Pilot Archive

Thread: Petition To Use Pilot Prestige In The Force Sensitive Village.

JediNg
Wed Jun 22, 2005 1:38 am
#66



NO x All the prestige points of every pilot put together.



Ritha Egasiso - 12 experiment point Master Weaponsmith.
To BB, Jo-Jo, Reilly, Beano, Dipper, Flat Top, Chuckles, Jolly, Crashdown, Sheppard, Dash, Flyboy, Stepchild, Puppet, Fireball...
You said that humanity never asked itself why it deserved to survive. Maybe you don't?
Stand by, FTL.
On the day before pub 10, jdmaldo said: "for everyone who grinded the last months of their lives away and didn't get jedi: owned"
Washell
Wed Jun 22, 2005 3:43 am
#67

Good idea. Everyone posts their prestige points and yes or no. Then we no how many prestige is in favor and how many are against.

Having seen several player post their prestige in the past and knowing their stance on this issue I can safely say that points in favor of no will easily exceed 1 billion with just a handfull of players

TarkanArrant
Wed Jun 22, 2005 4:37 am
#68






Ducimus wrote:





KaylBreinhar wrote:
If SW were no-cost, every professional pilot would be one.






What use has a professional pilot have for skill points anyway?




So let me get this straight, everyone would be soo much happier if pilot obtained an SP cost, then it would be able to use FS, I highly doubt people will go up into space still because it actualy takes "player skill" instead of "skill mods". This is the funny thing, for the people that are saying master pilot gets x the exp they get I think you're horribly mistakened, tier 4 ships usualy only give 3.2 K, and you guys can go ahead and have fun shooting at tier 5 gunbaots and vettes, or the star destroyer, especialy if they want to go ahead and waste their bombs on it, which I might add cost a bit. Another thing I am not understanding is that I have told many people in the guild I am with that JTL has money to be made, I have told a few players also, for the ones that say no, it's basicaly they don't want to do the missions and quests, some are even Jedi that say that, so it does realy show that no one likes to actualy aim with the gun then just get into range. Now the people that say Jedi in space blah blah, how would they benifit? All I said is to put it in the reflex tree, I said nothing about putting mods in space, when a Jedi is in space they are no good then any other pilot, until they go to deep space or declare at one of the Imperial/Rebel station. Now for the people that say JTL takes no work, you should see how many player ships you need for one of the Corsec MIssions, I have had many of pilots ask me to assist them. If not the FS exchange and basicaly ground people don't like space to the fact they can't aim worth squat, we the master pilots need something out of doing misssions and grinding out millions of EXP. The ideas of ship components, new ships ONLY for master pilots, and a factional/non-faction rank as pilots, or do people think this is not fair?



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Message Edited by TarkanArrant on 12-14-2006 07:06 AM


TarkanArrant
Wed Jun 22, 2005 4:41 am
#69






Washell wrote:
Good idea. Everyone posts their prestige points and yes or no. Then we no how many prestige is in favor and how many are against.

Having seen several player post their prestige in the past and knowing their stance on this issue I can safely say that points in favor of no will easily exceed 1 billion with just a handfull of players





At the moment I have 8million Prestige Points, from basicaly going up on Black Sun runs (of course for the helm), and assisting members in space.



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Message Edited by TarkanArrant on 12-14-2006 07:06 AM


JediNg
Wed Jun 22, 2005 4:53 am
#70

i have 9 million and i've only aced for 2 weeks...

previous to that i had 58 million. my loot h00ring friend had abou 120+ million. lol



Ritha Egasiso - 12 experiment point Master Weaponsmith.
To BB, Jo-Jo, Reilly, Beano, Dipper, Flat Top, Chuckles, Jolly, Crashdown, Sheppard, Dash, Flyboy, Stepchild, Puppet, Fireball...
You said that humanity never asked itself why it deserved to survive. Maybe you don't?
Stand by, FTL.
On the day before pub 10, jdmaldo said: "for everyone who grinded the last months of their lives away and didn't get jedi: owned"
Acacius
Fri Jun 24, 2005 11:53 am
#71






JediNg wrote:

i have 9 million and i've only aced for 2 weeks...

previous to that i had 58 million. my loot h00ring friend had abou 120+ million. lol






And let's say there was a reasonably modest conversion rate like 100:1 for pilot to FS experience conversion. That'd mean you'd have all of 90k force sensitive experience. Your typical BH/weapon force sensitive grinding build will net 170k FS experience each time he caps out his weapons (presuming he doesn't use grenades to fill out his combat experience, that takes it up to about 400k). I can guarentee that your average grouped bol-grinder is going to cap out his weapons experience a whole lot more often than once every other week. If he's got dedicated jedi help (like your sweatshops would likely have),capping out multiple times a day is a real possiblity. And heck, at a 100:1 conversion, your friend would only be about a sixth of the way to having enough FS experience to fill out his trees to go jedi. How long did it take him to compile that many prestige points?


I don't know, I just don't see it as such an awful thing. Even at 100:1, I think it'd be faster for the dedicated grinders to do things on the ground. It'd just be kinda neat to have more options. That's clearly just me though.


I will add that my one real concern would be what that might do to the economy, as you certainly can get cash a whole lot quicker in space than on the ground.

Message Edited by Acacius on 06-24-2005 12:00 PM

psikobunny
Fri Jun 24, 2005 1:18 pm
#72


You speak much about capping xps on the ground, but fail to mention that there is no cap in space. Caps mean trips to convert, no caps mean saving everything up for a single conversion trip. This is a major circumvention ofa design scheme of the Village, thus making the Pilot grind far more appealing. A predictable response form you would be "well implementa cap then". In preemptive response I ask, what then happens toall the master pilots who have millions banked? Many of whom have no interest in becoming Jedi or FS (or already have them),but do want newSpace content that makes use of their prestige.


Space points for space content I say. Let the Devs have the time to completely flesh out JtL, the ground game was nearly a year old before Jedi were anything close to accessible, this was by design. JtL deserves a similar amount of time for the addition of content and expansion of the space environment before anyone can claim Prestige "should" be used for anything on the ground.


I hate having to say this sort of thing repeatedly each time this issue comes up, but if I must I will.





Gilack Mehoipou [Bloodfin]


Quintuple Master- Marksman/Squad Leader/Rifleman/Vortex Pilot/Politician


Made it before all hell broke loose.



KaiRan
Fri Jun 24, 2005 1:31 pm
#73

/against



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KaylBreinhar
Fri Jun 24, 2005 3:15 pm
#74

Acacius, at 100:1, every Ace in the game would be in space.

19,200 xp BEFORE inspiration for a single T5 gunboat. Do the math, then multiply it by 2x, 3x, and 4x for multi-aces. Then realize the xp for a single B-Wing is about 9k post-inspiration - multiply IT by 2-4x.

It'd need to be 1000 or 10000:1. I will lose ALL the respect I have left for the Developers if they cave on this.

Message Edited by KaylBreinhar on 06-24-2005 06:20 PM



Death doesn't fly a JSF anymore...he flies a Gallente Thorax in EVE Online
droid327
Fri Jun 24, 2005 3:18 pm
#75

NEE-E-E-E-IGH! *thud*



Jekk Badlander
Lowca
Commando - Rebel Pilot
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Ducimus
Fri Jun 24, 2005 3:38 pm
#76



droid327 wrote:
NEE-E-E-E-IGH! *thud*





I dont think the horse is dead enough Ladies and Gents, hit em again, just to be sure!



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Time wasted playing MMO's:
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...has mastered the Pilot profession
psikobunny
Fri Jun 24, 2005 3:55 pm
#77






KaylBreinhar wrote:
Acacius, at 100:1, every Ace in the game would be in space.

19,200 xp BEFORE inspiration for a single T5 gunboat. Do the math, then multiply it by 2x, 3x, and 4x for multi-aces. Then realize the xp for a single B-Wing is about 9k post-inspiration - multiply IT by 2-4x.

It'd need to be 1000 or 10000:1. I will lose ALL the respect I have left for the Developers if they cave on this.

Message Edited by KaylBreinhar on 06-24-2005 06:20 PM




Kayl, it doesnt help the argument that you keep mixing metaphors. The Ace bonuses DO NOT apply to prestige.



Gilack Mehoipou [Bloodfin]


Quintuple Master- Marksman/Squad Leader/Rifleman/Vortex Pilot/Politician


Made it before all hell broke loose.



KaylBreinhar
Fri Jun 24, 2005 6:15 pm
#78



psikobunny wrote:


KaylBreinhar wrote:
Acacius, at 100:1, every Ace in the game would be in space.

19,200 xp BEFORE inspiration for a single T5 gunboat. Do the math, then multiply it by 2x, 3x, and 4x for multi-aces. Then realize the xp for a single B-Wing is about 9k post-inspiration - multiply IT by 2-4x.

It'd need to be 1000 or 10000:1. I will lose ALL the respect I have left for the Developers if they cave on this.

Message Edited by KaylBreinhar on 06-24-2005 06:20 PM



Kayl, it doesnt help the argument that you keep mixing metaphors. The Ace bonuses DO NOT apply to prestige.



It does if you Ace eight squadrons and stay 4444 in the ninth.



Death doesn't fly a JSF anymore...he flies a Gallente Thorax in EVE Online
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