Pilot Archive
Thread: UNBALANCED SHIP DISCUSSION
Centra28 wrote:
This thread was created to debate how we all feel about the balance of all space ships. What ships are considered unbalanced? and vice versa.
ill start by laying out the views of most pilots on my server. I would like to hear the thougths of other pilots from other servers.
we on lowca generally feel the rgi is a bugged ship. Many feel the hitbox is next to nonexistant, I do know a few pilots who disagree with that assement. The rgi is banned from pvp events
The jsf, and b-22 are banned from pvp events. Many feel they are unbalanced when compared to the JTLS ships, or are just plain TOO powerful.
Concerns from the imperial side have recently arisen about the heavy-x, and arc-170. One of the complaints being that the imperials have to give up more ships than the rebels. Another being that the mass/handling ratio is disproportionant. They will be banned from the next event, and are currently in discussion on the lowca boards for future events.
The concerns about the heavy x and arc-170 brought up valid points, and evidence about the vaksai being in the same category. The vaksai will be banned from the next event. It is currently in discussion for future events on the lowca boards.
This is a great thread for chassis discussion. I would like all lowca pilots to firstdiscuss this issue in the lowca forums, then here.
thank you
*cough*spoty*cough*
JanuHull wrote:
Claiming that you're a great pilot when all you fly is the Bel or the Actis is like claiming you're a greatPilot when all you do is EPulse3. /yawn
JanuHull wrote:
Granted, but they still suck.Within the scope of the game, they're hiding behind a badly designed mechanic and claiming they know what they're doing. Claiming that you're a great pilot when all you fly is the Bel or the Actis is like claiming you're a greatPilot when all you do is EPulse3. /yawn
Sure, its a mechanic thats in the game, but that doesn't imply its working in the best interests of the game.
And be wary your bragging, no one who's come down on the JSF or Bel have dragged theissue beyond the context of the game. Its not our fault you were born defective.
ShaiLyn wrote:
Basically, ROTW gave a boost to some ships to make them more viable in PVP. I would like to see similar boosts to some of the other ships now. The ROTW method was to just up the mass on certain ships, which worked great for them. Maybe the advanced versions of other ships need more creative enhancements. For example:
- Advanced A-Wing: 1.2 speed multiplier, 500 ypr acceleration
- Advanced B-Wing: Add tailgunner seat
- Advanced TIE advanced (lol): 1.1 speed multiplier, additional mass
- Advanced Dunelizard: Higher YPR acceleration, smaller hitbox
I would make these ships master certs and require quests similar to the ROTW ships to get them. The only difference is you should get a schematic only so that shipwrights don't get screwed like they did in JTL.
Message Edited by Arands on 10-06-2005 04:27 PM
ShaiLyn wrote:
Basically, ROTW gave a boost to some ships to make them more viable in PVP. I would like to see similar boosts to some of the other ships now. The ROTW method was to just up the mass on certain ships, which worked great for them. Maybe the advanced versions of other ships need more creative enhancements. For example:
- Advanced A-Wing: 1.2 speed multiplier, 500 ypr acceleration
- Advanced B-Wing: Add tailgunner seat
- Advanced TIE advanced (lol): 1.1 speed multiplier, additional mass
- Advanced Dunelizard: Higher YPR acceleration, smaller hitbox
I would make these ships master certs and require quests similar to the ROTW ships to get them. The only difference is you should get a schematic only so that shipwrights don't get screwed like they did in JTL.
Death_Blossom wrote:
JanuHull wrote:
Granted, but they still suck.
Sure, its a mechanic thats in the game, but that doesn't imply its working in the best interests of the game.
And be wary your bragging, no one who's come down on the JSF or Bel have dragged theissue beyond the context of the game. Its not our fault you were born defective.
So bragging about how you are better than everyone else in context of the game and insutling them because you hate JSFs and B22sis ok? Get over yourself already. Obviously all you see is JSF of B22 in a post and you focus in on that and insult the poster. Not once have I ever said all I fly are those. My Rihk is my workhorse and when I feel like crusing around the galaxy I use my YT. The last time I flew my JSF was about 2 weeks after RotW went live. I got, flew it for a week and shelved it because I like my Rihk more than the JSF. I have NEVER used EPulse of any form in ANY situation. Once again, you make generalizations and accusesomeone of doing somethingthey have never used. Pure elitism at its best. Practically every post you make to anything about the JSF or B22 is nothing but elitist and insulting crap or a whiney nerf call.
Grow up and realize that not everyone is going to agree with your drivel. This is a game and people play to have fun, not to have how and what they do dictated to them by anyone. You don't like the JSF/B22, so what. Is that any reason to insult someone for having one? No, not at all.
Yeah, nice insult about my poor vision. When are you moving out of mommy and daddy's basement?
You know, you're bringing a pretty venomous attitude to what was staying a pretty civil thread. This leads me to believe you need to defend your "talent compensators" to the last breath. And stop spouting your own drivel about shooting down F/A-18 pilots in a sim or whatever, and you're blind, and blah blah. You can fly whatever ship you want, and tell everyone to kiss your hind-end as you do it. And if you fly the "talent compensators", I can and will tell you what a 100% b**ch move that is. Your keyboard warrior stuff doesn't impress anyone, Son. You could have made your point without being a jerk about it.
The A-Wing is suppose to be the fastest ship ever. As long as the mass is left alone so that you have to make sacrifices to set this up right, it should be on par with other advanced ships.
CommTampers wrote:
ShaiLyn wrote:
Basically, ROTW gave a boost to some ships to make them more viable in PVP. I would like to see similar boosts to some of the other ships now. The ROTW method was to just up the mass on certain ships, which worked great for them. Maybe the advanced versions of other ships need more creative enhancements. For example:
- Advanced A-Wing: 1.2 speed multiplier, 500 ypr acceleration
- Advanced B-Wing: Add tailgunner seat
- Advanced TIE advanced (lol): 1.1 speed multiplier, additional mass
- Advanced Dunelizard: Higher YPR acceleration, smaller hitbox
I would make these ships master certs and require quests similar to the ROTW ships to get them. The only difference is you should get a schematic only so that shipwrights don't get screwed like they did in JTL.
That advance awing might be a littleover the top, though I'd really love to fly it.
That's because I'm a really really heavy Ithorian and I tend to sit to one side of my fighters acceleration seat.
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I find most the ships are pretty balanced (yes even the Actis). The only thing that makes them unbalanced right now is faulty/misdesigned droid commands.
ShaiLyn wrote:
Basically, ROTW gave a boost to some ships to make them more viable in PVP. I would like to see similar boosts to some of the other ships now. The ROTW method was to just up the mass on certain ships, which worked great for them. Maybe the advanced versions of other ships need more creative enhancements. For example:
- Advanced A-Wing: 1.2 speed multiplier, 500 ypr acceleration
- Advanced B-Wing: Add tailgunner seat
- Advanced TIE advanced (lol): 1.1 speed multiplier, additional mass
- Advanced Dunelizard: Higher YPR acceleration, smaller hitbox
I would make these ships master certs and require quests similar to the ROTW ships to get them. The only difference is you should get a schematic only so that shipwrights don't get screwed like they did in JTL.
Can't the squint get some love toolol.
Although concerning ship balance:
JSF/B22- They are unbalanced with Pre-ROTW ships, don't even try denying it. Does 'unbalanced' mean 'unbeatable' no, but the ships have NO downside. They handle perfectly at every throttle speed, have two gun mounts, etc etc.
Heres a 'balance' suggestion that I think is fairly new. Drop their missile and countermeasure slot. That way in PvE they're still basically the same, but their PvP performance takes a hit.
RGI- The hitbox is bugged or the Dev designing it was insane, take your pick
Heavy X-At LEAST make it lose SOMETHING, whether its third gun slot or some maneuvariblity. Eighty percent increase in mass over the normal x wing with no loss of performance is just wrong.
ARC 170- Leave as is, there should bea badge awarded to any pilot that can accurately shoot in it.
Vaksai- I've never seen one in Corbantis space, EVER.
Yeah, thats my opinions on the matter, there needs to be a bomber revamp or something as well though, PvP should not just be interceptor class fighters.