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Thread: Level 9 loot --- what a joke.

agent156
Thu Jul 14, 2005 5:41 am
#14

I've seen 5 Starmap shields now, and most aren't too off target for RE 7 shields. One was like 2200 F/B that's kinda nuts at 17k mass

RE level and Cert level don't have to match.
LeaphChausew
Thu Jul 14, 2005 5:48 am
#15






Treena_Daal wrote:
It seems fairly obvious to me. Even level loot is good stuff. Odd level loot is a visual reminder that you can get stuff from shipwrights, too. Think it's just a coincidence that shipwright parts are odd level?




lol...

agent156
Thu Jul 14, 2005 5:48 am
#16

I've got 2.2k of loot in a vendor for REing and research. I'm just used to the fact that some times they don't. Lots of Cert 10 RE 3 DIs out there.. and some other things. That they don't have match is even mentioned in the SW FAQs, no mention of bugs.

BTW all starmap shields are that way, not just some. And I there is some other reward like that... I just can't remember what it is atm...
JediNg
Thu Jul 14, 2005 5:52 am
#17






agent156 wrote:
I've got 2.2k of loot in a vendor for REing and research. I'm just used to the fact that some times they don't. Lots of Cert 10 RE 3 DIs out there.. and some other things. That they don't have match is even mentioned in the SW FAQs, no mention of bugs.

BTW all starmap shields are that way, not just some. And I there is some other reward like that... I just can't remember what it is atm...




None of my starmap shields are like that... lol.



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Higginsis
Thu Jul 14, 2005 6:05 am
#18

There's no way the Star Map was meant to be L8 RE level, imagine REing a L8 reward shield with one of those? Mines came out at 17k mass. 17k mass with 2555 f/b and +15 recharge, now thats more unbalancing than having it at L7.



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JediNg
Thu Jul 14, 2005 6:44 am
#19

everyone i have is level 8. mass and recharge are the stats you look at to tell


i think ihave one at 15.8 regen





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JanuHull
Thu Jul 14, 2005 6:55 am
#20

I've got an idea, why don't we turn on the brain fora minute.


Look at the loot item, see that there are more stats than just the primary ones? What if its got a really low energy drain? What if its got low mass, or high armor and hitpoints? Remember, kids, a good RE loot wh0re knows there's more to a superior outcome than just max damage, refire rate, droid speed and capacitor regen.


If its a high mass, low speed, droid interface, its probably got commensurately higher armor and hit points, too. Slap that in an RE bundle with a high speed low power interface, and you've got an uber DI that can take a hit or two. How 'bout dem apples?


I swear, these kids just do not know how to think for themselves... If the Devs don't serve it on a silver platter and a golden spoon, they whine about it till it is, and the intelligence of the system, to say nothing of the rarity safeguards that keep Shipwrights from becoming token RE experts, go right out the damned window.





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JediNg
Thu Jul 14, 2005 6:56 am
#21






JanuHull wrote:

I've got an idea, why don't we turn on the brain fora minute.


Look at the loot item, see that there are more stats than just the primary ones? What if its got a really low energy drain? What if its got low mass, or high armor and hitpoints? Remember, kids, a good RE loot wh0re knows there's more to a superior outcome than just max damage, refire rate, droid speed and capacitor regen.


If its a high mass, low speed, droid interface, its probably got commensurately higher armor and hit points, too. Slap that in an RE bundle with a high speed low power interface, and you've got an uber DI that can take a hit or two. How 'bout dem apples?


I swear, these kids just do not know how to think for themselves... If the Devs don't serve it on a silver platter and a golden spoon, they whine about it till it is, and the intelligence of the system, to say nothing of the rarity safeguards that keep Shipwrights from becoming token RE experts, go right out the damned window.







moi?



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To BB, Jo-Jo, Reilly, Beano, Dipper, Flat Top, Chuckles, Jolly, Crashdown, Sheppard, Dash, Flyboy, Stepchild, Puppet, Fireball...
You said that humanity never asked itself why it deserved to survive. Maybe you don't?
Stand by, FTL.
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JanuHull
Thu Jul 14, 2005 6:58 am
#22






JediNg wrote:





JanuHull wrote:

I've got an idea, why don't we turn on the brain fora minute.


Look at the loot item, see that there are more stats than just the primary ones? What if its got a really low energy drain? What if its got low mass, or high armor and hitpoints? Remember, kids, a good RE loot wh0re knows there's more to a superior outcome than just max damage, refire rate, droid speed and capacitor regen.


If its a high mass, low speed, droid interface, its probably got commensurately higher armor and hit points, too. Slap that in an RE bundle with a high speed low power interface, and you've got an uber DI that can take a hit or two. How 'bout dem apples?


I swear, these kids just do not know how to think for themselves... If the Devs don't serve it on a silver platter and a golden spoon, they whine about it till it is, and the intelligence of the system, to say nothing of the rarity safeguards that keep Shipwrights from becoming token RE experts, go right out the damned window.







moi?





Just ranting in general... Sometimes uber stats on loot items AREN'T the usual suspects, look beyond the obvious and you might find you've got a gem you didn't know you had.



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JediNg
Thu Jul 14, 2005 7:00 am
#23

after i did a few re jobs way way back, i started to loook at every stat lol. mass, red, regen, eps, vs shield vs armor everything. cept the hp and armor lol. 'cuz i knew reward items had the highest,



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To BB, Jo-Jo, Reilly, Beano, Dipper, Flat Top, Chuckles, Jolly, Crashdown, Sheppard, Dash, Flyboy, Stepchild, Puppet, Fireball...
You said that humanity never asked itself why it deserved to survive. Maybe you don't?
Stand by, FTL.
On the day before pub 10, jdmaldo said: "for everyone who grinded the last months of their lives away and didn't get jedi: owned"
Higginsis
Thu Jul 14, 2005 7:00 am
#24



JediNg wrote:

everyone i have is level 8. mass and recharge are the stats you look at to tell

i think ihave one at 15.8 regen






Everyone one you have is certed at level 8, the RE level is L7.



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Sar-larid
Thu Jul 14, 2005 7:04 am
#25





JediNg wrote:





agent156 wrote:
RE level and Cert level don't have to match.




They're supposed to match.



According to...what?



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JanuHull
Thu Jul 14, 2005 7:06 am
#26






JediNg wrote:
after i did a few re jobs way way back, i started to loook at every stat lol. mass, red, regen, eps, vs shield vs armor everything. cept the hp and armor lol. 'cuz i knew reward items had the highest,






Yeah, I did this myself when I took my MSW and finally started sorting my guild's loot junk. Shields are especially deceptive, because your instinct is to look for a shield with both front and back protection being uber, but if you step back and look again, mixing and matching the imbalanced shields can yield amazing results.


I'd still check the armor and hit points on field looted stuff, I've seen some surprising numbers. Especially if the person coming to you to RE his loot reward has used it un-RE'd for so long, its inherent armor and hitpoints have been eaten to squat. (guilty as charged )


I've still got a few level 5 DI's with 5000 or so mass and speeds in the low to mid teens.





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CFA

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