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Thread: Information on DOT removal...

Iridescence
Tue Apr 05, 2005 3:08 pm
#40

And on a side note, I'm gonna be interested to see how the devs adjust the stats on my 198-796 damage LVA when they take the 272-strength health poison off
hovis8
Tue Apr 05, 2005 4:27 pm
#41






chindi2k2 wrote:





Malinko_Oknilam wrote:
Why couldnt they have just got rid of DoTs?






Eh? They are getting rid of DoTs. If you mean why are they replacing DoTs with extra power on the weapon , then why not get rid of all good looted weapons , all krayted weapons , nym , gorax , spider fang , acklay , everything? Lets all just buy base weapons from faction recruiters or something , take crafters out too , and slicing , don't need them really.


Loot and the ability to get better weapons and equipment is a fundamental part of a MMORPG in my opinion.









i cant agree more with you,its what brings a lot of fun to this game,making every 1 equal ,and the weopons the same would make this game usless,after all if everything in life was the same how boring it would be!!!

hovis8
Tue Apr 05, 2005 4:35 pm
#42






pagoa wrote:

i also have millions invested in dots, so i understand the crying. i have 1000 tick mind stacked over 4 dots. i'm happy to see them go if the devs get it right. i hate dots but got them cause that was the game at the time. cm's would hit me for huge mind damage and i'd be dead in seconds. lol where is the skill in that. same with another friend who uses a 500 mind tick carbine lol. when we fight it is a race to slap our dots on. point is don't blame the dot user, it's the devs responsablilty to correct these things and that what the cu is all about. also there must be balance between profs. i don't even want a wickedly uber pike for my dots if it is going to effectively do the same. i want things EVEN EVEN EVEN!!!! in a nut shell, i want to be able to work my ass off at pike, and at the end be able to compete with any prof in the game with no dots and no uber weapons, but with skill and practice dictating whether i win. for this i will gladly sacrifice the millions i spent on those dam dots.


Pagoa






ohhh great lets all be the same,variety is the spice of life!in ur other post u talked about a tk and a pikeman being able to have an even duel,well dont u think a six foot pike would be a slight advantage over a beefed up knuckle duster?all profs should have there advantages and disadvantages!
DesolateFate
Tue Apr 05, 2005 6:11 pm
#43

ooh I'll miss... oh wait the only dot weapons I got were given to me and never used :-)

Pikeman isn't and never was about the dots.



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Aowa
Tue Apr 05, 2005 9:28 pm
#44






DesolateFate wrote:
ooh I'll miss... oh wait the only dot weapons I got were given to me and never used :-)

Pikeman isn't and never was about the dots.





In my opinion your a stupid moron for not utilising every advantage your profession offers you.




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OryakaDrake
Tue Apr 05, 2005 10:11 pm
#45



My 550 max 1.5 speed 293 health fireLVA with amazing duration uses and pot will do me just fine me thinks... muhahaha!


Oryaka

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DesolateFate
Wed Apr 06, 2005 4:02 am
#46



Aowa wrote:


DesolateFate wrote:
ooh I'll miss... oh wait the only dot weapons I got were given to me and never used :-)

Pikeman isn't and never was about the dots.


In my opinion your a stupid moron for not utilising every advantage your profession offers you.




/shrug

Did fine without resorting to those tactics, guess my idea of honorable combat is diffrent from most.

I'll admit to a couple questionable tactics, but I prefer to use my profession's abilities and not wait on a tic to defeat my foes for me. No challenge to use a mind fire pike to defeat a foe, might as well sit back and let a droid fight for me...



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Thunderclees
Wed Apr 06, 2005 6:11 pm
#47

any idea what this will do?



Nightsister Lance(Exceptional)

Condition 485/600

Speed 1.2

Min 24

Max 468


DOT 1:

Regular Health Disease


DOT 2:

Mind Poison - 642 Damage

Potency 242%

Duration 299 Seconds

Uses Remaining10346(Yes, that isnt a typo)



Thunderclees
IscariotInc
Wed Apr 06, 2005 10:18 pm
#48

right now it will do what it says


after the CU they will take into consideration the strength, duration, potency and type of dot and add damage onto the weapon depending on those factors.



I'd say you'll have a bitchin weapon on your hands



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Sneeuwlok
Fri Apr 08, 2005 3:25 am
#49


If this is true, then dont slice your Dot lance till after the CU.


A calculation:


Lets say, you have a 300 dmg NS lance with a strong Dot.

Lets say, they convert the Dot into an additional strenght, like 200.


When you slice it before the CU (30% dam. slice), the pike will become after the CU:


  • (0.3 x 300) + 300 + 200 = 590 dmg.

When you slice it AFTER the CU (30% dam. slice), the pike will become:



  • (300 + 200) + ((300 + 200) x 0.3) = 650 dmg !!!


Note: this only happens if they add the Dot conversion seperatly on top of the current damage

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Quiet420
Fri Apr 08, 2005 2:48 pm
#50






Sneeuwlok wrote:


If this is true, then dont slice your Dot lance till after the CU.


A calculation:


Lets say, you have a 300 dmg NS lance with a strong Dot.

Lets say, they convert the Dot into an additional strenght, like 200.


When you slice it before the CU (30% dam. slice), the pike will become after the CU:


  • (0.3 x 300) + 300 + 200 = 590 dmg.

When you slice it AFTER the CU (30% dam. slice), the pike will become:



  • (300 + 200) + ((300 + 200) x 0.3) = 650 dmg !!!


Note: this only happens if they add the Dot conversion seperatly on top of the current damage


Message Edited by Sneeuwlok on 04-08-2005 01:28 PM



dont forget theyre nerfing slicing too...nothings safe

Kill-A-Lot
Mon Apr 11, 2005 2:38 am
#51

This just an idea but maybe they're gonna add the dots to like elemental dmg stuff
dunno.. we'll see



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Gunman21
Fri Apr 15, 2005 2:21 am
#52

Sorry, the only people who know how conversion will work, and what stats will look like on dot weapons post CU, are the devs working on the conversion process.


Untill we get to test that....I can't help anyone on stats




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