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Thread: I pvp in a RGI, I don't care what size the hitbox is

S-1-l2-H-C
Sun Jul 24, 2005 5:27 pm
#40






LeaphChausew wrote:




I guess I should get back ingame...like now, before I forget how to fly. A weeks break from flying isn't probably very healthy when you're me because I'm like Norton Anti virus..I need constant updates and a system restore point created just about every 5 seconds. I am yet to crash to desktop though...


-Leaph /£%ksl***CRASHED






but unlike norton, you are needed.


im like a pirated copy of xp pro, and MS just found out about the hack.

Message Edited by S-1-l2-H-C on 07-24-2005 05:31 PM



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LeaphChausew
Sun Jul 24, 2005 6:44 pm
#41






S-1-l2-H-C wrote:






LeaphChausew wrote:




I guess I should get back ingame...like now, before I forget how to fly. A weeks break from flying isn't probably very healthy when you're me because I'm like Norton Anti virus..I need constant updates and a system restore point created just about every 5 seconds. I am yet to crash to desktop though...


-Leaph /£%ksl***CRASHED






but unlike norton, you are needed.


im like a pirated copy of xp pro, and MS just found out about the hack.

Message Edited by S-1-l2-H-C on 07-24-200505:31 PM






hehe. Norton is indeed pointless.


-Leaph



LeaphChausew
Mon Jul 25, 2005 12:01 am
#42






Ducimus wrote:
This is a rant thats going to make me very unpopular, but, much like other things, i really don't care anymore, and im really sick of the hate tells. So if your one of those whiners on bria, listen up.


I will always PvP in an RGI, and i REALLY I dont care what size the RGI hitbox is. I dont care if its as large as a KFC Chickenspray, or smaller then a pinpoint.

Do i know its really small and bugged? Yes i do thats obvious.

So why do i use it? Because :

1.) i can't fit at least a L7 blaster, MKIV shield and most importantly a L8 engine into a 50K mass T/I. If i could, id be owning you in a T/I instead of a RGI.

2.) ROTW fighters in my opinion have forced the part requirements of above mentioned number 1. If your going to stay with the technology curve you have to keep up. Everyone with a clue is strapping in L8 shields and/or engines. If you dont do the same, your handicapping yourself. Im sorry, but thats something im not willing to do.

3.) I like interceptors for PvP for many reasons. Because of point 1, my options are rather limited since i dont want to be just like everyone else and fly a JSF or b22. I didnt become an imperial pilot to fly the same ships everyone else and their cousins sisters brothers ex room mate in the game does regardless of profession. Wow, theres a novel observation, Rebs/imps and privateers are all flying the exact same ships now. weeee hows that for variety?


So, are you one of the people i killed over the last few days? Upset? Feel the need to send hate tells over it?

Know this.

True, the RG tie hibox is a bit skewed. But your inablity to hit me has NOTHING to do with that. Your ablity to do damage does, but NOT your ablity to hit me. If you score a hit on the chassis, but not the upper part of the ball (where the hitbox is), a hit will regester, but not do any damage becuse it didnt touch the acutal hitbox. This means that I know when ive been hit. I'll get that "SCCCHHHHH" sound and/or my shields will flash. Im guessing 3/4's of you bozo's cant hit me, small hitbox or no. Ive killed about 15 players in the last few days, and ive only been genuinly hit about 4 times. So cry all you want to make yourself feel better, i really dont care. My choices right now are limited to two ships. I either pull out my RGI and dance with you for a few mins, or pull out an oppressor and kill you on the first pass with the "I win" Tri IR2 salvo. Which would you rather have?


So, to my adoring fans on bria, If you gotta whine and send hate tells, send it to sony, not to me. Whining to me wont fix anything, and i really dont care either way. PvP has been borked from misc bugs and exploits a long freaking time, and well, did i mention i just dont care anymore?

So here's a virtual quarter, call someone who cares.

and no folks, don't toss that virtual quarter back, i already know that know one cares for this post. But, im tired, im feed up, im gonna vent, and ya know, im about done. Went around dropping bases on the ground today, and it was kinda fun. Nice diversion.

Message Edited by Ducimus on 07-23-2005 11:22 PM





Ok. Hang on..I'm in the mood for some colours.


Ahh, much cooler...and bolder.


So yeh...I agree with what you say Dum' to be fair. I mean like...if I got back into practice [since i havnt pvp'ed in about a week or so] I'm sure I could do some damage to you with my A-wing....probably not kill you because well, you have a lvl 8 shield and more than an ounce of competence at using shield shunt but hey, I don't care..thats not the issue and if I were Imperial..I'd mercilessly kill rebels in an RG TIE too.


Why?


Well..basically because it's fun ..and this is what the game is about..

I fly my underpowered A-wing rather than any other rebel flyable ship because I find it the most fun...even if it is underpowered...even if I get 'pwned by some Jedi d00d3' oneday who couldn't tell me their ship's basic set up without reading the pilot FAQ first about ships/parts etc -then- looking at their own setup..I just don't care.


In fact...I'm McPondering about going freelance and obtaining a Vaksai and then loading that up with all my best gear. As I see it atm, a Vaksai is what you'd get as a product if a Heavy X-wing and A-wing smashed into each other at high speed.


1.It's pretty big

2.It's manouverable

3.Ok it has one weapon slot but with 150k mass to play with I'll still get about 4.5k of damage with a lvl 10 re'd gun firing at people and...

4.Yeh..150k mass...thats like almost 3 A-wings in there so I'd be squeezing muchly superior gear inside.

5.It looks cool. X-wings look cool...A-wings look cool [JSF really don't ] but er yeh...cool + cool = uber so erm..yeh.


I might even go Corsec so I can be sneaky and switch sides in DS mwahaha.

Hm..I think I just gave myself somthing extra to do. So erm...who wants to sell me a Vaksai [since I got a heavy X so therefore am bugged now ]


-Leaph


P.S


PINK FONT!

LeaphChausew
Mon Jul 25, 2005 12:29 am
#43






S-1-l2-H-C wrote:

the vaksai is a huge target, you would be better off going with a heavy x. at least then you would have three guns, and three l10 gun on ripple fire will get you alot of hits.



just make sure you use a huge shield and run adjust front so you can soak up a couple hits.








To be honest..after reading Kitten's post, it just reminded me about how if I actually did fly a Vaksai or even Heavy X primarily for pvp, it'd go against 90% of anything I ever said before so erm no...


A-wing for the win..in a kind of 'Leaph = explosion' type way.


Thing is...for all the new pilots flaming eachother and overly compensating for certain things with their uber rotw pimped ships...I can assure you I'm having more fun with my A-wing. How do I know? Well simple...My ingame attitude is better.


-Leaph



KaylBreinhar
Mon Jul 25, 2005 12:31 am
#44



S-1-l2-H-C wrote:


Kitten_Starsider wrote:
By the way... I have fought royal guard ties with 3.8k shields, 2k armor, level 10 guns and level 8 engines. It is hopeless to fight these ships in PvP with the intention of playing a fair game yourself. I rather resign and keep up my ideals.
Kitten



the shield was 4.8k, not 3.8k.



I've still gotta figure out how this is done - it's a mutually assured destruction-kinda thing. If a Rebel gets his mitts on one on Eclipse, I'll have to use one to counter.

I've got like 15 full-condition reward shields, I can afford to lose a few.



Death doesn't fly a JSF anymore...he flies a Gallente Thorax in EVE Online
LeaphChausew
Mon Jul 25, 2005 12:40 am
#45






Ducimus wrote:





JanuHull wrote:


OK kids, before anyone starts the BBQ pit for Rapax,






There going to BBQ me anyway, but thats ok. Their perfectly within their rights to, im making a statement that i didnt have to make.

PvP, is screwed over, plan and simple. Theres all three ROTW uber fighters that skew the game. Whats more, win or lose doesnt mean a bit of difference anymore. Vape me all you want, what are you gonna do? Send me back to starport without wounds or BF? Ill try and not cry about that. Decay? what decay? If i get blown out of the sky outside of DS, ill just push my wreck to DS and repair it there. Rebels vary rarely if ever go overt and fly outside of DS. They seem to have this logic that Pvp = deepspace, and only deep space. So they dont have decay to begin with. ANd ill bet you my bottom dollar eventually even the chance of decay from PvP goes away in the future too.

PvP points? what pvp points? kill counts? What kill counts and what does it matter? Hell, you dont even gain or loose FP from victory of defeat in space. Doesnt matter what you fly, or if you win or lose, nothing is ever gained or lossed.





Exactly. Thats what I been saying for along time now. Thats why a lot of pilot's attitudes get on my nerves. Thats why I'm taking a break ..because aside from getting the kick out of flying occasionally and earning 'new masters' their Master pilot badges...my role in the game is more or less non existant. That is partially why I still fly my A-wing and aren't afraid to lose a little more often than I otherwise would utlising a ROTW uber ship...The fact is..It just doesn't matter if I win or lose.


Heh and Dumicus, I know you'd never ask this of me anyway, but if anyone even thought of BBQ'ing you, I'd defend you because at least you speak logic and more than once have allowed me to vent about my random ingame frustrations to you in the past. So basically...you could set fire to the forums and I'd still back you. Unquestioning loyalty...shallow, but brilliant at the same time .


-Leaph


-Leaph



S-1-l2-H-C
Mon Jul 25, 2005 12:44 am
#46

i kindawish they would remove droid programs, balance all the ships, make pve alot harder, delete all existing ship equipment, and make everyone a novice pilot agian.



____________________________
Starsider:
Harotak, Imperial Ace, pilot of the RGI "No Quarter" and the "ISS Enforcer"
Katorah, Corsec Security forces, Captian of "The Unrelenting
Harotak', Rebel Terrorist
LeaphChausew
Mon Jul 25, 2005 12:47 am
#47






S-1-l2-H-C wrote:

i kindawish they would remove droid programs, balance all the ships, make pve alot harder, delete all existing ship equipment, and make everyone a novice pilot agian.





Thats probably one of the coolest things I've read of yours. I actually agree too. If it weren't for the hatemail SOE would recieve if that were the case from certain people [like the misunderstanding majority?] I'd totally be up for that. I got nothing against losing all I've accomplished for the sake of galactic ingame balance .


-Leaph



S-1-l2-H-C
Mon Jul 25, 2005 12:54 am
#48

i miss the days before ctss, when few ppl knew what overloads were, and when rebels grouped up 20 strong to take down the vette, and lost a forth of the group doing it.



____________________________
Starsider:
Harotak, Imperial Ace, pilot of the RGI "No Quarter" and the "ISS Enforcer"
Katorah, Corsec Security forces, Captian of "The Unrelenting
Harotak', Rebel Terrorist
LeaphChausew
Mon Jul 25, 2005 12:59 am
#49






S-1-l2-H-C wrote:

i miss the days before ctss, when few ppl knew what overloads were, and when rebels grouped up 20 strong to take down the vette, and lost a forth of the group doing it.





If they took away overloads, all I'd ask for would be higher recharge rates on shields slightly and like a nice middle ground between non overloaded manouverability engines and overloaded manouverability/speed engines.


In my dreams that is.


-Leaph [ ^ Ooh look, unintended Yoda'esque speech]



Dragon942
Mon Jul 25, 2005 11:02 am
#50

Ok so let me get this straight.


All you guys from Bria are complaining about how space PvP isn't fun any more because its so unbalanced yada yada yada.


Yet you are all exploiting known bugs in your equipment or ships, excpet for Leaph who has some morals and sticks with his A-Wing...but has also stopped flying, presumably because its no fun going up against the exploiters in his A-Wing.


Now if you guys really arethe top pilots on Bria, why don't you just come to a friendly understanding of what ships and equipment to use? Then you can all have fun in duels and battles, and still be able to over come everyone else that flies exploited ships through your skill, since once again we are assuming you guys are the top pilots on the server.


Ducimus, try out the Heavy TIE for a while. It had more mass than the RGI and about equal handling. It's obviously going to require more effort in being evasive during defense and require that you learn to shoot AT the target, but these are things you can get used to. After flying it for a while, I much prefer the chin mounted cannons (even though they took a while to get used to) because I know the shot is going were I aimed.


If you guys are as good as you say you will have no problem taking out the faction grinders in DS and you will have much more fun flying in DS. The top PvPers on Bloodfin have a good understanding between the Rebels and Imps on what equipment we consider fair. Hardly anyone that comes to DS to PvP any more is flying a JSF or RGI. We tend to limit the use of missiles. I don't know anyone using 0 mass components or 3k+ shields. This is because we have an understanding that having fun is more important than winning.



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Ducimus
Mon Jul 25, 2005 11:27 am
#51


S-1-l2-H-C wrote:
why were you only using 1 gun? with a .37 refire i assume you were packing an RE tri-cannon; you would have been much better off with a pair of smaller guns. dual re l6 guns could hit for a combined 3-5k dmg with 20k total mass and the same refire. you could even spice it up with a pair of l7 guns or an l6/7 combo.





My only guess is the powerdrain from the 2nd gun would make running EO4 a bit harder in his setup? I dunno, just guessing.

As for bria, im probably mistaken but lately im under the impression that old style "queensburrow rules" are slowly going away to a "I pwn u" environment with everyone in their "uber" ships. Lots of groundpounders have come up top thinking their hot stuff talking smack, and lots of older pilots are slowly going away. At least that my impression. This makes me not care anymore, but there are still decent people coming up, and i always treat those with civility. The rest ill let drift in space to eject and put on my ignore list.



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PaceNebulon
Mon Jul 25, 2005 11:35 am
#52


ok... I am lost now. I see people all the time posting about how they kill JSF/B-22/RGI in a-wings and other pre-RotW ships and those same people call for a nerf on those ships stating that they are unbalanced. Personally I think you guys put too much emphasis on the ship and not enough on the pilot.



Pace Nebulon+Stealth+
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TIE Interceptor Guide to PvP
"Your generic TIE grunt is just plain suicidal. And the TIE Defender jockey is bloodthirsty. But the TIE Interceptor pilot, he's suicidal and bloodthirsty. When you see a squad of those maniacs flying your way, you'd better hope your hyperdrive is operational." - Kyle Katarn

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