Pistoleer Archive
Thread: Nerf the jeezus out of Pistoleer!
Just something to think about that someone had mentioned earlier in this thread, I believe. Pistoleers can afford to pick up our pistol bonuses (which some consider overpowered) while they master their profession thus getting all pistol bonuses available. If you want to Master BH you cannot afford to get all of the pistol bonuses from the Pistoleer tree, so it's a bit skewed towards Pistoleer in that respect since most of their good stuff is at the top of the tree (thus unable to be attained by Master BH). There's just a lot of stuff that needs to be looked at and *balanced* (NOT NERFED) in many aspects of this game. And I still think that everything needs to be fixed BEFORE all the balancing comes into play because they will just have to rebalance AFTER everything starts working.
A Master BH can master NOTHING else...they can get like 3 boxes in CH with their 33 left over skill points.
Nerfs are not a solution.
The thread is complete lack of proper judgement on the thread starters part.
if they make a BH as powerful as a Pistoleer/CH combo you guys will be crying foul so hard we'd never hear the end of it
omg all this complaining that you bhs are doing is becuase of the nerf on knockdowns, you guys prolly started the nerf for knockdowns, when tka were the only ones doing it everyone thought they were overpowered, heres a simple fix to your knockdown, use a carbine that has alot less ham cost then you can spam it again, you say that people spam pistolwhip, well i garaunteethey dont spam it with a dx2, they would be dead halfway through a fight if they did, if ther put a timer on kd then they need to make weapons do the same amount of damage during that time which would make everyone have the same weapon that just looks different, i mean come on get your head outta your asses,
you say carbines are broke, that is a joke, just becuase you can spam kd dosent mean it is broke, if you want to kd the use a cdef carbinesure it will take longer but you could spam it again
and if you think that ch was or are over powered that is a joke, anyone was on par with ch, if they had there head outta there ass, all you had to do is kill the ch not the pet and then the pet would stand there and do nothin, i mean come on how lame is that
in the words of my british and aussie fellow pistoleers BUGGER OFF
Should BHs be the most uber? no
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BH's should have a slight edge. and I do mean slight, but they should have an edge.
I have stated time and time again that BHs should not be:
1. better at pistols than Pistoleers
2. more uber than another player who has spent all their players on pistoleer/[insert complimentary combat class here] combos
however BHs SHOULD...
1. Be more powerful than a BaseLine Pistoleer(straight 92 points)
2. An Artisan/Pistoleer
that extra power should come from tools afforded to the BH other than pistol proficiency, because YES, I agree that the Pistoleer should be somewhat better than the BH at PISTOLS but not at combat until they spend the rest of their points in something smart (like medic/ch)
it should have been:
"Buff the jeezus out of BHs so we can compete with fullspec Pistoleers SOMEHOW"
To Ibeo and the rest of the BHs here on the pistoleer board.............
The skill points is the problem with BH and the 1 to 3 k damage shots you get with carbine with your first box in it from novice....thats how you make 200k xps a night with your group slaughtering helpless animals right?
You can master pistoleer in 2 weeks........LMAO not a chance No way .Absured
Try doing your big hunt doing 200 to 400 damage Hot shot all the way up to 2 boxes when you get double tap then you might do 600 points of damage then crawl your way up to stop shot where you peak at about 1k of damage. You have no idea how hard those xps are to EARN seeing how your uber damage is given to you for making traps and camps ! IN basic skills i might add..........hahahaha
once you get novice BH you shoot up like a rocket in weapon/combat xps and you think everyone else can to WRONG ive saw those 1k to 3k shots from green novice BHs in the hunts....and was shocked at the damage they do.......thats totally BS.....that should get a nerf too ..............hahahaha well its only 3x to 6xthe damage everyone else can do at that point in novice with a ranged weapon so a nerf is called for there right ?
The problem with BH is the skill point uber give away of skills ......You BHs should EARN your way up just like the rest of us.........Meaning your chart and damage should be like ours ....a slow crawl with lots of hard work and not spending a lots of points on low basic skills then all of at once your super soldier !
BH should cost 92 points just like all the other skill classes and you should have to earnthe combat XPs just like we do ..with hard work not selling off your skill points ....Thats what the biggest problem is that i see besides skills/defenses not working in lots of classes.and weapons in some too.
So basically as long as BH can buy there combat abilitys making camp sites and not having to earn there combat potential like rifleman/carbineers and pistoleers do they should suk! period
And even then a bounty hunter should not be able to win a stand up fight with a Elite soldier...Elite soldiers KILL/Humans for a living they are the BEST not a privite eye with a few guns and a rocket pak. PLEAZZZE
Magnum PI vs Delta Force Commander...Who should win that fight huh? What not fair maybe i should have picked boba fett..........didnt a blind smuggler kill that guy ? Whatever !
master carbineer/Rifleman/pistoleer should be a BHs last mark cause he should get killed!........UNLESS he uses things like traps/mines/snares sneeking abilitys basiclly getting in a first deadly shot or hit of some kind but to imply he is a better stand up fight against a professional soldier is Dumb....to be able to dothat a BH should have to MASTER one of the combat professions FIRST then becomea BH. Then it would be logical
All that said whoever invented the BH tree was a real nerd..................period
Anyway as the BH tree looks ,and they way it is set up now...realistically it should suk compared to ALL combat classes if you used common sense so BH isnt broken its working as it should!
And BTW Comando should be at the top of the Combat food chain imo.....but there not I think there someplace around Novice entertainer/medic in combat effectiviness so go figure.
To beat the best you have to be the best.............and BHs dont have the training for it!
Ask for a REALISTIC training tree BHs.......Like our's!
(((BH))) the skill point sell out profession.We know so much we forgot 1/2 of it.Duh
Leva Oripa
Flurry server pistoleer/doctor/ch
with ch soon to go by by cause i only got 2 points left!
overhand is unusable now...the only carbine dmg we have is legshot2
and yes, I can easily get 200k xp a night IN PISTOLS..not a problem AT ALL...
Give me a group of 10 on LOK and I will show you how.
Iebo,
Why did you post this on the pistoleer board in the first place, and call it Nerf the jeezus out of pistoleer?
Honestly, all you've done is just tick off the pistoleers with that title, and turn it into a 6 page back and forth bitch session, whether people interpret your initial post correctly or not.The initial point of this thread has gotten so out of whack, that I only read two pages of it before I posted. So yes, I am probably missing some info; however, I got the gist of what I was reading.
The title alone just sounds like a gripe. Everyone knows that BH has some fixing, and everyone knows that BH have to spend virturally all their points to become master, if they so choose. Yes, it does not allow them flexibility. Why? I honestly don't know, but just like Jedi, appearantly, the developers don't want everyone to be Boba Fett. They made that path hard, grinding, and demanding of time, credits, and patience. If you're so adament on becoming master at bounty hunter, go for it!
On the other hand, if you're so dissatisfied with being a bounty hunter, and not like the unflexibility of it, then choose something else. Have another class as your primary profession, and take what you like from the BH class (i.e. dabble). I personally have no shame in the dabbling/jack of all trades aspect of the game. In fact, I like that.
I've yet to understand why BH playersbitch about other classes (mainlypistoleers ormarksmengoing into BH for the extra benefits that BH can offer), and yet, areso proud of being BH, but then complain about not being able tobe flexible, due to the skill points limitation that BH have to suffer.Besides this post,that is the other type of gripepost I've seen on this board from BH players.
My point is this: just stop whining on other professions' boards. I've still haven't figured out why other professions have to come ot other boards to whine.