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Thread: Eta-Actis II Jedi Starfighter

Vegitaa
Tue Jun 07, 2005 11:37 am
#40






iansarria wrote:Only a Jedi pilot would be brave enough to fly an Eta-2 into combat. That's not to disparage its capabilities; rather, it is a very advanced high-performance craft that devotes most of its system resources to pure speed and power. It does so at the expense of heavy flight instruments, sensors and shields. A Jedi Knight's attunement to the Force more than compensates for these compromises.




Yeah, sounds like something an engineer would do. Create the most advanced craft they can while making it so only a very few "special" people are capable of flying it. Sounds like shottey workmanship to me! LMAO!!!


(Some people take this stuff a little too seriously!)


This, is a game. It is LOOSELY based on the Star Wars films. If they would have cert'ed it for Jedi only the community would have screamed to the heavens. Hence why it is no longer called the "Jedi StarFighter" and now goes by it's official name.


You can base your flight assumptions on the movies or some strange virtual physics vs real-world physics train of thought... but the honest truth is none of that matters at all. The system is in place, these are the rules they have to work within, and in addition they cannot make something that is going to turn the community on it's head.


So, the "JSF" is now the "ETA2", anyone can fly it as long as they run the missions for it. Worst case scenario is you get 200 imp faction points, go Imp, do the mission, drop Imp and go back to either nuetral or rebel.





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iansarria
Tue Jun 07, 2005 11:40 am
#41






Vegitaa wrote:





iansarria wrote:Only a Jedi pilot would be brave enough to fly an Eta-2 into combat. That's not to disparage its capabilities; rather, it is a very advanced high-performance craft that devotes most of its system resources to pure speed and power. It does so at the expense of heavy flight instruments, sensors and shields. A Jedi Knight's attunement to the Force more than compensates for these compromises.




Yeah, sounds like something an engineer would do. Create the most advanced craft they can while making it so only a very few "special" people are capable of flying it. Sounds like shottey workmanship to me! LMAO!!!


(Some people take this stuff a little too seriously!)


This, is a game. It is LOOSELY based on the Star Wars films. If they would have cert'ed it for Jedi only the community would have screamed to the heavens. Hence why it is no longer called the "Jedi StarFighter" and now goes by it's official name.


You can base your flight assumptions on the movies or some strange virtual physics vs real-world physics train of thought... but the honest truth is none of that matters at all. The system is in place, these are the rules they have to work within, and in addition they cannot make something that is going to turn the community on it's head.


So, the "JSF" is now the "ETA2", anyone can fly it as long as they run the missions for it. Worst case scenario is you get 200 imp faction points, go Imp, do the mission, drop Imp and go back to either nuetral or rebel.








someone ask why the eta2 is call the jedi sf, i got that from the databank






~Decon Frost - Rebel Captain/Smuggler/Smuggler Alliance Ace Pilot~
~Lesra Severnova - Elder Jedi/Vortex Ace Pilot~
~Lesra Frost - Bounty Hunter/Imperial Ace Pilot/Ahazi~
ETA-2 Actis Interceptor The Dark Side
The Passion Of Jedi Part 1 The Passion Of Jedi Part 2
(gggggggggggggggxnnntnnnxggggggggggggggg)

Vegitaa
Tue Jun 07, 2005 11:53 am
#42






iansarria wrote:

someone ask why the eta2 is call the jedi sf, i got that from the databank





No flame intended at all bud!


I understand completely. Personally I think this ship is HIGHLY over-rated. If you are a mediocre pilot then yes these ships are what you need to compete in PvP. If you are a good/great pilot then these ships are kinda fun to fly around for a week or two but soon after usually end up taking up storage space in your bank.


For those, not-so-ace Ace's that NEED this for an edge... I'm happy it's there for you. For those of us who pride ourselves on our skills in flight and engineering (loading out your ship just right) then these ships have certain advantages and disadvantages which make them more of a cliche' to fly.


The new Heavy XWing, Royal Guard TIE, and the new Nuetral ship seem to be making more of an impact on my server and it's good to see! Now I see more XWings than I have since JTL launched. The new heavy starter ships help this too. I like to see TIE's, Z-95's, XWings, Red TIE Intercepters, and the new nuetral ships cruising around. All of which have similair mass and performance to these EP3 fighters making them viable options. Seeing those EP4-6 ships brings a warm feeling in my heart! LOL!





There is no peace, there is anger.
There is no fear, there is power.
There is no death, there is immortality.
There is no weakness, there is the Dark Side. I am the Heart of Darkness.
I know no fear, but rather I instil it in my enemies. I am the destroyer of worlds.
I know the power of the Dark Side. I am the fire of hate.
All the Universe bows before me, I pledge myself to the Darkness.
For I have found true life, in the death of the light.


Cutedge
Tue Jun 07, 2005 6:18 pm
#43







Kilarny wrote:



Well, probably becausea lot of players have fundamental problems with the implementation of this item. IMHO the worst problem with this is the addition of quest flags to the certification system.






If it wasn't quest flagged, you know what people would do?


10: create character

20: go imperial

30:do the really simple and easy quest to get it

40: give the deed to other character

50: delete character

60: GOTO 10

Then again, that could be a problem with how easy it is to complete thequest for the Eta-Actis (especially compared to the Royal Guard Tie Figher's missions). It's a catch-22 because it limits other characters from using it, but you know how people love to exploit MMOs in general, and that scenario i just presented would make the Shipwrights more irate about the Actis than they already are.


Want proof of this? You can find people selling Clone Armor on vendors. How exactly do you think they continue to get new sets?

Message Edited by Cutedge on 06-07-2005 08:21 PM



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evil_SOCCERMOM
Tue Jun 07, 2005 10:04 pm
#44

Im still hoping they add the Delta-7 for rebels (along with a balence sweep) then I can hop the fence again and get that too.



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Wolveryne40
Tue Jun 07, 2005 11:05 pm
#45

um there was no rebellion or empire during the time this ship was used. why do you all insist that it should be rebel? its vader's ship. it is he who gives it, again why would a rebel get HIS ship?

His reasoning to give HIS ship to the IMPERIAL is to instill FEAR in the REBELS.

Obviously he is correct, its working out quite well. lol

Bunch of Noobs.

If we want the canon to work correctly for the JSF. then every JEDI on here should be zapped away.

that way only the three actual jedi.. ok two and the noob known as luke during this time period. should be allowed to use it.

Im all for that. how bout the rest of you jedi?

No? didnt think so.

Learn to fly.



He's dead Jim.
VtheDrake
Wed Jun 08, 2005 4:25 am
#46

hmm....Im just gonna reply to the idea of Jedi and FS giving a bonus in space. So a jedi or some FS piloting skillshould exist forbetter manuevability in space?


Well..., if they did that, you know what would go along with it? Bounty Hunting in space, you would never be safe. Jedi already own the ground, thats why they throw in the BH hunt em down lose xp system. Not saying I agree with it or anything. Just saying if they put it in space too, then most likely you'd be looking out the side a lot more for that red dot thats coming for you alone my friend.


As for the jedi starfighter itself, I dont really care. Its a game, I'll play it as a game, you play with whats given to you. And myself I like my Oppressor. So I'm going to stick to it. And if I get killed in DS, no worries, there isnt no big loss like decay or nothing so why complain. Just enjoy what you can. I do like seeing more X-wings and you know the "standard" ships out there, but it aint no big deal, its all fun.
Gaeladrian
Wed Jun 08, 2005 5:19 am
#47



It makes sense that the JSF could only be pilot by imperial since It's Vader who gives it.

And he sais that is his old star figther so you're pilot anakin JTF indeed

Message Edited by Gaeladrian on 06-08-2005 05:20 AM

TheObiWan
Wed Jun 08, 2005 5:45 am
#48

I stated this in another thread, but, both the Rebel Alliance and the Empire can trace some lineage back to the Actis II.


The lead designer of the Aetherspite and Actis II was Halex Blissex, the same lead designer of the A-Wing, an honorary General in the Rebel Alliance during the GCW.


I say, let the rebels get the quest from him. Rebels do the same sort of quests from a rebel-faction NPC, then get to meet the legend himself, and he gives them a JSF to complete a rebel mission.


In reality, the ARC and the JSF belong to neither of the GCW factions. Odds are, you could find them in wrecking-yards or inexepensively second-hand.
Dadditude
Wed Jun 08, 2005 6:22 am
#49






TheObiWan wrote:

I stated this in another thread, but, both the Rebel Alliance and the Empire can trace some lineage back to the Actis II.


The lead designer of the Aetherspite and Actis II was Halex Blissex, the same lead designer of the A-Wing, an honorary General in the Rebel Alliance during the GCW.


I say, let the rebels get the quest from him. Rebels do the same sort of quests from a rebel-faction NPC, then get to meet the legend himself, and he gives them a JSF to complete a rebel mission.


In reality, the ARC and the JSF belong to neither of the GCW factions. Odds are, you could find them in wrecking-yards or inexepensively second-hand.





I think you're on to something here. Add a second quest for each faction. Something like what you describe for the Rebels who want the Eta-Actis II, and allow the Imps to get a quest for the ARC-170.


The problem, I think, is that many people (myself included) don't often fly with gunners. As such, the ARC-170 is basically a waste forus. It is for this reason that I went imp long enough to get the Eta-ActisII and then went backRebel, and also why my ARC-170 deed is sitting unused.



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Kilarny
Wed Jun 08, 2005 9:19 am
#50






Cutedge wrote:







Kilarny wrote:



Well, probably becausea lot of players have fundamental problems with the implementation of this item. IMHO the worst problem with this is the addition of quest flags to the certification system.






If it wasn't quest flagged, you know what people would do?


10: create character

20: go imperial

30:do the really simple and easy quest to get it

40: give the deed to other character

50: delete character

60: GOTO 10

Then again, that could be a problem with how easy it is to complete thequest for the Eta-Actis (especially compared to the Royal Guard Tie Figher's missions). It's a catch-22 because it limits other characters from using it, but you know how people love to exploit MMOs in general, and that scenario i just presented would make the Shipwrights more irate about the Actis than they already are.


Want proof of this? You can find people selling Clone Armor on vendors. How exactly do you think they continue to get new sets?

Message Edited by Cutedge on 06-07-200508:21 PM





Ok, see your point there. However, why does it matter if people are doing this? I just don't see that it would matter.


I did like the idea of making a Rebel quest for Eta-2 and an Imperial quest for ARC-170. That'd work. But then you also need to remember to make a Neutral mission for each.


BlackJango
Wed Jun 08, 2005 12:02 pm
#51

Alrighty...some idiot wrote


"Only Jedi are brave enough to use it"


I'm not Jedi, I use it.



Why are all you rebels complaining? Get a Freakin Bel-22. Dont even think about saying its too hard to get, they are going for 1.5m on a VERY inflated server. 1.5-3mil to much? Go run a duty.


Stop crying and get to work. Nothing gets done when you whine.



*Note*


I know the original poster was just asking a question, but mention "Eta-2" and the crybabies always come out of their twinkie caves and start arguing about a fake "unbalance"





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dfetch
Thu Jun 09, 2005 1:32 pm
#52

My question all along has been: if Rebels can't obtain the Eta-2 Actis, thewhy are we certed for it? and why are Imps certed for the ARC-170? Notice Imps/Rebs are NOT certed for the Freelance ship.


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