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Thread: EPulse 3: Cheap Tactic or Tool of the Trade?

Attacca
Mon Sep 12, 2005 5:07 pm
#53






LeaphChausew wrote:

1.I'm not good enough to outfly you and I can't be bothered to try.





I like that, sums it up very nicely.


And by that standard, isn't loadkilling the same? No chance to defend yourself, been in game for ages so they could have fixed it if they wanted. Keeps you from having to fight the other person. I mean, it defends your position in DS, doesn't it?


A pilot with honor will wait for the other person to load in and start moving before engaging. They might even send a warning tell. A pilot with honor also won't use EP3 - unless of course they're hunting RGIs, then I might accept it.





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Thradd
Mon Sep 12, 2005 5:19 pm
#54

still more interesting and valid points both for and against.


So now let me ask you all this...mostly for those against EP3....when, if ever, is it ok to use EP3 and why? Some have said for killing RGIs, others say for killing loadkillers, some say it's fine to use if you are outnumbered, and still others would say if you've got it flaunt it.


Your thoughts.


And please keep in mind, this isn't meant to turn into a flame fest. I am just trying to educate myself and get the pilot communities views on the pros and cons of this ability. If I want flames I'll go to my galaxy forum or the Jedi and BH forums





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Ashtirael
Mon Sep 12, 2005 5:22 pm
#55


/Was waiting for attaca and Leaph to chime in


/Waits for aya to add in here somewhere


Yup. Know your feelings on epulse, gents.


Been called worse than a cheaterIRL and even had my morals called into question in game, although I still don't get that one since morals are ambiguous and mostly a matter of opinion and situation.


I realize some feel only blasters and the ship seems like a real fight, with occassional missiles being used now and again.


However, again, since they are part of the game, no matter how cheap they can be considered, they need to be dealt with atm. I also agree EP3 is too powerful, but also feel certain masses of ships have too small a hit box and that <100k mass ship shouldn't have above lvl 7 equipment, <150k only lvl 8 and lower and only above 150k mass with lvl 9 and higher. But again, thats just my opinion, like many of yours, neither right or wrong, just there and a nice point of discussion


Ashtirael
Mon Sep 12, 2005 5:25 pm
#56






Thradd wrote:

still more interesting and valid points both for and against.


So now let me ask you all this...mostly for those against EP3....when, if ever, is it ok to use EP3 and why? Some have said for killing RGIs, others say for killing loadkillers, some say it's fine to use if you are outnumbered, and still others would say if you've got it flaunt it.


Your thoughts.


And please keep in mind, this isn't meant to turn into a flame fest. I am just trying to educate myself and get the pilot communities views on the pros and cons of this ability. If I want flames I'll go to my galaxy forum or the Jedi and BH forums






/Agreed on the BH and Jedi forums (BH on my alt but non practicing...Does that make me an Agnostic Bounty Hunter?)

ShadowfireKarp
Mon Sep 12, 2005 5:30 pm
#57

EP3 should be a last ditch kamikaze, and should kill the pilot who uses it


maybe make it so you have to touch the target with your ship sothe noobs loose their "i win button"


basically make it turn your ship into a missile


course i've always thought it'd be worth a chuckle or two too slam into the bridge of a vette after you took out all the guns and shields and stuff


maybe bring someone along to frap it


but then again im a little silly like that sometimes




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Attacca
Mon Sep 12, 2005 5:33 pm
#58






Thradd wrote:

So now let me ask you all this...mostly for those against EP3....when, if ever, is it ok to use EP3 and why? Some have said for killing RGIs, others say for killing loadkillers, some say it's fine to use if you are outnumbered, and still others would say if you've got it flaunt it.





Honestly, regardless of individual pilot opinions, I would say never use it in PvP, not if you want people to respect you as a pilot. I WANT more people in DS, anything I do that's cheap and runs them off hurts my game. The number of split opinions here should give you a pretty good idea of how an EP is going to come across.





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LeaphChausew
Mon Sep 12, 2005 5:36 pm
#59

Look. This will sound arrogant but I don't care. Using Epulse as a tactic in pvp when the Epulser is outnumbered means squat. If I can get along with a generally considered obsolete (albeit nicely set up) A-wing and come out on top from the majority of times I am outnumbered then there is no excuse for epulse. Just learn how to fly better. I'm not the top pilot ingame by any means, but I know that Epulsing won't improve anyone. Ok..actually the A-wing isn't obsolete, but I can guarentee you that there are far more deadly ships on the market stats wise.


Morals or honour don't come into question. It is a matter of truths. If you are a regular epulser, you're not accepting that your flying needs serious improvement. Hell, kit out a JSF with uber amazing parts for all I care. There is no 'tactically reasonable' excuse to E-pulse.


As for not using skills well ok, take this. In pvp pilotprofessionskills mean squat. The only remotely useful onesare /vrepair and /vrepairother that rebels get but in pvp that is hardly used. In fact, it is only really used after a friendly duel if players fight until one or the other is disabled rather than an outright kill. The only 'skills' which matter which are given to us are droid commands and they can be shared between any faction so that arguement doesn't even count.

Ashtirael
Mon Sep 12, 2005 5:37 pm
#60

Now THERES an idea I like.


Make touchingthe only way to trigger EP3 what counts. It would make using it much riskier, especially against my oppressor


I think that might even satisfy Attaca and Leaph


LeaphChausew
Mon Sep 12, 2005 5:41 pm
#61






Ashtirael wrote:

Now THERES an idea I like.


Make touchingthe only way to trigger EP3 what counts. It would make using it much riskier, especially against my oppressor


I think that might even satisfy Attaca and Leaph








Leaph = satisfied. At least that way it'd take an iota of skill to use and It'd mean I'd be able to at least dodge kamikaze style epulse charged Starship hulls.


Yup. Ieven -like- that idea. A SOE developer needs to be reading that idea right now. /wavesbigredflag


Message Edited by LeaphChausew on 09-12-2005 05:42 PM

Zhagadska
Mon Sep 12, 2005 5:47 pm
#62

rename it something like "suicide charge" or something along those lines.


that i could see working out pretty well.





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LeaphChausew
Mon Sep 12, 2005 5:53 pm
#63






Zhagadska wrote:

rename it something like "suicide charge" or something along those lines.


that i could see working out pretty well.







I'd personally name it "Oh dear, that Freelance chap seems to be mad at me"

Ashtirael
Mon Sep 12, 2005 5:53 pm
#64

Again, arrogant or not, that is your opinion and you have every right to it.


I don't seek to judge that.


And I have never claimed to be a PvPer and never will. As I have stated in previous threads, I PvP to get back to looting. DS just happens to have some great finds at times so I use various methods to ensure my privacy there. My skills as a pilot or lack thereof are my business tyvm Whether or not I am better than the next is of no concern to me for the simple fact that no matter how good anyone gets, there is ALWAYS someone better. Getting back to looting to improve my stock, however, is of concern. I have only ever asked to be left alone and will use flight, fight or nuke as my 1 2 and 3 options. Leave me to my looting and EP3 and/or my missiles stay unused. I agree that ONLY using EP3/blaster/missiles/one type of ship/one manueveris rather generic and limiting and foolish, but to each their own.


Also, I have to argue droid commands as a skill since they are of the set and forget variety. Setting them up, ok, maybe, but not the commands themselves.
Ducimus
Mon Sep 12, 2005 6:01 pm
#65

Hey Leaph

EP3 while flying an RGI: Cheap tactic or tool of the trade?

Both are there for me, so i should use them, and people should deal with them right?


sorry, couldnt resist.



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