Pikeman Archive

Thread: Dot Discussion

OutbackWookiee
Tue May 25, 2004 1:15 am
#27


What's with the pissing contest at the end of everyones post?


I've been a pikeman since the start.That's right, day 3 or some crap. Who cares?



We're not going to get the fixes we're looking for in the combat balance but we sure as hell are going to get the nerfs that we aren't looking for.


When the DOTs go down, we're all dead.


All the bandwagon jumpers might as well hop off now.





LegwandLongfellow
MasterPikeman/Brawler
TKA/Fencer/HeavySwordsman
There'sabigblackholegonnaeatmeupsomeday
Somedayfadesaway,likeamemory


antares_Kauri
Tue May 25, 2004 5:43 am
#28






Gunman21 wrote:


when commentingplease list the number of months you have been a pikeman (be honest!)


Thanks





antares
master pikeman



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Gunman21
Tue May 25, 2004 2:13 pm
#29

From the devs:




All of these numbers and things are part of the combat balance. Rules, numbers, etc, are all under the hood and will be adjusted.




Aidelon Kejaci
Legends Among Warriors

Former pikeman correspondent December 2003 - August 2005.

R.I.P. Pikeman!

ArkMindSpear
Tue May 25, 2004 2:19 pm
#30

so we just kick back and let them do what ever the hell they want.

what's to be discussed?



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Equilibruim
Tue May 25, 2004 3:19 pm
#31

How could you call a 75% reduction on a 250 poison anything but retarded? Itll tick for what, 40? Why even have DOTs? A 800 would tick for like 250... doesnt make any sense whatsoever to nerf them that hard, or even at all. I think the drops should be made rarer then they are atm, make NS harder, and bring the certs higher up the tree for NS lances, like novice pikeman. I DO see us becoming a FOTM after the CM nerf, because we're an easy source of DoT weapons and have cheap prices becuase of the small market. Then Pikeman gets nerfed and we're worse off than what we started at.



Oh yea, and been a pikeman for almostsince launch, besides my two month break and 1.5 months as a mater heavy swordsman.





Melik / Vigilante-

Melik / Lvl 1 Night Elf Druid / illidan
Dynastar
Tue May 25, 2004 3:40 pm
#32



Equilibruim wrote:

How could you call a 75% reduction on a 250 poison anything but retarded? Itll tick for what, 40? Why even have DOTs? A 800 would tick for like 250... doesnt make any sense whatsoever to nerf them that hard, or even at all. I think the drops should be made rarer then they are atm, make NS harder, and bring the certs higher up the tree for NS lances, like novice pikeman. I DO see us becoming a FOTM after the CM nerf, because we're an easy source of DoT weapons and have cheap prices becuase of the small market. Then Pikeman gets nerfed and we're worse off than what we started at.

Oh yea, and been a pikeman for almost since launch, besides my two month break and 1.5 months as a mater heavy swordsman.






1. Nerf DoTs.
2. Fix Pikeman
3. Make polearms drop as often as everything else
4. Profit!



Ramsey Logan
By Federal Law, Riflemen do it with 16 inches or more!
Master Pikeman
Daros
Tue May 25, 2004 7:39 pm
#33

Honestly, I have a feeling that many of the people playing Pikemen are grinders. The recent announcement regarding changes to FS unlocking made a lot of people pretty pissed, and I'm sure some people are getting as many professions done now while they still have a chance to unlock. Many people waited on Pikeman because they heard it was broken, so they're doing it now.


This is pure speculation on my part, but considering things I'd heard from some of the hologrinders in my guild, I believe it.


On a little side note, compared to the other brawler weapons, our Pikes do look the best. The models are simply cool, far better than gaffis, curved swords, VKs, or power hammers. I guess the only one I like a little more is the Scythe, but that's ok... we'll get ours.


*ramble ramble*



---------------
Reynna Shadowfire - Lowca
Master Pikeman, Master Brawler, Master Scout, Novice TK, Novice Medic

"Do the people who threaten to quit really think some FotM dotmonkey who tried to buy his way to uberness is going to be missed? Nobody cares if you quit." -annelid0
Locky-1138
Tue May 25, 2004 7:42 pm
#34

right now, the only thing that ends alot of fights is a good strong mind dot.


i can win as a pikeman because i can DoT there mind pool and then sit and tank till they die (honestly its damn near imposible to kill any one) its either that, or switch to rifle, the only profession with the power to punch through that full composit armor.





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OutbackWookiee
Tue May 25, 2004 9:00 pm
#35






antares_Kauri wrote:





Gunman21 wrote:


when commentingplease list the number of months you have been a pikeman (be honest!)


Thanks





antares
master pikeman







Huh. Well then .... carry on.





LegwandLongfellow
MasterPikeman/Brawler
TKA/Fencer/HeavySwordsman
There'sabigblackholegonnaeatmeupsomeday
Somedayfadesaway,likeamemory


Dynastar
Wed May 26, 2004 12:12 am
#36



antares_Kauri wrote:
Sure, tons of people might take up polearms II to use a NS lance with a DoT, but they aren't pikemen at that point.

antares
master pikeman




No, but at Polearms II they now wield the "power" of the Pikeman profession, and that is what counts. People don't care if they only have Polearms II, or Polearms IV because they are a Master Brawler. All they know is that their mind is now burning for 280 a tick, and some guy with a lance just did it.



Ramsey Logan
By Federal Law, Riflemen do it with 16 inches or more!
Master Pikeman
Gunman21
Wed May 26, 2004 12:14 pm
#37

That was just for a little bit of demographics




Aidelon Kejaci
Legends Among Warriors

Former pikeman correspondent December 2003 - August 2005.

R.I.P. Pikeman!

chimp17
Wed May 26, 2004 11:29 pm
#38

Wouldent it be easer to make it so only a novice pikeman can use a pike with a Dot? Wouldent this stop people from just grabbing the few needed skills to use dot weapons? This way dots wouldent need a 75% reduce, but i agree just to be even maby a 80% or 85%. Wouldent a 75% bring us back to problem one...pikeman being bad a PvP?




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rantboy
Thu May 27, 2004 7:39 pm
#39

i think the devs should think ofother ways to fix things then just nerf them. but with DoTs i dont no....They are rly rly strong and killer. i would think they could put the poisen lances higher in the pikemen skill tree. and then maybe make them be alittle less powerful. so that they will help but not like win the fight for u.



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