "To-Hit" penalty of 10% for first shot, adding 10% with each subsequent shot to a max of a -40% penalty (reflecting difficulty in aiming two guns at once and keeping both hands steady with each subsequent shot)


• If switching both guns double the combat delay ("to-hit" penalty gets rest)


• if switching one of the two guns but still dual wielding combat delay is 150% of normal ("to hit" penalty get set to 1/2 current level)


• if switching to firing just one gun that is already in hand no combat delay ("to hit" penalty gets set to 1/2 current level for first shot, 1/4 level for 2nd shot, and no penalty thereafter)

• Speed penalty of slowest gun + 50% (if you double it, why bother dual wirlding?)


• effective range to dual wield equal 1/2 max range of weapon with the shortest range(e.g. so it would be 32m for guns with a 64m range, 24m for guns with a 48m range)


• "To-Hit" penalty of 20% for first shot, adding 20% with each subsequent shot to a max of a -60% penalty (reflecting difficulty in aiming two guns at once and keeping both hands steady with each subsequent shot)


• If switching both guns double the combat delay ("to-hit" penalty gets rest)


• if switching one of the two guns but still dual wielding combat delay is 150% of normal ("to hit" penalty get set to 1/2 current level)


• if switching to firing just one gun that is already in hand no combat delay ("to hit" penalty gets set to 1/2 current level for first shot, 1/4 level for 2nd shot, and no penalty thereafter)

Something else - aside from dual-wielding that would be a great special, would be a "qucikdraw" of "shoot from the hip." Basically it allows you to fire more quickly but with penalties. I would envision that it would allow you to fire 33% faster (so yes - for this special the speed cap should be 0.667 seconds) but incur the same penalties I outlined in the "Dual-Wielding 2 guns of the same type except the weapon speed one.

Just my 2 cents....

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GrupertRHD wrote:

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Seth_Ruedo wrote:

Looks like we got screwed again last night in the Dev chat.....

*Remisk* Hello and thank you for making such a great game. I would like to ask if you have any plans on implementing Dual Wielding pistols, and if so, how likely would you say it is to be achieved?... Thanks.

TH: Not right now and definitely not part of the Combat Upgrade, but something we do want to do someday

What is it going to take for Our class to get something... ANYTHING????

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I like this part:
>> ^J^ - *Kadel* as a pistoleer, my profession is significantly worse than other professions damage wise. will this be addressed in combat upgrade?<<

This below really gets my goat so to speak:

>>Keldarin - We have completely re-evaluated the balance of all combat professions. Every one will be seeing shifts to make them more balanced. Pistoleers are not intended to fill a strong damage role per se in battle but they will have other abilities to make them vital and useful<<

Seems the time I have spent on pistoleer has been a waste of time, it seems from the above that we will be a support class. If so, it will be later days.

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Not support, we'll be Tactical Combative.

That means we'll have to use more than Smash_Keyboard_Hit3 to win our fights. And what's wrong with that?

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MisterLeebo wrote:

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GrupertRHD wrote:



I like this part:
>> ^J^ - *Kadel* as a pistoleer, my profession is significantly worse than other professions damage wise. will this be addressed in combat upgrade?<<

This below really gets my goat so to speak:

>>Keldarin - We have completely re-evaluated the balance of all combat professions. Every one will be seeing shifts to make them more balanced. Pistoleers are not intended to fill a strong damage role per se in battle but they will have other abilities to make them vital and useful<<

Seems the time I have spent on pistoleer has been a waste of time, it seems from the above that we will be a support class. If so, it will be later days.

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Now what got it into your head that the Pistoleer profession ought to be a stronger Direct Damade dealer than people with much larger guns? I think everyone who takes the class realizes that Carbines and Rifles are going to have bigger numbers in the Damage table. It's a shame they fire at 1 shot / second too...

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