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Thread: EPulse 3: Cheap Tactic or Tool of the Trade?

Ashtirael
Mon Sep 12, 2005 7:20 pm
#79






Attacca wrote:






Ashtirael wrote:


Whether or not I am better than the next is of no concern to me for the simple fact that no matter how good anyone gets, there is ALWAYS someone better. Getting back to looting to improve my stock, however, is of concern. I have only ever asked to be left alone and will use flight, fight or nuke as my 1 2 and 3 options. Leave me to my looting and EP3 and/or my missiles stay unused. I agree that ONLY using EP3/blaster/missiles/one type of ship/one manueveris rather generic and limiting and foolish, but to each their own.




Big edit - just saw who you claim to be in the other thread, sorry for the wrong accusation. Although I've seen you actively PvP against me in the past, you're fun to fly against and seem to handle yourself fine. Umm, aren't both of your pilots rebels?

Message Edited by Attacca on 09-12-2005 07:04 PM




For the record, and to clear up any confusion I may have caused, My Priv/Reb is Emmexx and my Imp is Ashtirael.


And, please, no need for the sorry. I have no issue with being targeted I enjoy confrontations of several natures, inluding PvP in space. I just enjoy looting SOOOOO much more I truly try to only PvP when I feel I have no other choice. If I have fought with you, I probably did so only to try to get back to looting. Probably died and had to go back to duties till yah left though There was a couple days I was in there where I got started and ended up fighting something like 6 or 7 ships in a row, one on one, each day so I just left When the fighter gets close enough to register on the z-key and I see it heading my way and I aint in my vaksai, I turn to fight. Even with a 100+ engine and 34 spd booster, I am not guaranteed to outrun an opponent, so I fight. Some avoid the missile lock, some don't but get by just fine. Thats why I gots the lvl 10 engines with 85+ ypr stats on both the oppressor and krayt. I just keep praying my 3 lvl tens in the krayt work like they are supposed to work


And thank you for the compliment


Ducimus
Mon Sep 12, 2005 7:49 pm
#80

Leaph, dont give me any reasons to go back to being imp! lol.

I think if Adella and i worked together it could concievably be like the coming of two horseman of the apocolypse. I wonder who the 3rd and 4th horseman would be though. Need to have 4, and name our ships War, famine, pestilance and death

That would be really cool



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Ashtirael
Mon Sep 12, 2005 7:54 pm
#81


Hmmmm, maybe I should make a toon on SS to be a horseman.....


Oh, wait. I don't like PvP that much. NM
Halyn
Mon Sep 12, 2005 8:00 pm
#82






Ducimus wrote:
Leaph, dont give me any reasons to go back to being imp! lol.

I think if Adella and i worked together it could concievably be like the coming of two horseman of the apocolypse. I wonder who the 3rd and 4th horseman would be though. Need to have 4, and name our ships War, famine, pestilance and death

That would be really cool




The other two horseman coming together would be me and Tomo. If you ever see us flying together, be very, very scared.




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Ducimus
Mon Sep 12, 2005 8:11 pm
#83

I just got an idea!

Unfortunatly it would involve me feeding 500K credits to a recruiter, a whole lot of escort missions, a whole lot of networking, and doing nothing but PvP. Blech, im feeling too lazy for that.



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Zhagadska
Mon Sep 12, 2005 8:17 pm
#84

there should be an inter-server contest among the best pilots.



it'd be intersting to see what disparities, if any, exist between server as far as piloting skills go.



naturally there'd have to be rules about weapons and ships to be used, try and create an even playing field, but there should be more then a few climatic duels.





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Waarangel
Mon Sep 12, 2005 9:51 pm
#85

Or we could discuss both sides from an actual Star Wars point of view:


1. an Xwing and a TIE fighter are in a dogfight. They juke, swerve, slide, roll, manuevering each other into position for that fateful kill. That is the role of pilots in the Galactic Civil War. In Deep Space, such a thing happens.


1a. A smuggler ship and an enemy engage in a dogfight in Deep Space. ePulse3, the smuggler wins. Yeah, a bit unfair.


Now let's look at the other scenario


2. A YT-1300 is flying through Kessel when an Imperial Star Destroyer warps into space off its bow, dispensing TIEs like candy. The pilot frantically tries to figure out a way out, knowing they are outgunned and outmanned. The TIEs buzz closer like hornets. "Chewie! Now!" ePulse3. Many of the ships in the immediate area are destroyed or damaged. They smuggler hypers to safety.


Phew, that is more reasonable.


Also, understand my point of view on this. In a 1 on 1 fight, yeah, even though you lose full shields, the other pilot loses more. But in a 1 to many encounter, ePulse3 is not really helpful, unless you seriously need to get away. ePulse3, CSS4, then boost for all you are worth and pray.


Personally, the only change I would like to see to it is that it affects shields only. Period. You need to finish your kill yourself.





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Ashtirael
Mon Sep 12, 2005 10:20 pm
#86






Waarangel wrote:

Or we could discuss both sides from an actual Star Wars point of view:


1. an Xwing and a TIE fighter are in a dogfight. They juke, swerve, slide, roll, manuevering each other into position for that fateful kill. That is the role of pilots in the Galactic Civil War. In Deep Space, such a thing happens.


1a. A smuggler ship and an enemy engage in a dogfight in Deep Space. ePulse3, the smuggler wins. Yeah, a bit unfair.


Now let's look at the other scenario


2. A YT-1300 is flying through Kessel when an Imperial Star Destroyer warps into space off its bow, dispensing TIEs like candy. The pilot frantically tries to figure out a way out, knowing they are outgunned and outmanned. The TIEs buzz closer like hornets. "Chewie! Now!" ePulse3. Many of the ships in the immediate area are destroyed or damaged. They smuggler hypers to safety.


Phew, that is more reasonable.


Also, understand my point of view on this. In a 1 on 1 fight, yeah, even though you lose full shields, the other pilot loses more. But in a 1 to many encounter, ePulse3 is not really helpful, unless you seriously need to get away. ePulse3, CSS4, then boost for all you are worth and pray.


Personally, the only change I would like to see to it is that it affects shields only. Period. You need to finish your kill yourself.







I like the affects shields only bit.


I just had a thought, though after reading your post and thinking back on times I have used Epulse.


What if, just what if, epulse used 10% per enemy of theENEMY(S) shields and cap energy BACK at them and reduce the cost of epulse to what is in your capacitor (stored charge anyway).


Let me explain.


In a one on one dogfight, that awing at 250 or less range stands no chance right now.


However, make epulse use the opponents systems against them. Say the awing has mark III shields and a lvl 2 cap. At most the CapOL4 and shields would total 4100 or so. Ten percent would be 410 damage to f/b of shields. Less than a blaster strike. Survivable, with ease, by virtually any craft and no longer and end all and be all of privateer PvP.


Now, factor in three more opponents. Each of them having 4100, possibly more like 5k. The "new" epulse would then take 40% (10% per attacker, i.e. enemy fighter) and damage them accordingly. 16K times 40% giving 6400 damage to each attacker. (My preferred way of dealing with multiple attackers ) Also, keep the current range of 250 for effect.


Now I am torn between three ideas:


  1. Charged hull for kamikaze attack to limit range

  2. Having epulse only affect shieldsto limit effectiveness

  3. Using enemy shield and cap energy against them


Decisions, Decisions, Decisions.



ShoginArmada
Tue Sep 13, 2005 1:43 am
#87

You know just for this post when pub24 hits, im gonna:


Master freelance on my Alt

Get him an y8

Load up all 5 guns.

Load up on the best pob cap and shieldI can.

Go to Deep Space and EP3 whomever I see and gun down w/e is left.



Just becuase I think these whiners are funny. I bet if the devs added nublas to DS they would whineabout imp's nblast too. Just missle the damn freelance outside of his/her range if you are so damn scared of a epluse.



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Ducimus
Tue Sep 13, 2005 1:55 am
#88

Your funny.

Come to Starsider and try that, please. Put your money where your mouth is.



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Salco
Tue Sep 13, 2005 3:48 am
#89



Ashtirael wrote:


LeaphChausew wrote:


Ashtirael wrote:

Now THERES an idea I like.

Make touchingthe only way to trigger EP3 what counts. It would make using it much riskier, especially against my oppressor

I think that might even satisfy Attaca and Leaph




Leaph = satisfied. At least that way it'd take an iota of skill to use and It'd mean I'd be able to at least dodge kamikaze style epulse charged Starship hulls.

Yup. I even -like- that idea. A SOE developer needs to be reading that idea right now. /wavesbigredflag

Message Edited by LeaphChausew on 09-12-2005 05:42 PM


They MIGHT consider making it a charged hull effect that lasts for, say five seconds, but I would prfer it to be an instant thing. Call it my love for timing or whatever, but thats just the way I feel. What do you think? (And what current SCIFI TV series was the last part of that statement from )





/minor necro

I think you're refering to the Stargate SG-1 episode I like to refer to as the "Fruit loops" episode. Mmm...fruit loops...



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LeaphChausew
Tue Sep 13, 2005 4:59 am
#90






Halyn wrote:





Ducimus wrote:
Leaph, dont give me any reasons to go back to being imp! lol.

I think if Adella and i worked together it could concievably be like the coming of two horseman of the apocolypse. I wonder who the 3rd and 4th horseman would be though. Need to have 4, and name our ships War, famine, pestilance and death

That would be really cool




The other two horseman coming together would be me and Tomo. If you ever see us flying together, be very, very scared.






Does that mean that I'd have to be the lone goody two shoes who slays you all in the end after a series of vision quests, speaking to old men on mountains and hours of meditation?


Btw Shogin. Obtain a missile lock on someone without getting into epulse range and you've just become the best pilot ever to have flown. In reality, the only way you'll obtain a missile lock regularly outside of epulse range is if your enmy is completely inept at flying. Seriously, put your money where you mouth is. If anyone wants proof of how much of an 'I win' tactic epulse is, I'll go freelance and fraps myself epulsing everything I see. I'm fairly sure I won't have a single death or at least if I did that my kill to death ratio would be ridiculously high, proving that this pilot command was highly unbalanced.


The only thing stopping me from doing the above mentioned, is that I know people wouldn't like it.


Message Edited by LeaphChausew on 09-13-2005 05:04 AM

MMKia
Tue Sep 13, 2005 5:16 am
#91






TUMOS_GHOST wrote:
with the new Elite components comming out, looks like i am going to have to dust off my opressor and bomb the heck out of YTs





the only time i have used epulse is when im in my YT on a RGI cause we kept getting blown to hell.




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