Pikeman Archive
Thread: Current Pikeman Issues
But, although the combat passes have been put off (until who knows when) they did say they would continue to operate on correspondent issues. So we can do what we can through those.
antares
master pikeman
antares_Kauri wrote:
I'm very unhappy about that. TH even stated to the rangers that he had to fight to get it "back on the plate" at a meeting. It's absurd to indefinitely put off the GCW and combat passes.
But, although the combat passes have been put off (until who knows when) they did say they would continue to operate on correspondent issues. So we can do what we can through those.
antares
master pikeman
That's why as far as our Correspondent issues we need to have "Block must work like Dodge/Counterattack for Pikeman to be viable"
That's it.
Padre
I am considering Pikeman as a profession, so of course, I came to the Pikeman forum to browse the stickies. That's where the players tell how the profession really is.
I find it... odd... that the correspondant believes that Pikeman should have the highest damage melee profession AND take the same amount of damage as other melee classes.That's just askingfor a game wide scream of "NERF TEH PIKEMANZ!"
Either they are the highest damage dealing melee profession and suffer lower defenses and/or lower accuracy or some other form of compromise of stats, but in terms of balance, one cannot be top dawg in terms of accuracy, damage AND defense.
Just 2 credits from someone else who thinks Block is silly
EDIT: Yay for 1-stars!
Message Edited by XaverriJade7 on 04-19-2004 12:12 AM
Conceptually, if pikeman ever does become the heaviest hitter, then no, they shouldn't have the best defense. That's just common sense.
And boo to whoever one starred me. Just because you disagree with me doesn't mean I am wrong or didn't at least present a good argument.
I can appreciate that.
I am currently a bounty hunter and they're all screaming the same thing. "Give us defense!" "Give us offense!" Can't have both. Which would you guys prefer? Defense or offense?
I can't speak much considering I am not even brawler yet (doing carbineer first in my transition), but judging by other melee classes, pikeman seems like it should be heavy offense with block based defense (though I agree block should be adjusted to function properly).
50% of 5000 > 0% of 5000
Padre
RebPike wrote:
Hmm if they give us a bit more Polearm Toughness, they dont need to make block more powerfull! Thats it.....
And blocking 50% of all damage on top of melee damagae mitigation would be ridiculous. One cannot dodge all the time... why should someone be able to block all the time? The success rate needs improving but 100% is a balance issue.
RebPike wrote:
Hmm if they give us a bit more Polearm Toughness, they dont need to make block more powerfull! Thats it.....
I know math education is bad but let me break it down one more time. You get hit and get hit a lot in high level combat. Every time you get hit and you successfully block you take half damage which is then applied against the relevant resistances etc (armor, toughness--which is ONLY for melee attack btw), that's a lot of damage that goes through. Now, if you Dodge/Counterattack you take NO damage, which equals ZERO (0) so doesn't need to go further in the process with armor/toughness effects, your armor takes no decay and you take no battle fatigue (or actual damage). I mean what's so hard to understand that this is NOT some little difference this is a collosal difference in the amount of damage/battle fatigue/armor decay/risk of death that we take versus other melee professions.
Padre
Areriye wrote:
And blocking 50% of all damage on top of melee damagae mitigation would be ridiculous. One cannot dodge all the time... why should someone be able to block all the time? The success rate needs improving but 100% is a balance issue.