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Thread: 'N00b pilots' who go overt read this..I'm serious [for once]

dogmeat1337
Mon Jun 27, 2005 4:50 am
#40


On gorath, we have a real trend goin that is starting to irratate just slightly, and perhaps u wanna add this in. ( btw I agree on most everything the orig poster has) Seems with all the new guys from ROTW etc, people seem to think it's their right to come up and destroy the ISD without being bothered. I've even had an entire guild plan a guild event to take it down, and no fighter escorts to deal with the pvp... That was fun stuff lol. I truly know how some Bh's feel when they get the hate tells from hunting paddys lol.





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LeaphChausew
Mon Jun 27, 2005 6:04 am
#41






gassygunslinger wrote:

This leaph guy... Sounds like a jerk to me... Like a jerk who is prejudice against rebel aligned nuetral pilots... Like a jerk who probably wouldn't know sheild shunt if it hit him in the forehead... Like a guy whosay would, say, onlyrethink helping youwith a mission toget a Vaskai fighter only if you gave himan advanced X-wing... Would probably "claim" that he was giving it to a friend... What a jerk...





You're a moron. I help pilots on Bria for free. I'm not prejudiced, I'm just annoyed at the state of some poeple's maturity on this game. There was one occassion were I asked for somthing in return of helping some guy on a mission but is that too much to ask? A freelancer can't even -fly- the Advanced X-wing so it'd be a waste them having it. Can I also remind you that everyone here is paying the same fee per month for playign this game and helping other pilots is somthing that you don't always want to do.


Heh. I'm not prejudiced towards Rebel Alligned neutral pilots either. I got plenty of friends in my PA and outside of my PA who're Rebel/neutral. Damn man....50% of the people on my friends list are Imperial.


You are spectacularly missing the point of this thread as I'd exepect someone as retardedly narrow minded as you to do which is NEW PILOTS WITH BAD ATTITUDES WHO AT THE MOMENT APPEAR TO BE FLYING JSF.


I'm merely voicing an oppinion. Its what a hell of a lot of other people do. I mean sheesh..this is the PILOTS forums and thats the point of it. Why should I or anyone else for that matter put up with griefers in game when you yourself play fairly? Answer me that Gassygunslinger. Go on..rip into me further and try and find a valid arguement. I flippin' well dare you.


I'm sure all those which I've tried to help and who have helped me will whole heartedly disagree with you.


-Leaph



LeaphChausew
Mon Jun 27, 2005 6:25 am
#42


Heh...in addition to my post above. Gassygunslinger, I realise from your posting name it was -you- I helped on that Vaksai mission but you conveniantly forget that I helped you the first time round too when you got the Heavy X-wing by mistake. I still hung around to help you the second time didn't I? Just asking for a ship you couldn't use in return wasn't too bad was it? Damn man I even offered to PAY you for it so don't parade around lying just because


1. You couldn't handle the mission yourself and

2. I helped you the first time round with no hassle. I also remember when you said you had to get the mission from the Rebel station that I said "well actally you get it from Kashyk station" but -you- didn't listen and so we went ahead with your way anyway.


Thats trust for you. I actually thought you were my friend in game but obviously not.


And phht thats hilarious 'apparently' giving the ship to a friend. I did. Her name is Akyma Cali, one of the nicest, best pilots on Bria that I know and you can go ahead and ask her yourself. I gave it her because when she did the Advanced X-wing quest, it bugged for her so she couldn't get one any other way. I also add that I gave her the X-wing chassis forFREE after you gave it me atNO profit toMYSELF even though it was I who helped -YOU- on the mission...so if that makes me a jerk, then you really are a strange twisted poor excuse for a pilot and exactly the type I am raging against in this thread.


I'm seriously considering going Imperial now...and probably a server switch. I've tried my best on Bria and I'm not saying for one moment that I'm the greatest pilot of all time....noway, not for a second, but I try and give a lot more than I take and in return I just get insulted.


-Leaph

MDaniel
Mon Jun 27, 2005 7:03 am
#43

Calm down Leaph. I am more than happy to vouch for your integrity and character. And NO, we are not guildies. He's in a strictly pilot guild and I'm in a ground and space guild. I have never seen Leaph ask for anything in return for helping pilots reach master or level up the pilot tree. He's even agreed to help people who have requested help from me when I was already busy helping another pilot (I'm on the pilot helper list). Nor do I charge for helping people reach master, just as Mezzepa didn't charge when he helped me get master the first time around. In fact, I routinely return bank tips that are sent to me after solo'ing the vette for a new master. So, that should vouch for my character...since I'm posting to show my support for Leaph. As for PvP attitudes, I have only just started PvPing and have not run into any bad attitudes. Yeah, I've received a "complaint" about decay on a JSF outside of DS, but it was more of a groan than a flame. And I can vouch for an Awing being able to take a JSF, as those were my first two PvP kills. When I'm overt, I fly an Awing so I don't groan over decay. If I'm helping people, I fly the JSF because I feel it is the best ship for PvE. As for that Advanced Xwing, I can verify that Akyma received it as a gift from a guildie of her's, but I never knew who gave it to her until Leaph posted it. How do I know this? Because I RE the heck out of stuff for her. And from what I've seen, no one should ever doubt her ship or it's parts.

I won't rehash the PvP ettiquete thread, but people should read it.

As for Leaph's Awing, the stats of his ship are posted for all the world to see. It is one incredible Awing. And his entire ship is not entirely RE'd, as I've built some HQ low mass parts for him (shield, booster, armor, missile launcer, chaff launcher and capacitor). My ship has been molded after his, but mine is better in places and worse in places. If need be, I'll post my ships stats later. Point is, people need to learn that if they go overt in space that they are fair game. And more importantly, they need to understand the importance of RE'd parts (for engines and guns), droid programs and ship capabilities. I would probably still be dueling Quinlynn (a week later) if he had shield shunt, as it takes more than two hits for my Awing to kill someone...probably closer to 4 hits. His JSF would kill my shield every now and then and Shield Shunt would save me. Best of all, when it was over we had a friendly tell session for about ten minutes.

Its a game people, try to enjoy it. If you are worried about decay on your new reward ship, then don't fly it while overt and outisde of DS. Get a different ship to setup for PvP that is not your reward ship. That is my goal, as I presently have to pull half my JSF parts out to install in my Awing at the moment. But check the bria trade forums and you'll see exactly the type of stuff I still need to have two completely outfitted ships. Then, I will PvP even more. Remember, no one is invincible and skill can always beat technology. Never forget that an Awing "slides" in turns which allow it to shoot in front of the target...unlike the crisp handling JSF which requires the pilot to actually be headed toward the target. I can say that it is easier to hit a JSF in an Awing than it is in a JSF because of this "sliding" of the Awing during turns. Piloting requires skill, and PvP skills are completely different from PvE skills I have found out.

OK, I've rambled on enough when I should be working at the moment and not trolling.



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Ducimus
Mon Jun 27, 2005 7:46 am
#44



Ramona_Garcia wrote:
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I will be, come puliblish 20, item transfer or no, im outta leaving bria and not looking back. With some restrain in my wording all im going to say is that for a professional pilot (in the SWG:JTL sense) Bria something less then stellar these days.



As an aside, i hate to say this, but a long time ago i made one of those stupid posts i make when im really bored at work predicting some of the garabage a few folks have pointed out in this thread. Id try and find it and link it just to be a smart arse "i told you so" type of thing, but meh. whats the point.



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-TRiLoGY-
Mon Jun 27, 2005 7:50 am
#45


I remember reading a quote from a World War 1 Article once, it went something like this:


"A Superior Pilot, even when inInferior Aircraft, will always win..."

Ramona_Garcia
Mon Jun 27, 2005 8:07 am
#46

It will be interesting to see if overall, flying actis and other RotW ships will hurt pilot skills.



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Alienjr
Mon Jun 27, 2005 8:18 am
#47

Just thought i'd mention that in order to avoid any misshaps in DS when farming, just rename your ship to "FactionFarmer"


I found that it eases alot of the potential tension. Just be honorable about it and stricktly farm. (thats the hard part, ensuring that the person will stay honorable)



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Ramona_Garcia
Mon Jun 27, 2005 8:37 am
#48

Killing faction farmers is the only way pilots can affect the GCW (aside from farming faction themselves). The only people I'd not attack in DS are sightseers in multiplayer ships, or maybepeople duelling there, but surely not faction farmers.



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Envoy3113
Mon Jun 27, 2005 9:33 am
#49

Personally I kill em the moment I see em, anywhere. I've been burnt before by the 'don't kill me please' tells, so unless it is someone I have had experiance with before I'll go in for the kill. Given I fly my B-wing exclusively in DS I don't have the time to react to someone I have decided to give room too while tearing up gunboats, takes me some time to get up to manueverable speed.


I agree though, alot of new pilots flying their JSF and thinking they are invinsible. You can certainly tell who is who. I do enjoy vaporizing people who see me as easy prey though, nothing better than entering a dogfight and outmanuvering the JSF in B-wing, makes me smile.



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JanuHull
Mon Jun 27, 2005 9:37 am
#50

Meh, if its in Deep Space, I don't even mind getting popped in my Nova. I've been out a couple times showing off the ISD to non-masters, even taking a few token runs at it to get it all fired up and shooting. Never fails to please. At least once, I made a run, then saw a couple purple shots streak by, then the boom. I just wish I knew who it was, just for curiousity's sake, we were still laughing our asses off inside over the noobie sightseer going bonkers at watching the lightshow.



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Nox_SWG
Mon Jun 27, 2005 9:40 am
#51

Get over it.


If you beg to be loved by everyone you kill, you're going to be a long time begging.


That's how it is in every pvp game. Listen, if they guy is dumb enough to fly out in his JSF and lacks the skills to keep it alive, you're doing him a favor being the one teaching him to get his head out of it.


Know what I mean?


MDaniel
Mon Jun 27, 2005 9:47 am
#52

Well put Thradd. As I'm on the Bria pilot helper list, I get tells every day asking me to help a noob grind out pilot by disabling everything in sight for them. As a result of not enough of me to go around, I've stopped helping with pilot grinds. I will now only help a pilot complete a tier reuired mission and the two kessel mission. Why in the world a pilot needs help at tier 1 and 2 is beyond me. My very first pilot grind was done solo until the very last tier 4 mission and then the kessel vette (Havoc Squadron). I'm not bragging, I'm just trying to point out that people need to develop their pilot skills better. Don't get me wrong, there were a few missions that took me more than once to complete. But by doing this, I learned new ways to fly and attack. Master Pilot is a title, but not an accurate measure of skill. During my second pilot grind, after stealing a JSF, I solo'd every mission with the exception of the first Tier 4 Vortex mission. The mission itself was probably solo'able until ROTW. But now the first mission point is next to a Tier 5 Droid Pirate spawn point for an asteroid. And in my opinion, the tier 5 droid ships are the hardest ship to attack in PvE...super quick, small hit box and nicely armed. Where can I get me one of those?


Hints for the noobs:

As for engines, the Nym's starmap reward engine is perfect for small fighters after it has been REd. I have mine installed in my JSF (YPR 74 w/ TS of 101 and mass of 22k), a purchased REd one in my Advanced Xwing, a third I bought that I am gathering parts for a good RE and I've agreed to purchase a 4th. This way, I won't care if my engine gets tagged outside of DS, because I will have plenty to replace it with in good time. Another tip, the level 7 reward shield from the same quest can be very nice for small fighters. I have a 17k level 7 RE'd in my JSF w/ 2k f/b and recharge of 14 (have yet to see a better level 7 shield on Bria). I have another Nyms shield RE'd to 1800 f/b, recharge of 15 and mass of 14k in my Awing. ..along w/ a third that was already REd. My Advanced X has the reward level 8 w/ a recharge of 16...and I still have two non-RE'd level 8 reward shields...one I actually bought over the weekend for $15k. Now THAT was a steal. Learn to search the bazaar. I had someone pay $8,888,888 for a nicely REd level 8 blaster that I had made. So not only can you make your own ship better, you can make alot of money off of HQ RE'd parts.

I've only been a pilot for four months now, but I think the main lessons that new pilots need to learn are 1) Be civil, 2) Learn about RE'd parts and which ones to RE, 3) develope piloting skills that involve more than just a nice ship and 4) have fun, and see defeat as a way to improve.

I'm sure others with more experience can add more.

One last thing, Leaph, please vent until you feel better and decide not to leave Bria.



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