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Thread: EPulse 3: Cheap Tactic or Tool of the Trade?
EP3 as a style of play? Thats a riot. Ep3 isnt a style of play, its a cheap crutch to get a quick kill - by people too cowardly to really come out and FLY and dogfight, or by people too afriad to lose.
>>i just don't see what some people get so worked up over.
Lets put this in ground game terms.
Lets say you have this uber jedi on the ground, full template, and every other bounty hunter that comes after you, whips out a remote control and with his little pinky finger, pushes a button that makes you just fall down and die, right then and there.
Would you be upset?
Anyway, im out of patience with this topic, and i never had patience for EP3 users ingame to begin with.
Ducimus wrote:
Im out of patience with this topic honestly. I find Ep3's blatant use appauling and offensive. Every EP3 user ive seen ingame was a total ass in personailty that wonders why ppl treat them with no respect or hostility.
EP3 as a style of play? Thats a riot. Ep3 isnt a style of play, its a cheap crutch to get a quick kill - by people too cowardly to really come out and FLY and dogfight, or by people too afriad to lose.
>>i just don't see what some people get so worked up over.
Lets put this in ground game terms.
Lets say you have this uber jedi on the ground, full template, and every other bounty hunter that comes after you, whips out a remote control and with his little pinky finger, pushes a button that makes you just fall down and die, right then and there.
Would you be upset?
Anyway, im out of patience with this topic, and i never had patience for EP3 users ingame to begin with.
Ok..here's what I've gotten out of this so far....
EP3 is a cheap AND useful tool that, when used and not abused, seems to have it's place. It can't be spammed, it weakens the user for a short time, and it keeps other pilots on their toes. It seems that it is however possiblt too powerful. If that is the case, and if it is not a bug, don't hate the player, hate the game. Not every pilot flies the same so it would be in all of our best interests to assume the worst and hope for the best. A good pilot will always be able to outfly a cheap button pusher.
As for people using EP3 "d00dz" I would disagree. The reason being is that most of the zomg!!!!!11111!11$1.99!!! ubah h4xzo|2 1337 players are on the ground stroking their sabers. For the most part the pilot community is a cut above the ground pounders and more civil. Some pilots are just bitter and jaded and should probably land, have a glass of warm milk, and take a nice long nap.
Thank you all for your thoughts on this. /salute!!!!
Ducimus wrote:
Lets say you have this uber jedi on the ground, full template, and every other bounty hunter that comes after you, whips out a remote control and with his little pinky finger, pushes a button that makes you just fall down and die, right then and there.
Yup. How about a brew, Duci? Maybe a jaegerbomb (if your of age that is).
If a game is stressing ya out, maybe a run or a cranking up the tunes or challenging a sparring partner to a real fight in a ring or something to bleed off that frustration. I would ask you to talk your probs out with a close friend, but a conversation that starts out, "I got so frustrated when my pixel generated toon...." just doesn't seem like a worthwhile conversation. 
I usually quit a game when it bugs me to that point. (Was gonna when the rollback occurred on Bugfin, but the 4x XP kept me around. well, that and space is just awesome)
Just friendly advice, Ducimus. Feel free to ignore it
/Salute!!!!
Thradd wrote:
Ok..here's what I've gotten out of this so far....
EP3 is a cheap AND useful tool that, when used and not abused, seems to have it's place. It can't be spammed, it weakens the user for a short time, and it keeps other pilots on their toes. It seems that it is however possiblt too powerful. If that is the case, and if it is not a bug, don't hate the player, hate the game. Not every pilot flies the same so it would be in all of our best interests to assume the worst and hope for the best. A good pilot will always be able to outfly a cheap button pusher.
As for people using EP3 "d00dz" I would disagree. The reason being is that most of the zomg!!!!!11111!11$1.99!!! ubah h4xzo|2 1337 players are on the ground stroking their sabers. For the most part the pilot community is a cut above the ground pounders and more civil. Some pilots are just bitter and jaded and should probably land, have a glass of warm milk, and take a nice long nap.
Thank you all for your thoughts on this. /salute!!!!
Thradd wrote:
As for people using EP3 "d00dz" I would disagree. The reason being is that most of the zomg!!!!!11111!11$1.99!!! ubah h4xzo|2 1337 players are on the ground stroking their sabers. For the most part the pilot community is a cut above the ground pounders and more civil.
False. Go hang out on bria some. Its the land of exploited shields, crappy l33t attitudes, and formerly the happy land of KSE REd parts. I can tell you ALL about people haxoring in space.
You folks can Rationalize Ep3 all you want tell you feel warm an fuzzy about it,(and legging in MW4 is not a good comparison) but the bottom line is, its cheap and lame.
If your going to kill someone in PvP, best them as a pilot, not as a special spamming button pusher from the ground game.
Salco wrote:
I just thought of an anecdote related to this topic; it's from a game called MechWarrior 4.
There was this point of discontent among the player base at one point over the tactic of "legging", the act of shooting out a leg on an enemy's 'mech, thereby crippling them and making them an easy kill. This tactic was looked down upon by some because leg armor was generally weaker than the rest of the 'mech's armor, yet the tactic was also supported by others because the legs of the 'mechs were legitimate targets. Anyways, I just remembered that because it seems similar to this issue. I'm not trying to make a point, just throwing out a similar example to put things in context.
Loved MW4, but by the time Iupgraded asystem that could handle the requirements, I didn't have time for it
And yes, the legs were legitimate targets, just like the arms for those arm cannon fools or the idiots who didn't put any armor at all in the head and DIDN'T expect someone to play target practice with Jenners or other missile boats (MW4's Oppressor )
Ashtirael wrote:
Oh, and give me pilot firing guns on the yt-1300 since the millenium falcon had that (ROTJ). And....
/hijack
during the battle for Endor, the Falcon was fully crewed with Rebels. The only pilot mounted guns it had were the auto-turret for anti-personel defense (ESB) and the Concussion Missile Launchers (ROTJ). Otherwise, she only had 2 guns that needed gunners in the wells.
/unhijack
i think just dropping damage or even limiting the range even more may prove good in balancing EP3. Imagine if it only worked at 50m, you'd know something was up when your opponent kept trying to close in on you
EP3 is at best cheap and lousy tactic, especially in a game based around personal skill. Sorry, I don't buy that it takes skill to get within 300m and press a button. EP3 is, if your equipment doesn't completely suck, a gauranteed kill. Yipee. That was fun. Gee.
Everything else has a counter of sorts. Even missiles, which I hate, take a particular skill in PvP to use, and can be countered with...countermeasures! EP3 even lets you take out multiple opponents without them having any chance to fight back. That's not unbalanced, it's completely out of whack.
Maybe we should startloadkilling are EP3ers. I mean...it's a tactic, right? So it must be fair...c'mon dood! Tehy put it in ther for us 2b ub3r!
It is not a cheat or exploit. It is simply cheap and as I say all the time, a one fingered salute to any opponent the E-pulser uses and also to the preservation of fun in game. Noone who uses it gets my respect. Not that that counts for much, but the thing is, people who use E-pulse come across to me as this;
1.I'm not good enough to outfly you and I can't be bothered to try.
2.I only care about kill counts and fun can go screw itself.
PvP in space should consist of outmanouvering, aiming blasters and taking time to lock on missiles (I don't even us emissiles though) NOT an attack which is completely uncounterable and is basically a death blow to everyone who is within it's range which in pvp...is long range enough.
I'd rather face a bunch of pilots in RG TIES and JSF than get Epulsed.
Attacca wrote:Maybe we should start loadkilling are EP3ers. I mean...it's a tactic, right? So it must be fair...c'mon dood! Tehy put it in ther for us 2b ub3r!
That's inherently flawed logic, because loadkilling is an unintentional side effect, due to the fact that the game is online and is constantly changing, thereby requiring a certain amount of time to load the zone being entered. E-pulse 3, on the other hand, was an intended game mechanic put into the game by the developers for the use of players.
Ducimus wrote:
Thradd wrote:
As for people using EP3 "d00dz" I would disagree. The reason being is that most of the zomg!!!!!11111!11$1.99!!! ubah h4xzo|2 1337 players are on the ground stroking their sabers. For the most part the pilot community is a cut above the ground pounders and more civil.
False. Go hang out on bria some. Its the land of exploited shields, crappy l33t attitudes, and formerly the happy land of KSE REd parts. I can tell you ALL about people haxoring in space.
You folks can Rationalize Ep3 all you want tell you feel warm an fuzzy about it,(and legging in MW4 is not a good comparison) but the bottom line is, its cheap and lame.
If your going to kill someone in PvP, best them as a pilot, not as a special spamming button pusher from the ground game.