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if u both had knockdown, how was he so much beneath you? and if u want to look at really sucking, anyone using a CDEF weapon, without even novice marksman can beat u, just by running away from you shooting.....so i think it would be better to worry about other issues besides nerfing TKA's

you also need to look at the grouping factor, if you were grouped with a TKA, wouldn't you rather him be able to do alot of damage, instead of be nerfed because of your actions on the message boards, and when you die to some mob because your group couldnt do damage fast enough, you can think back to your cry for a nerf, if you like TKA so much, and hate pikeman so much, change your profession, no one is stopping you from being a TKA

Long vibro axe has a -50 Accuracy modifier, even at ideal range. Armor / no armor makes no difference. There are month old posts on this subject, but no fix has been seen. Can you make sure to get their attention?

Thanks

I have been really aggrovated lately. I am extremly pissed off about my class and its faults.

First off, I chose to be a pikeman because of originallity. I dont want to be like every other CH, Pistoleer in SWG. Coming from Everquest, I am used to actually going up to the mob and fighting, which I find fun.

Points:

-#1- The range on moving mobs is ALL MESSED UP. For example: I take an imperial mission, head out, and find an NPC waiting for me with a PISTOL in his hand. I will run up to the mob while getting shot at. By this time there is usually about 200 Health and 100 Action taken out of my HAM bars... which I dont mind, because thats the price we pay. (To fix this, i also use a gun to shoot while charging in). Now, I get in range of melee and get one hit off.... Usually i try a special move, and pray I dont miss. After one attack the mob runs off while shooting me. I chase after him.... he keeps shooting and I keep getting "Out of Range". HE WONT STOP.... they are too smart. So... to fix this, I will usually stop, turn around and run off and wait until he comes after me. By the time the fight is finally over, it has been about 5 minutes and I will be almost completly out of HAM, unless I got lucky with some 2k+ hits. Now, any other class would have easily owned this mob in a matter of seconds. Guns and Pets make it easy my friends.

-#2- We miss way too much. I swear I miss half of the rounds in a fight. Today I missed a White con mob 7 times in a row..... YES 7 frikin times! I about puked and punched my monitor. Oh i also recall missing a BABY mob 4 times in a row.

-#3- Agro on big mobs sucks. Today while fighting Kimo's on Lok, I was in a group that had about 5 rifleman and 5 pets. I would sit back and let the pets gain about 20 seconds of agro... which reduces the xp im getting for missing out on the action. I run in..... first attack: MISS, second attack: HIT, Third Attack: GAIN AGRO, Forth attack: DIE. EVERY **edit** TIME! We gain agro entirely way too fast. Any mob I fight I over agro anyone else. And i dont last longer then 5 seconds. I mean, Im decked in armor and I still last just as long as a Pistoleer in clothes does. THIS IS LAME< FIX IT. Are Kimo's and Krayts just not made for melee??? Were the Dev's saying while the programmed "We will make the most fun and hardest mobs to fight for Range attackers only, just to piss off the melee class"????

-#4- The best place for a melee class to gain XP was the Tusken Camp on Tatooine. This camp was the best xp I've seen yet, and it still took forever to level. Everyday more and more people came to this ONE camp to get xp, which made it WAY overcrowded and impossible to get an attack on every mob. XP was fair, making it not too fast, but still a good place to earn it. Guess what, IT IS NO MORE. With the big nerf, we got screwed out of somthing that wasn't even too powerful for us. You dev's want a better way to solve your problem of overcrowding an area????? Put more of these camps then just ONE in the game!!!! We Need more static spawns.

-#5- Im sick of being told.... "You should play a new class". NO! for fuks sake Im not taking the easy way out. I really don't find sicking 2 pets on a mob and sitting back and shooting without any possible danger any fun at all. I find it cheap. I find it boring. and I find the challenge of trying to balance the melee class more exciting.

Word.

Cheapness will not prevail.

I had a little 'spat', on the TKA boards about knockdown. And they said that i shouldn't have been glad(wich i never even said i was) that KD was getting nerfed. I am SOOOOOOOOOOO glad it is. Last night i got in a fight with some one with underhand shot. Who wanted to fight me even though i was calling out melee users. So i assumed he understoood why I was not looking for a ranged fight and avoid those things. But nooooo....KD,KD,KD,KD,KD,KD,KD,KD,KD so i ended the duel. We fought a couple of times and he NEVER missed either. I got him once though when he was off gaurd. I hit him once and had my droid continue to shoot him while i was lying on the ground. The dorid only had to hit him twice after the damage i did.

But our class couldn't spam KD if we wanted to. We are too slow and ours actually costs HAM.

There is no doubt that KD is a strong move but...

I got news for ya ArkMindSpear, and the rest of the Pikeman folks might want to listen...

KD is the ONLY means by which any melee can tank any big Mobs. As a previous poster pointed out...once you engage a Mob he will switch right over to you regardless of how many number of pets have been wacking on it before you. Armor is almost useless against big game because they will damage it to the point of needed repair after one night's worth of combat. The only way to tank is to make the Mob not hit you while you hit it or at the very least slow its hits down to the point where a medic has chance at keeping up with the damage done to you.

Basing your need for a KD nerf because a TK can beat you in a 1v1 duel is a very bad thing man. A nerf on this affects not justTKs but other melee classes as well like YOU. As a Pikeman you have KD, an Area effect KD I might add. If you think you can't tank now....your dead in the water if the next KD nerf is a serious one. Might as well pick up a gun because you wont be tanking anything...and don't look to your TK brothers in arms for help in battle because they will be just as nerfed as you.

Class envy has screwed up the balance of alot of gamesfolks. People call down the nerf bat too easily without thinking of other solutions first.

Did it ever cross your mind that asking for extra defense vs position change for Pikemen as a means of combating not only other faster melee but ranged KDmight be in order?

No, lets take a life saving move common to multiple professions including your own and have it nerfed soyou can beat the TK now in a duel.

Brilliant.

More Defensive skills, or better Defensive toughness. Melee fighters in general IMO should have great melee defense.

Think of a great sword battle in the movies. It lasts a great deal of time. So should a Melee battle with two combatants. Blocks and parries, with lots of defense. Not just whack, whack, dead.

Melee Combatants should have a parry skill, or some defense to knockdowns.

I have noticed the toughness loss we have over other melee professions and I have noticed the whacked out weaponsmithing issues. But my min concern at this point is that we have insane penalties to hit. I have a basic lance, long vibro axe, and a vibro lance. I'm also a novice pikeman at this point.

Example:

I am standing 3m away from a corellian butterfly. With my basic lance I have a -5 to hit it. With a Long vibro axe I have a -50 to hit it. finally with a vibro lance I have a -48 to hit it. does this make any sense at all? I currently also have a +80 to hit or so it says in my skills screen.

I've also noticed that the long vibro axe seems to be hands down better than the vibro lance. I'm confused....Shouldn't the novice pikeman or profession specific weapon of pikeman be better than the weapon I was certified for at expert Pikeman in the brawler profession?

I HAVE missed a baby 5 times in a row and my record for missing so far is like 7 times. I thinks our class R broken.

things wouldn't be so bad if I could level reasonably and RELY ON MY SKILLS TO HIT!

We are supposed to have lower toughness. We have the best specials of the melee classes. It is for balance.

The main problem is the accuracy mods on our weapons, and melee v. ranged accuracy in general. Ranged should be the ones that miss often, not melee. Just think about it.

I nearly never use my sweep move becouse it isn't that good. It is slow. And i usualy do the damage that the enemy missed out on to my self. And miss half the time any way(still doing the damage to myself) AND the enemy gets to hit me still.

I don't care if they take knockdown out of the game. It would be a happier place. And if being compleatly incapable in nearly every way to fight some one on a lower level than you isn't a reason to nerf or fix or boost something, then why don't you tell me what is?

I don't think they need to ruin KD tofix it, but you people are all piss scared you might take a hit(when you have the highest defense of anyone!!!). I don't get it. I have accepted the downsides to my proffesion. Marksman will kite. TKA will KD. The only chance i have to win a fight is against another pikeman. Only becouse it is a miss fest.

People people people. You are not supposed to have any decent chance of fighting a red con. When you are able to or ready to fight them they will become a white con.

Now since this post is way off topic, I am gonna shove some on topic stuff in here so Norrin Radd over there will have something to post.

i want to be able to hit my target. FIX IT! I can't trust my weapon when i am fighting. If the game so chooses, anything will kill me. I always enter in my miss factor when i decide if i can take something.3 misses for good measure. But when i get 5 in a row and other miss mot in a row and miss berserk 3 times. It's no good.

Any way. No one cares how they fix the KD down problem. I garante it. We just want to geta hit in. And when we do, we DON'T wanna see 'miss' float over their heads.

so have fun being KD whore and never having to 'think' about what special move you are gonna use or give anyone a fair chance, just becouse thats how it was when you started your proffesion and you grew compleatly dependent on it. And to take it away would make you have to learn stuff. Make sure you complain if you ever die becouse the enemy didn't line up and fight you one at a time so that way they couldn't move and you get lots of Exp becouse you found a loophole in the system and exploited it so you could take things that you are not supposed to fight. And don't get pissy when the people who kill themselves to fight and have to pray every time they swing would like you to be fixed so you wouldn't strut around like you own ther place...godd noooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Love to all brawlers....except that guy, and like hard headed people who think that they are just gennerly supirior and simly should just have everything.