Pistoleer Archive
Thread: Nerf the jeezus out of Pistoleer!
balance
i don't think you understand the word
again, our tracking skills are NOT the goal, only a means to a goal and that is to kill targets.
tracking is useless if when I get there all I can do it take a screenshot
Why do you think the military crosstrains in survival skills, multiple weapons etc....because it makes a better/more powerful soldier...
otherwise, military training would be going out and shooting cans off of logs with pistols and sending them to war...
wannabe BH? I have BH pistol and carbine IV, would have LLC if they could even be made on my server...would have investigation if there was any point.
All I want is equality and value from the BH profession's skill point expenditure...
I think most people on the BH forums would consider you the troll gopher as most BHs there disagree with you utterly on almost every point you ever make, you never listen, you can't count, and you lack the most basic of human logic and deduction
Sorry, butfellow BH or not your actions and postings purely to piss off pistoleers (dont say you didn't because yourthread title says it all) is out of order. And you know what's going to happen don't you, they're going to come and post the same for us..oh look, yeahI see it.
Great way tokeep professions arguing rather thansupporting eachother and getting something constructive done.
Yyou're small minded, and if people like youweren't around to spark arguments, then I bet we would be further down the road by now giving the Devs a clearer picture of whats needed rather than how powerful we want to be.
Fellow BH or not, you give us all a bad name by bringing your crap to other professions like that, and before you get stressed for me attacking your actions(which might I add is *exactly* what i'm doing)I am a 100% pure thoroughbread Bounty Hunter and not a pistoleer.
What did you achieve by this post? I dunno, lemme see, er..go check out the posts on the BH forum from pistoleers in retort to your worthless Nerf the pistoleers because I lost a duel and I can't handle it post.
Done.
hahah iebo you have got to be kidding me? you have no concept of anything at all. you want to change the entire bh profession. you never listen to constructive criticism. i have a guild of close to 20 bh's on the scylla server. we discuss everything to try and make our profession work. i am trying to make positive steps in my profession. so whatever you say to me doesnt really hurt me it just hurts our profession. dont come here on this pistoleer board and threaten them with crying nerf. you sound like a complete idiot. if you want to get your point acrossfind some tact. you just wind everyone up and you lose respect. i for one dont respect you or your views. they are immature banter. why dont you re-read your own posts on the BH forums. idont see anyone in support of you or your nerfs.
Dezz Pare
Master Plumber (it pays better then Bounties)
Scylla
Who out there really thinks a master pistoleer has a hard time vs a bounty hunter that has only purchased BH pistol 4? I don't, and you shouldn't. Are both capable in PvP, of course. Are both dangerous if you screw up when fighting them? Absolutely.
Granted, BH pistol 4 is super fast to get compared to master pistoleer, but itdoes in fact cost a lot more skill points. And the reality, at this stage in the game, is that a master pistoleer has superior AOE attacks and KD capability. BH pistol4 has superior health shot/wounding and of course, eyeshot, the single best and most versatile damage shot available to pistols. Pistoleers have a much harder time vs doctor/medic mixes, while the BH retains the advantage on those targets with eyeshot. Kind of fitting in that BHs are supposed to be more versatile when engaging anyopponent. Yet pistoleers can provide KD support and has what we think will be a good AOE attack...with disarming 2 already being a nice way to damage multiple opponents.
What's the big deal again? I get lost in all these long threads that discuss things without context. Master pistoleer, then you can judge the profession as a whole is my best advice. Until then, yes, BH is a fast track to superior PvP skill mods and specials. If you just can't wait 'till mastery to start PvPing a lot, start BH pistol and pick 2-3 boxes, then use that to allow you to PvP and continue to raise pistoleer as you XP. Drop BH when you're done with it. I mean, really, as folks point out, it's a skill based game, if you have the points and the time, it's all possible. Just some thoughts...
take a look at the BH pistole line ive seen master BH's go toe to toe witha master pistoleer and win using their mind shot abilities etc. IMO the bh has some very strong styles and in 1 line can stand a good chance against someone who mastered an entire tree based on pistol same applies to carbine(from what i saw who knows maybe styles dont work but in TIME they will be fixxed) and one day the llc will work properly and maybe youll get your humanoid traps
so one day the BH will have decent pistol styles carbine styles a working llv and prolly soem aditional utility (humanoid traps as an example) wich i think would be rather nasty for close mid and longrange support not to mention bh's mind damage skills cand estroy mind and theres nothing my master doctor skills can do about it.
and for arguements sake lets say this all the brawler based professions have no range but deal good damage owever after this patch there a joke anytime they try to hit a player or imperial npc that player or npc just runs away maybe we should be able to trip while running with guns or brawlers should snare us to keep us from moving or get special burst bonuses
point being aside from bugs wich do need to be fixxed in a timely manner class balancing can be put on hold for a bit theres plenty of classes out there who have it far worse than a BH
my problem is that pistoleers ARE and want to REMAIN the unchallenged god of all that is combat AND be able master every other class in the game except BH and Commando.
also, BH skills are not unique to BHs - lots of dabblers..
BH pistol bonuses/specials need to be moved to the MASTER BH box
Iebo ,
Did you read the sticky on why no one was "complaining about BH in PvP"?
Take the time to read what was actually submitted. It's about USING A PISTOL. Not PvP balance. Admit it, to the casual player stumbling into this game, they see master pistoleer and think best pistol user. Certainly it's the case for the rifle, commando, tka, 1h, 2h, etc., etc. Why not for pistoleer and carbineer? The issue wouldn't be an issue if BHs used BH weapons, it's not folks that have mastered pistoleer that are yelling, it's newer members, that can't make any sense out of why they share the title. Not a big issue for some of us, but it IS to many people. I have to read all the posts, there are hundreds of them. If player enjoyment is what SOE wants for their product, and a huge number of players get aggravated at the issue, who's to say it's not a real issue? But if you read, you see it sure as he** isn't a nerf call, or a skill balance issue, it's "why pistols???" And I even got critisized for "downplaying" the issue as much as I did (!).