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Thread: Becoming a Good Pilot
The only things I would add to this are; a Heavy emphasis on 5.) and,
- Be Humble.
There is a sentiment here that; Pilotsmust have anattitude. There is a fine, fine line between Attitude and Arogance. Arrogance is a show stopper, Quickly leading to the feeling that, you don't have any more to learn. And Attitude itself does not have good conotations, though, when training someone in RL, I would far rather have someone with an attitude than with mock Humility, or, beaten dog syndrome. Some attitude is Neccesary in order to bounce back on your feet and give as good as you get. Not being able to do that means One will simply crumble, or, crumple into a whimpering ball whenever the walls come crashing down. Arrogance, however, means you never See the walls come crahsing down. If you think you are Hot stuff because it only took you a group of Six to "Solo" your Tier II mission instead of Eight... that's not good. You'll Never learn. You'll grow to thinking you can take on anyone, and anything -- Attitude -- but, in reality, you won't be able to fly out of a paper bag with full after burners.
I've encountered a good many of these Pilots both in my career so far. This ties in with Leaph's latest post here. Arrogance in the air translates to arrogance here. A Pilot who knows everything, yet knows nothing,Has to protect this fiction, no matter what. They live in a house of cards. Not only does one's arrogance prevent Them from learning, it can also prevent Others from learning as well. Attacking, or seeking to stifle debate, or, using authentic threads to bloat their own egos. One only has to turn to some of the other Forums to see this in action, forums for professions where true skill is Far less a factor than here, where, it is Easier to Rationalize that one is indeed as great as one sees themselves.
Pilot has been a breath of fresh air, in this respect, and, still remains so.
Yep, sorry about that. Was baiting Ducimus, kind of a running joke.
LeaphChausew wrote:
I don't appreciate that.
Each server has it's own set of new pilots so don't pick on the server I play ok? Yeh we've had our fair share of exploiters and erm..general idiots but thats just coming down to a lower level by saying that.
idolatry wrote:
Yep, sorry about that. Was baiting Ducimus, kind of a running joke.
LeaphChausew wrote:
I don't appreciate that.
Each server has it's own set of new pilots so don't pick on the server I play ok? Yeh we've had our fair share of exploiters and erm..general idiots but thats just coming down to a lower level by saying that.
Np.
LeaphChausew wrote:
Each server has it's own set of new pilots so don't pick on the server I play ok? Yeh we've had our fair share of exploiters and erm..general idiots but thats just coming down to a lower level by saying that.
Any Bria pilot who genuinly wishes to become 'better' in space, just send me a tell or preferably an email and I'll do what I can to share what I know. I'm not perfect but I know what I'm talking about 95% of the time.
You also got to remember that some of the newer pilots are much younger. SWG has a very diverse age demographic and you have to expect different levels of maturity from different people. I'm not just saying younger pilots are going to be immature by default [in fact the most level headed pilot I know is 15 yrs old]. I say this because I was looking at the situation last night and how the pilot forums/ingame pilot profession has changed, not only from a physical, tangible point of view but also from the player base. We're encountering a lot more heated debate than we used to because we've had this influx of new pilots..a lot of which are adding their comments to the pilot forums and much of the time are just being mocked due to their lack of knowledge...however subtle it may be presented at times. I myself have been kind of guilty of this at times...I mean I can understand when some people are just asking for the same info over and over again when in fact if they looked a bit more thoroughly, they'd find what they're looking for in the FAQ but still...I think we got to bare in mind we do have a wide range of people playing here, they all have the equal right to be playing the game and so everyone should be made welcome and from the 'veterans' , a little more patience and understanding should be excercised.
I still do get frustrated with new pilots who won't see reason...but we got to be a bit more open minded even if they aren't otherwise this turns into a 'us and them' scenario and more conflict/ill feelings arise and frankly...I don't want that.
The only conflict I wish for is my ship vs. someone elses ship or my ships and my friend's ships vs. enemy ships.
I don't know if any of the above sounded self righteous...didn't mean it to sound that way, but I don't think I can be blamed when the server I'm trying hard to get fair pvp events organised on is being given a bad name just because a few people don't play fair or just ask silly things in the forums.
-Leaph Chausew
Well , as you may or may not know I have some strong feelings on the nub *cough* NEWships even though iI usually refrain from saying them! 
However whenever I encounter a pilot and blast them one of 3 things happens -
1. I get hate tells.
2. I have time to get there name and send a GOT YOU! /salute tell followed by hate tells.
3. I get talking to them after they die and end up giving them a few hints and tips on things followed on by a few PvP combat classes.
the other day in fact I talked an Imp (Im reb) who id seen in Kessel before, through his attack on the corvette whilst his overt mates tried to attack me on occassion, then later it was off to DS to do a bit of PvP. After 5-10 mins of me and him franctically dogfighting he killed me (a rare occurrence - though i lay off using my missiles) and I did some damage to his JSF. But unfortunately 5-10 mins of dogfightting in a Ywing is kind of hard on your guts and I was nearly puking everywhere. The next night I had a fight with another Imp and though he was a bit annoyed at dieing, he quickly sent me a tell saying he had "Learned that night never to underestimate an opponent!"
Message Edited by CuchulainnDarklight on 08-07-2005 05:29 AM
I agree with Etin. Sending a /GOT YOU to a defeated opponent isonly adding insult to injury -- Rubbing salt in a wound -- how does the recipient grow from that? How does sending a defeated opponent a tell that Will incite rough emotions, particularly after a defeat, help either the sender, or, the recipient, become a better pilot?Humiliation is an attempt to stiffle, and intimidate, it's the sign of a weak person, a sign of fear, and the dependence on others for one's own sense of self-worth. How would such a person handle defeat on their own? By rationalizing their loss? or by becoming a boot licker and groveling at the feet of another? Neither are healthy.
How Should they? It's just a loss. Hold your head up and go on. Failing a mission doesn't mean you quit Pilot, or go to another, easier tree, right?
Message Edited by CuchulainnDarklight on 08-07-2005 05:16 AM
CuchulainnDarklight wrote:
2. I have time to get there name and send a GOT YOU! /salute tell followed by hate tells.
A tell like that, when you're the winner, will invariably lead to hate tells.
Do you PvP on the ground? It's like being SF and easily defeating your opponent and then sending them a "good fight" /tell. It obviously wasn't a good fight for him since he lost.
Sending a "got you" (in caps, no less)
just comes across as annoying.. I'm pretty sure he already knows you "got him".Maybe I'm just lucky or I don't antagonize people, but I've never gotten a hate tell in PvP - ground or space.
HewerofWood wrote:
I agree with Etin. Sending a /GOT YOU to a defeated opponent isonly adding insult to injury -- Rubbing salt in a wound -- how does the recipient grow from that? How does sending a defeated opponent a tell that Will incite rough emotions, particularly after a defeat, help either the sender, or, the recipient, become a better pilot?Humiliation is an attempt to stiffle, and intimidate, it's the sign of a weak person, a sign of fear, and the dependence on others for one's own sense of self-worth. How would such a person handle defeat on their own? By rationalizing their loss? or by becoming a boot licker and groveling at the feet of another? Neither are healthy.
How Should they? It's just a loss. Hold your head up and go on. Failing a mission doesn't mean you quit Pilot, or go to another, easier tree, right?
Plus, a lot of the time return tells are of the "F*ck you you f*cking cheater, no way can a X (or Y) kill a JSF you c*nt!" etc etc.
Sending a /tell <insert enemy name> Got you! /salute
is not in any way offensive, it is purely informative.
Message Edited by CuchulainnDarklight on 08-07-2005 06:58 AM
I tend not to say anything at all. If someone is got by me..well they know that when they spawn back at their nearest repair station..
My general rule is, I let them see me first most of the time and then react accordingly.
-Leaph