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Thread: Missile spamming- what are your views on this?

Aleigha
Thu Sep 15, 2005 10:59 am
#27

I use it to scare the hell out of friends I've managed to sneak up on. I used to consider using it as a "heads up" warning in PvP, but then there's that chaff wastage thing... I'd never use it in the turn & burn.



To answer someone earlier, "what's wrong with that?" is that your opponents chaff is a limited resource that they paid for. /launchMissile is unlimited and didn't cost you a thing.



Fun to play with, but that's 'bout it. I didn't realize however y'could target yourself. Now I'm curious. lol



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pgm2b2
Thu Sep 15, 2005 11:02 am
#28

I never use cheap tricks for PVP, close to guns range and duke it out.


The missile spam should be removed no question about it, as if lag is not bad enough in DS as it is.


EP3 another lame addition to the list.





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WingZero890
Thu Sep 15, 2005 1:12 pm
#29


Wow, I had no idea it was such problem with PvP- Eclipse pvp is basically dead so I havent encountered this yet.
But I do know about getting spammed by some random noob who thinks its funny to keep hitting the 'dumb imp'.
In my opinion, this command should be limited to about 1 use a minute.. to keep from lagging people out.

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Seiryuu
Thu Sep 15, 2005 2:24 pm
#30

I will sometimes use it to paint a target for a friend if I want to coordinate an attack or point something out. They make good flares.

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CNevyn
Thu Sep 15, 2005 2:32 pm
#31

I like the flare use of them.. heh as well as scaring the hell out of someone.. but I agree they should be severely limited.. every 30 secs, every min.. abusers need to be severely punished.

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Rorenikibi
Thu Sep 15, 2005 2:34 pm
#32






Seiryuu wrote:
I will sometimes use it to paint a target for a friend if I want to coordinate an attack or point something out. They make good flairs.




Flares, and it would seem to be a reasonable means of coordinating a squadron to target a specific opponent.




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Zanholo
Thu Sep 15, 2005 3:13 pm
#33

Could have sworn they announced the removal of this command months ago...


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Seiryuu
Thu Sep 15, 2005 3:59 pm
#34

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Slysix
Thu Sep 15, 2005 4:11 pm
#35

Here's a messed up tactic you can use in PvP...
Target yourself and spam missles...

You would be lost in a globe of white light...

The baddie won't be having to waste CM's.
Unless of course he sneaks a real missle in there with the rest of your own spam....

ProCambarus
Thu Sep 15, 2005 5:36 pm
#36


evil_SOCCERMOM wrote:


Goraf wrote:


EfreaK wrote:
I use it as a "hello", letting people know I'm after them.
Works at any range. So from 2-4km I send 1 or 2 dummy missiles.



I'm sure your opponent appreciates wasting several CM shots when you do this too.




An whats wrong with that? I would agree that using it to lag or blind is pretty lame but using it as a anti-countermeasure? I dont see how getting you opponent to waste is chaff is anything but a tacical descision.




I wonder how an exploit requiring no skills, not even being in the vicinity, targeting, etc. considered a tactical decision. Is it a tactical decision to go to a pvp event covert, dry up someone's chaff launcher, then go overt and fire your (or your wingmate's) missiles on them? (Not to mention that with oppressors around you rather launch 3 chaffs/SDs for a warning, and it equals a fast dryup.)

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Supermite
Thu Sep 15, 2005 5:55 pm
#37

Not to get political with you guys or anything, but it is a tactic.


Take the opening salvo of the US army against Iraq. Laser guided missiles that the Iraqi army had no defense for or any way of competing against. The US army calls that tactics. And it is. If you can do something that messes up your opponent in any way, that is a tactic. It may not seem fair, but it is perfectly valid.


It is something every player can do. It deals no real damage. All it does is possibly make you waste some countermeasures. It is just a game. It does not show a lack of skill or ability. It just means you were outplayed. I know it sucks to be made a fool of, but it isn't the end of the world.





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LeaphChausew
Thu Sep 15, 2005 6:10 pm
#38






Supermite wrote:

Not to get political with you guys or anything, but it is a tactic.


Take the opening salvo of the US army against Iraq. Laser guided missiles that the Iraqi army had no defense for or any way of competing against. The US army calls that tactics. And it is. If you can do something that messes up your opponent in any way, that is a tactic. It may not seem fair, but it is perfectly valid.


It is something every player can do. It deals no real damage. All it does is possibly make you waste some countermeasures. It is just a game. It does not show a lack of skill or ability. It just means you were outplayed. I know it sucks to be made a fool of, but it isn't the end of the world.








Nope. I believe you're wrong for the fact you shot yourself in the foot. Iraq wasn't a game by any stretch of the imagination. This is...so the 'tactic' is uncalled for since due to the preservation of fun and in order to prevent any ill feelings/flaming etc you don't need to do it. As Rapax suggested, it wouldn't stop anyone going to space covert, making someone waste their chaff then going overt and torping them. I know that is unlikely but still.


Personally, these days it doesn't hapen much and not many people do it to me so I hardly care, but I don't accept it as a tactic. Blasters for the win.



Ducimus
Thu Sep 15, 2005 6:23 pm
#39

Lots of things in the real world have tactical or strategic bennfits.

If one was to apply real world retionality, then things like:

- shooting at peoples engines to incur decay
- spawn camping to achieve area denial
- Ep3 to obliterate your enemy with as little risk to your own forces as possible
- Exclusive use of Tie oppressors in 1 on 1 dogfights to achieve the quickest kills possible
- Camping overtly outside a factional DS station

All have tactical and strategic value, and beleive me, if a GCW in JTL ever developed where the objective is to obliterate the enemy and WIN - you'll find me being innovative doing all of the above and anythign else i can think of. But last i checked this was a game where the objective is to have fun. If you make the opposing teams life hellish, you may find they won't want to play anymore.



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