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Thread: What sort of attitude do you adopt?

HewerofWood
Mon Aug 01, 2005 4:19 pm
#14

I have discovered that I am.... Number 3!


I engaged in my first, true, PvP Deep Space Battle yesterday, and one this morning. Killing off Imp Ships, hitting Target Next Enemy Player every few seconds, My belly immediately notified my brain that something was up. Player. Enemy. 2K off, and moving. Instant Evasive action, instant, borderline shakes. Turned. Made for him. No straight lines, I was buzzing. No idea in my head. Enemy, Danger. Was all I registered. It was a Bel, grievous. And It was closing. Or, I was.


600 Meters I knew it was about to die. Soft pedaling, taking down a Y-Wing, no sign it was aware another player was even in the same space, let alone, declared, and barreling down on it's backside. REticle pops, just as I'm firing, One shot as I pass, Engines Targeted. Dead in the water. Buzz by and rapid fly back, All that is still in my head is ... Eliminate the threat. I have a YT, Full, inbound to DS, Young Pilot Staffed. This guy flares in two more hits, one more flyby at full speed.



Second one this morning, JSF, same thing. Same feelings, same pattern, only, this one notices me early, by 500 meters it's a chase. He's running. I had time to think... JSF. But it's hardening. And, it's still a threat. Don't know, have to act. Hit. Hit. Hit. Targetting Engines, I've clipped him. We're into evades. I have time to think, "His PYR sucks". His turns aren't right, something's wrong, but I'm clipping him, no heavy hits. He doesn't get a shot off. I've lost him, wound around, on his back and Engines are down. He's dead in the water, and one number is reading 53%, System or Chasis. I'm peeling, turning, I can't see him. 50 Meters,it says, I fire on something. No Flare.I can't find him, Target is there but, he's gone, and target pops. Clear. He's Jumped, or... He's just gone. But, he doesn't come back, Neither of them do.


I didn't have an attitude, when I saw them, not that I could trace. Unless that attitude was Let's go. Time to Move. I did, and two farmers were gone.



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Bawarr
Mon Aug 01, 2005 4:21 pm
#15

#3 i couldnt give a hoot what someone else thinks/flies, i just launch and have fun.

(if you havent guessed im not a PvP'er )





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Ducimus
Mon Aug 01, 2005 4:37 pm
#16

What i was thinking about was the mental attitude you get yourself into, before the fight even engages.

Once the fight is on, all there is, is split second decisions and emotions you keep bottled up to one side.

But to me, fear is an ally. Keeps me on my toes, less i become complacent; and theres one thing that life has taught me, is that complacency kills. Granted this is just a game, but that thought is engrained into me and tends to stick in the back of my mind in just about everything i do. Old habits die hard i guess.



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Bawarr
Mon Aug 01, 2005 4:40 pm
#17

In that case...when i go to DS i go to kill hard groups (corvette squadrons etc) if i get into PvP i usually only know about it when im dead. Anyway the last 20-30 hours ive spent in DS i only saw one other pilot and he was killing the ISD and didnt hang around after it died to fight me.





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HewerofWood
Mon Aug 01, 2005 4:41 pm
#18

I suppose my reply is just that, Ducimus. What I wrote is pretty much what is happening. Inside.



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HewerofWood
Mon Aug 01, 2005 4:43 pm
#19

If I was an Imp, and I saw a player attacking the ISD, I'd go and Kill him. He's in Space, he's a threat. He'sThe Primary Threat.Kill him. Eliminate the threat.



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Zotux
Mon Aug 01, 2005 4:59 pm
#20






CuchulainnDarklight wrote:





Zotux wrote:

I don't have a particular school of thought on PVP. I basically turn off the whole thinking process and point and shoot at the red targets and hope I live through it. As soon as you try to think about the situation, your dead.


I don't claim to be the best, or evan near the top of the chart, but I find I do alot better if i don't think at all.








You mean, you calm your thoughts and emotions and use some other means to enable you to fight effectively in space?


HE IS USING FORCE POWERS IN SPACE - GET HIM!






LOL....thats funny. Non jedi on ground, but watch out once im in space, i suddenly have force powers.


Mabe thats how red squdron was so good. on the ground they were just a bunch of rebels, but were infused with thte force by some strange design of he ships they fly.






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xTekx
Mon Aug 01, 2005 6:14 pm
#21






HewerofWood wrote:
If I was an Imp, and I saw a player attacking the ISD, I'd go and Kill him. He's in Space, he's a threat. He'sThe Primary Threat.Kill him. Eliminate the threat.






Can I nominate you for pilot of the month? That's how the game is supposed to be played. And you're post earlier about what was going through your mind was awesome!


Yeah, we make friends up there and get into friendly duels... but the bottom line is he's red to you, better watch out. Unless you know the person lol


I know for me, when i'm going in and afraid i'm going to lose, and fight like I could die at any moment then I fly my best. But if I go in thinking, oh i'm going to get this guy i'll slack off on a turn, or think he won't do that and then BOOM... quick trip back to the station for me.

Message Edited by xTekx on 08-01-2005 06:16 PM



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Kehtal
Mon Aug 01, 2005 6:15 pm
#22

#1


I go into a fight expecting to win.


If I lose, I pick out my error and go back to even the score.


If I lose again, and fail to find an error, I add the pilot's name to my "Omg Ph3ar" list (Which currently has three members) and go off and do something else for a while =).







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Halyn
Mon Aug 01, 2005 6:18 pm
#23


Eh...I don't know. I've been told I'm pretty good (gotten compliments from a few of my foes), and I like to think that. On the other hand, I've visited the repair station too many times to have much pride left.


/curses IR2s





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HewerofWood
Mon Aug 01, 2005 6:28 pm
#24

I hear people say, all the time, that they are good, or, so and so is fantastic. I don't see it. I know for myself that, sometimes I'm on my game, many times I'm not. I've yet to see an invincible pilot or one worth all their bragging. It's good to be confident. Beats the hell out of Saps that want to proclaim they Suck. False Modesty is as bad as over-inflated, under supported, Pride. In myday-to-day, RL, craft,I deal with*Mules* with Ego all the time. I also deal with people who really ARE good. Put an Axe in my hand and I become a *Mule* myself, can't avoid it I just love to Hew. I don't brag about my Hewing, I just Hew. I like nothing better to see a good Pilot just Fly, the Hell with the talk, go ahead, Kill my Mark before I can, show me what you got.



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LeaphChausew
Mon Aug 01, 2005 7:57 pm
#25






Ducimus wrote:
As PvP goes i find theres two schools of attitude that im aware of.

1.) Think your good, beleive your the best, if you dont youve already lost the fight.

2.) The instant you think your good, you're not.

3.) other



I tend to subscribe to the second one. Reverse phsycology really. WHen i think im good, i get cocky and i make mistakes. When i think im up against someone who's probably better then me, i get a little nervous and scared, i never underestimate, and i tend to fly/fight that much harder.


Which do you subscribe to? Or do you subscribe to another mode of thought im not listing?

One of those, "im bored" posts

Edited for poor wording.

Message Edited by Ducimus on 08-01-2005 12:06 PM





Well my initial attitude was 'I am the best mwahaha!" back when I was a n00b...which you witnessed for yourself Rapax. From that meeting though I slowly changed and I knew I was good but I kind of subdued it a lot.


That was a good number of months ago.


These days my attitude is this:-


I know I'm good, but there is -always- somthing to learn and I've had people [even real respected pilots] tell me I'm the best they ever seen...which is nice but I -never- believe it and even though I been told I'm too modest it just isn't the truth and frankly I don't -want- to be the best because then there'd be nothing left to learn. In pvp, -nothing- can be taken for granted. I know my strong points and weak points and my aim is to improve so in summary...my attitude is this...


4. There is always room for improvement...Learn somthing from this regardless of the outcome and let myself have fun.


Going in with an open mind to each pvp encounter, I have found makes me fly better and keeps my 'ego' in check afterwards too whether I win or lose. If I win..it means I don't brag or anything and if I lose...the open mind and the will to learn makes me accept defeat and swallow it that much easier. I admit, I am not perfect, but I got enough self discipline to make myself abide by my own rules . Everyone has an ego afterall...so keeping it in check is the main thing I think.


I never patronise either with saying 'good fight' to someone even when it was a fight when I slaughtered them or vise versa...I say good fight when I mean it and I'll say 'wow you slaughtered me' when it happens...and then come back for another go. If I slaughter them..I keep quiet and react to my opponent's feedback [if any] appropriately whilst not sounding self righteous...and if they have the decency to accept and swallow a defeat, I'll give them tips and tell them how I got them so they may improve in future.


I never expect anything compliment wise from my opponents or friends and I don't fly for any 'quarter'...I really don't care what people think of my flying..in fact I feel a little uncomfortable when people compliment me. What I do care about is what people think of me as an opponent/friend and I love nothing more than to have an opponent who crushes me/gets crushed by me to be friends afterwards. Heh..I guess I'm a bit of a 'people's pilot' more than an 'uber combat ace'.


However..it doesn't keep me from being competitive...I won't ever tell an opponent 'oh watch out, you're about to get fried!" etc...thats just uncalled for imo and I know some people justs ay it for fun but one thing I do know is people are very good at taking things the wrong way so I keep silent before a match and even if I am confident..I'll supress it because confidence leads to takin your own abilities for granted which can lead to complacency and in my case..WOULD lead to complacency. You have that last pvp match between you and I Rapax as a good example of that. I'd taken you out three times before previously a few weeks earlier after a long period of time when you'd defeated me previously and I really wasn't sure on who'd win etc...so I flew better, but after winning gaainst you ..when I finally dueled your RG TIE..well as you said yourself and I acknowledged...I flew rather predictably and lost in the end...In fact, I was so complacent, I fell for a very obvious dupe when you 'retreated' and I followed IN A STRAIGHT LINE only to get a good collaring from your blasters when you doubled back on yourself.


But since I'm rambling on as I tend to do in responce of your 'I'm bored posts ' I'll say this too. I'm never -ever- too judemental of anyone who portrays a bad attitude to me during/after/before pvp. This is due to my initial attitude to space and how I changed...so I try and get them to be more understanding in my own pragmatic way before I put them on ignore. I'll only shove them on ignore if they truly show no signs of changing their ways. I think the best analogy of my attitude with really arrogant pilots in my first few minutes of talking to them is the 'nod and smile' strategy.


Anyway..my post ends.........Now


-Leaph


p.s


Ok..now it does.


Message Edited by LeaphChausew on 08-01-2005 08:16 PM

KaylBreinhar
Mon Aug 01, 2005 7:59 pm
#26

Right now I'm in #2.

Once Phoenix is built, I'll be in #3.



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