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Thread: Imp pilots on Starsider: what's the story?
One common concensus amongst those that ive talked with is thing will pick up once they start flying again. Which, in a way, i think is a bad thing if motivation and particpation hinges on the particpation of 1 or 2 individuals.
EDIT:
>> what I was talking about is an uncanny ability to kill moral that some of the Imp vets seem to have
People take note:
Attitudes are contagious and if your in a postion where people look up to you, you have to keep your schitt squared away publicly. (whine all you want to in private, but never infront of the troops)
Message Edited by Ducimus on 09-12-2005 12:57 PM
Who are the major point of contacts or flight coordinators for the imperials? What is the current network that comprises of the imprial players? How are they communicating? Through whom or what organization? Does any formal organization exist?
A few ideas just hit me, but i want to get a feel for the network that exists before i let myself think about it any further. Right now organization (fixing/creating/helping/etc) intrests me more than flying beleive it or not. Maybe i just need a break from flying, and a new pet project to work on.
Message Edited by Ducimus on 09-13-2005 02:01 AM
Ducimus wrote:
I have more questions:
Who are the major point of contacts or flight coordinators for the imperials? What is the current network that comprises of the imprial players? How are they communicating? Through whom or what organization? Does any formal organization exist?
A few ideas just hit me, but i want to get a feel for the network that exists before i let myself think about it any further. Right now organization (fixing/creating/helping/etc) intrests me more than flying beleive it or not. Maybe i just need a break from flying, and a new pet project to work on.Message Edited by Ducimus on 09-13-2005 02:01 AM
There is a chat channel set aside. It is starting to see more action now that our chat windows do not disappear all the time. There is also a mailing list maintained by a few people. Both are used to notify people of activities in DS as well as people needing help. I expect the chat channel to start seeing more action as time goes on.
You also have to keep in mind that the vast majority of pilots do not seem interested in PvP for some reason. In any way shape or form. Some of that may be because they, mistakenly, think it will be just as bad as the ground game with one class dominating and everyone (including that class) complaining, whining, accusing and whatever else they can do to avoid the fact that at one point in time someone else was better/luckier/more organized than they were.
So how many cpu do the best crafted starship components sell for on Starsider? How about a good re'd lvl 10 weapon? What about a good re'd borstel blaster job? Or Pre-Nerf DI's? Just curious 
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Fuss Bango
CastorHoS wrote:
Well from being an Imp from day 1 on Starsider let me give you a quick overview of why the Imp population and turnout for things are so low in space.
1. Lack of interest.
2. Way to many "l33t" and "uber" kiddies like to ruin things from the rebel side.
3. Part of the Imp problem results from number 2 only the problem being the "l33t" and "uber" kiddies on the Imp side throw a fit and dont want anything to do with pvp unless they've got overwhelming odds in thier favor.
Now these dont pertain to everyone in each faction but theyve been the same problems there always have been on Starsider. Only difference is its now space instead of ground pvp. My last trip into Deep Space consisted of zoning and being dead from 5 ships I never got to see sitting and waiting for imp ships to fly in. Makes even going to Deep Space useless.
These are all reasons why most of the imp pilots I know have either decided to just keep grinding the various pilot factions or load up PoB ships and have fun in pve with guildmates or friends and let the rebels see how much fundeep space is when theres only npc's to fight.
Message Edited by CastorHoS on 09-12-2005 11:31 AM
Who are the l337 and uber kiddies on the Rebel side? To be honest, I find everyone I meet on starsider to be rather mature. The only 'L337' person I met so far I simply avoid and they don't go to the events anyway.
As for five ships waiting in DS, when did that happen? I'm there a lot of the time and I very rarely see -anyone- regardless of faction. In fact, it has become so quiet there now that even if I do see an Imperial, I'll ignore them until I hear the beep and they attack me first.
I know it may be a 'sore' issue but the main thing I've been hearing (understand I am still rather fresh to this server) is that the Imperials apparently keep on complaining about rebels targetting engines etc when that doesn't happen as far as I am aware. I also find it funny that I hear that the Rebels, when they used to be regularly outnumbered and have their rears handed to them, they seemed to live with it and hell, Halyn is the main organiser for these events. He is Rebel and continued despite this situation but to get back on track, over the last few weeks the Imperials havn't had many pilots. That is unfortunate and to be honest, I'd love to be on the outnumbered side...it makes more sense etc 'canon' wise, but what I have been hearing is that the Rebels have been accused of load killing, ganking etc and if anything, it has been from the Imperial side that I've been witnessing the griefing coming from.
I personally think, both sides need to assess the situation. I think that the last few missions have been a little 'too' complicated i.e POB ship duels other POB ship, everything else is just declared and cannot defend their own POB ship etc etc so I think it'd be healthy for maybe the next few events to just be simple killfests.
a. Choose system
b. Designate safe hyper points and declaring points
c.Fight for however long
d.No coming back in the last ten minutes as usual
Then after few of these, hopefully numbers will be back up and things can be taken from there.
I know I'm going off on one here, but I just kind of feel it is silly. Over TS, I'm hearing from fellow Rebels that the Imperials, whenever theysuffer a defeat, they then publish on their website (I'm not sure what its called but /shrug) that they had a victory. Well here is an eye opener to all Rebels with the oppinion that that is stupid...that website is obviously roleplay driven and of course the Empire will put out propaganda. That is what they're supposed to do and I myself, find it kind of cool.
Frankly, I think the idea of having a winner or loser in these events is foolish anyway. Which side performs best on whatever night is obvious at the timesimply by theamount of times they're wiped out of the system etc and have to come back. The actual long term goals of an event should be very ambiguous. I mean, open ended so that regardless of who 'wins' the story can continue anyway.Large pvp battles are impersonal. You get killed, you make kills etc...it is not an egofest. In fact, having such a huge 'Hey I'm the greatest of all time' ego is pathetic in a game anyway. In fact, its pathetic in real life too. The onyl time when it is funny is well when it is being used comically.
Personally, with the 'GCW' being so open ended and hey, lets be honest. It isn't exactly going to end and as players we have no effect over the outcome anyway. We all know that the Empire dies in the end anyway. All we can do and this is the important part, is play out our space combat with the aim of just having fun. Hell, on my first two events on Starsider, I was ganked and it was great! In fact my only realistic goal during events and in fact, whenever I pvp is to see how long I can survive.
As much as I like A-wings etc and how my main toon will always be Rebel, it cannot be denied that the Imperial navy was way, way cooler than the Rebels. Here is why;
- Their Leader was a crazy guy with a hilarious accentand a Samurai Warrior complex.
- Their navy was just so much cooler
- Flightsuits in the Imperial navy looked half believeable
- Baron Soontir Fel
- TIE Interceptors
- That first scene in a New Hope when the seemingly never ending ISD 'scrolls' into view.
- Many more reasons.
But yeh, I am higly surprised that we don't see a way higher percentage of Imperial pilots with more organised squadrons. If this persists, I may well have to go Imperial for a while and be outnumbered 
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I apologise for the extent of this post and the wild tangential chatter it consists of, however I just needed to say that.
I like Starsider. It is without a doubt, the best server I played on. The people are generally cool, the loot drops in space seem to like me and the coffee is good. I'll do what I can to help whichever side get things back on track because it is really worth saving.
In addition, hey Hal, if you're reading this...this is the pre-cursor of Rapaxgoing Imperial. Rapax, I know you will end up going Imperial so don't deny it . If I'm wrong, I owe you both 200k credits and a lvl 10 weapon.
Message Edited by LeaphChausew on 09-13-2005 05:55 AM
Got a time frame on that? After all, if it's eight months from now, does it still count?
LeaphChausew wrote:
In addition, hey Hal, if you're reading this...this is the pre-cursor of Rapaxgoing Imperial. Rapax, I know you will end up going Imperial so don't deny it
"--Michael Stackpole, RS IRC
As far as Rapax, I was hoping he would go freelance and lead a freelance coalition that would swing to whichever side was lower on numbers. And Rapax, the reason so many know you and think well of you is because you are so active on the forums with good info. Active forum posters often have a bigger influence than they might think.
Jawa-Sith-Lord wrote:
I would not over react and think that the Imp side is hemoraging or something. We are in a slump for numbers right now. That happens sometimes. A few of the people that have said they will be making alts may make a huge difference in a few weeks (depending on how much time they tear away from their mains). That may be enough to even things out for a while. If any of them need help with missions, give me a call. I don't have a two seater and can't power level. But, I can definitely help out with missions. They break the monotony of grinding tier 4.
As far as Rapax, I was hoping he would go freelance and lead a freelance coalition that would swing to whichever side was lower on numbers. And Rapax, the reason so many know you and think well of you is because you are so active on the forums with good info. Active forum posters often have a bigger influence than they might think.
Well I wouldn't be surprised that when Tomo gets back etc, along with Harotak, that more people are inspired to fly and that the Rebels start losing a lot more. I mean, hell the Rebels have only had a few victories and they weren't really what I'd call rolling triumphs simply becausethe Empire had no chance due to not only lesser numbers, but few experienced pilots too.
Ducimus wrote:
Yes, everyone should come to Starsider and watch me make a fool of myself when flying an xwing!
Or better yet,
Come one, come all, come see the mutant pilot! Thats right ladies and gents, this freak of nature is the games first Freelance rebel Imperial pilot! Thats right, this freak does them all!
/sells tickets
Whoa! That's the worst bug I've heard of...
So in DS, which faction is red to you? hehehe.
Halyn wrote:
Got a time frame on that? After all, if it's eight months from now, does it still count?
LeaphChausew wrote:
In addition, hey Hal, if you're reading this...this is the pre-cursor of Rapaxgoing Imperial. Rapax, I know you will end up going Imperial so don't deny it
LOL.
I dont know honestly, im trying to get a feel to see if theres anythign i can do to help.
In all reality i know that if im rebel or imperial in profession, it won't make any difference because i have some odd funky play hours and im rarely logged in on weekends.
But i have to be honest, i have always dreamed of an kick ass imperial flight unit. Part of me doesnt want to try, because its alot of work, but the other part of me pictures a line of pilots in full tie figher regellia from boot to gloves in formation before a launch into some space event and kicking some buttocks!
I beleive i have the experience to make that happen, but i question if i have the time, or am willing enough to accomplish that.
Jawa-Sith-Lord wrote:
As far as Rapax, I was hoping he would go freelance and lead a freelance coalition that would swing to whichever side was lower on numbers. And Rapax, the reason so many know you and think well of you is because you are so active on the forums with good info. Active forum posters often have a bigger influence than they might think.
Thats still a possiblity. I think one reason i gave that up is because i honestly dont like PvPing in freelance ships. I would very much be inspired to use Post ROTW ships like a JSF or bell22 - everythign else is too large in profile to my liking. I do suppose a heavy syck though is worth more consideration.
I think im going to give this more thought, maybe fit out a heavy syck and see how i like it. Soemthing i was going to do earlier, but got caught up in moving to SS instead.
Message Edited by Ducimus on 09-13-2005 09:54 AM