Pikeman Archive
Thread: Information on DOT removal...
Robzilla214
Sat Apr 02, 2005 2:24 pm
#27
MyT_Chicken wrote:
TeamTwin1 wrote:
MyT_Chicken wrote:
Aowa wrote:
Ok I will just suck up my millions upon millions of credits wasted. Sounds great
"Investment comes with Risk..."
really nothing else to say about your credits. You took a chance at buying DOT's...not the Weapon.
What a line. If SWG has never nerf'd dot's, taken away a uber dot or stopped them from dropping then how do you get risk? If you associate Risk with being at the whim of someone else then I suppose your definition is correct.
I'm just happy you're not in politics
Investment in any item comes with risk....That includes real life. It has nothing to do with politics. Purchasing an item only for the DOT associated with it and not the actual weapon itself is the risk you take when investing millions of credits into an item.
Just what id expect to hear from a carebear. When people purchased their dots there was no talk of the removal of them, hence no risk, and this isnt RL incase you've forgot this...
buellronin
Sat Apr 02, 2005 4:40 pm
#28
Aowa wrote:
Ok I will just suck up my millions upon millions of credits wasted. Sounds great
people who invest in the stock market in rl loose money sometimes =---- there is a risk in everything you do
buell
ps dont cry
pagoa
Sat Apr 02, 2005 7:30 pm
#29
i also have millions invested in dots, so i understand the crying. i have 1000 tick mind stacked over 4 dots. i'm happy to see them go if the devs get it right. i hate dots but got them cause that was the game at the time. cm's would hit me for huge mind damage and i'd be dead in seconds. lol where is the skill in that. same with another friend who uses a 500 mind tick carbine lol. when we fight it is a race to slap our dots on. point is don't blame the dot user, it's the devs responsablilty to correct these things and that what the cu is all about. also there must be balance between profs. i don't even want a wickedly uber pike for my dots if it is going to effectively do the same. i want things EVEN EVEN EVEN!!!! in a nut shell, i want to be able to work my ass off at pike, and at the end be able to compete with any prof in the game with no dots and no uber weapons, but with skill and practice dictating whether i win. for this i will gladly sacrifice the millions i spent on those dam dots.
Pagoa
Eggman11
Sat Apr 02, 2005 7:44 pm
#30
Aowa wrote:
Iridescence wrote:
Aowa wrote:
Iridescence wrote:
pikeman411 wrote:
Aowa wrote:
Ok I will just suck up my millions upon millions of credits wasted. Sounds great
cry more
Please tell me that when you bought those millions of credits worth of uber DOTs that you DIDN'T REALLY THINK that stacking 900+ ticking DOTs would still be allowed after the CU. That would sorta negate the whole point.
My heart truly bleeds for all the DOT stackers.
Geez, I said sorry Im sad about my money! Right now, one of the only ways to excel in PVP is to be a jedi or to be a DoT stacker. So of course being a pikeman I bought DoTs. We all thought the CU was a myth and would never happen, obviously I didn't think that far ahead. I tested the CU though and it looks like if they add damage to the DoT weapons, they might turn out pretty nice.
Well, sorry I didn't intend to sound like a jerk.. but I think my point stands. First time in pvp I ticked for some insane amount of my mind pool, inflicted by an unbuffed combat medic, I knew immediately that it wasn't intended in a game that was supposed to have some vestage of balance.
Lol, you think that's bad, you should see what I can do with my acklay poisons and my mind fire/poison lances...
Im just trying to make this post longer. And BTW, a pikeman 450 mind poison is < my unarmed head hit that does 80 dmg per second which would = an 800 dmg poison
Message Edited by Eggman11 on 04-02-2005 09:48 PM
pagoa
Sat Apr 02, 2005 8:08 pm
#31
lol that's right, that's the reason we need these leveled out. a tk fighting a master pike should be fairly equal with no dots. oh man, i'm really holding my breath hoping all the millions this is gonna end up costing me is gonna be worth it in fun 
please don't let us down devs...
please don't let us down devs...
chindi2k2
Sun Apr 03, 2005 2:35 pm
#32
Some more info here posted by Helios (a Dev) in answer to a question on whether high stat DoTs would be added to weapon damage.
DOTs of this sort will indeed be removed completely from all weapons. The point values of the DOTs will not be converted on a 1-1 ratio; instead a formula is used to derive a more reasonable value for the end weapon. All weapon valueswill be modified to be within acceptable (from a balance perspective) ranges of the new weapon target numbers. The truth of the matter is that there are some very overpowered DOT weapons in the world, and those weapons will no doubt lose much of their punch. These weapons should, however, still be relativelyexcellent weapons within the new system - just not the overpowered uber weapons they are now.
chindi2k2
Sun Apr 03, 2005 6:40 pm
#34
Malinko_Oknilam wrote:
Why couldnt they have just got rid of DoTs?
Eh? They are getting rid of DoTs. If you mean why are they replacing DoTs with extra power on the weapon , then why not get rid of all good looted weapons , all krayted weapons , nym , gorax , spider fang , acklay , everything? Lets all just buy base weapons from faction recruiters or something , take crafters out too , and slicing , don't need them really.
Loot and the ability to get better weapons and equipment is a fundamental part of a MMORPG in my opinion.
DarthBigglesworth
Tue Apr 05, 2005 4:29 am
#36
VacaXXX wrote:
I agree
GOODBYE DOTS!!!!!!!!!!!!11!!1
/snaps favourite mind fire pike over knee
/crying good bye my friend!
Message Edited by DarthBigglesworth on 04-05-2005 12:30 PM
Jancen_Teiren
Tue Apr 05, 2005 1:38 pm
#37
We are all going to miss our dots. I personally have a set of pikes I use to kill jedi. I prefer 2 action fire dots backed with a couple of action poison dots, use leghit, intimidate, knockdown, warcry, shake and serve and you have a great jedi whoopass cocktail. Still I hate spending great amounts of cash, or all my time hunting NS to keep a good suply of dots that I burn through to quick. I would rather have pikes that do not depend on dots. I would rather have direct damage and not have to hope that my dot is going to stick. With the new health bar system Dots would be too effective. A nice action dot would leave the other player unable to do anything but run and as it seems to me a mind dot would have almost no effect at all. I have only come across one special that uses the mind pool and that is exclusive to zabraks. Lets just hope that they really up the direct damage on the weapons that do have dots. Many of us stand to really have some uber weapons 
Abrainlessdude
Tue Apr 05, 2005 3:01 pm
#38
Yeah wasted a few mill as well dubt i'll miss them with all the new nice looking pikes
More concern about my highdmg pikes adk'ed if the devs can hold what they said, -If you have the greatest pike on the server then you'll still have the best with CU!
Iridescence
Tue Apr 05, 2005 3:05 pm
#39
Eggman11 wrote:
Aowa wrote:
Iridescence wrote:
Aowa wrote:
Iridescence wrote:
pikeman411 wrote:
Aowa wrote:Ok I will just suck up my millions upon millions of credits wasted. Sounds great
cry more
Please tell me that when you bought those millions of credits worth of uber DOTs that you DIDN'T REALLY THINK that stacking 900+ ticking DOTs would still be allowed after the CU. That would sorta negate the whole point.
My heart truly bleeds for all the DOT stackers.
Geez, I said sorry Im sad about my money! Right now, one of the only ways to excel in PVP is to be a jedi or to be a DoT stacker. So of course being a pikeman I bought DoTs. We all thought the CU was a myth and would never happen, obviously I didn't think that far ahead. I tested the CU though and it looks like if they add damage to the DoT weapons, they might turn out pretty nice.
Well, sorry I didn't intend to sound like a jerk.. but I think my point stands. First time in pvp I ticked for some insane amount of my mind pool, inflicted by an unbuffed combat medic, I knew immediately that it wasn't intended in a game that was supposed to have some vestage of balance.
Lol, you think that's bad, you should see what I can do with my acklay poisons and my mind fire/poison lances...
Im just trying to make this post longer. And BTW, a pikeman 450 mind poison is < my unarmed head hit that does 80 dmg per second which would = an 800 dmg poisonMessage Edited by Eggman11 on 04-02-2005 09:48 PM
An 800-tick poison doesn't get mitigated, doesn't have to go through 85% kinetic armor, doesn't have to worry about the fact that its only Light armor piercing, doesn't get Blocked half the time by a capped-pikeman, doesn't have to worry that it's dizzy and knocked-down, doesn't have to try to get through 100+ melee defense, etc.
Plus that 800-strength poison ticks once for 800... your 80 DPS (which sounds way too high to me for TK given my experience) has to contend with the target's buffed Willpower constantly recharging which is less of a factor when that 800 happens all at once.