Musician Archive
Thread: Poll: the new Musician quests on TC
Staak
Tue Sep 28, 2004 6:29 am
#40
Put me down for number 1.
Like a lot of people have already said:
- It just doesn't fit with the rest of the quests already in the game. No one else is expected to pay for their rewards. The quest should be the payment.
- We're already sorely lacking in content. Expecting us to pay half our banked xp for new content is insane.
- That banked xp is something that we could be putting towards FS and our second character slot. We've already been screwed over enough there.
- That xp could be put towards mastering the profession instead of buying a new song.
- The xp requirement will push people towards macrotaining to earn their reward.
I got an idea. Every time the devs release a new dungeon, there should be a tax collector at the door to suck up 400000combat xp before you're allowed to go inside. Do you think that will fly?
Laenora
Tue Sep 28, 2004 6:39 am
#41
-- 3 --
ESPECIALLY with all the people trying to open a FS slot, I think those who dedicate their xp to musician above everything else should be rewarded for it. Of course, this is the same profession that cried and moaned until they could /deny service to someone because they didn't know how to entertain well enough to earn tips. /eyeroll
Ravanne_Esi
Tue Sep 28, 2004 8:03 am
#42
Hmmmmm?
Interesting, just yesterday I was looking at a multi page thread on Dev Tracker with many comments about how we were getting no feedback on the status of our new so called content, and today it's gone. Seems to be the typical way SOE wants to treat us. Shut up and pay us!
StuffSalamander
Tue Sep 28, 2004 7:02 pm
#43
2
Stuff Salamandar
Master Musician
Master Entertainer
Master Pikeman
Likes His Boring Signature
SinnAsyr
Wed Sep 29, 2004 3:55 am
#44
I have two seconds now so I guess I shall say 1 so Ok seeya......
Petronela
Wed Sep 29, 2004 6:24 am
#45
Option 1. please
And no, I’m not pursuing Jedi (so far I see no point in it to benefit my play style since entertainers are not Force worthy it seems)
And yes, my music and dance exp has been maxed to eons.
However for this to be fair and not segregate us even more the only logical answer is 1!
Deli'ah
And no, I’m not pursuing Jedi (so far I see no point in it to benefit my play style since entertainers are not Force worthy it seems)
And yes, my music and dance exp has been maxed to eons.
However for this to be fair and not segregate us even more the only logical answer is 1!
Deli'ah
Skuzz
Wed Sep 29, 2004 8:22 am
#46
#1
But only if it is a permenant addition to my musician's play list. None of this limited use schematic dookey!
And I'd also like to ask... why doesnt this new song give some tangible bonus or in game effect? cant we get instruments or songs or dances that do 'something' special? is that such a crazy thing to ask for really? a slightly bigger music buff? the ability to buff ourselves with it perhaps? or some other minor but useful feature. Anything at all would be great.
And if the devs absolutely MUST make us pay for this song, then my vote is make it certified for master musician ONLY, thats payment enough.
But only if it is a permenant addition to my musician's play list. None of this limited use schematic dookey!
And I'd also like to ask... why doesnt this new song give some tangible bonus or in game effect? cant we get instruments or songs or dances that do 'something' special? is that such a crazy thing to ask for really? a slightly bigger music buff? the ability to buff ourselves with it perhaps? or some other minor but useful feature. Anything at all would be great.And if the devs absolutely MUST make us pay for this song, then my vote is make it certified for master musician ONLY, thats payment enough.
Red-Dwarf
Fri Oct 01, 2004 11:10 am
#48
This isn't going to affect me (I'm only on TC and alreadyspent the 400k to get the song 
) but I think it is unfair that entertainers have to spend the 400k when no other profession has to for their new content. Now if BH had to spend 40k Invest xp (comparable based on the level 4 requirement) before they could use BH or mando (or even RIS?) armour the boards would have crashed many times with protests. However I am not in principle against xp requirements as long as new content for all professions has some level of xp needed, although twice the tier 4 requirement is a tad steep - how about twice the novice xp cap?
) but I think it is unfair that entertainers have to spend the 400k when no other profession has to for their new content. Now if BH had to spend 40k Invest xp (comparable based on the level 4 requirement) before they could use BH or mando (or even RIS?) armour the boards would have crashed many times with protests. However I am not in principle against xp requirements as long as new content for all professions has some level of xp needed, although twice the tier 4 requirement is a tad steep - how about twice the novice xp cap?As such - if no other profession is being hit by this - vote 1. If the devs plan on expanding this to impact other professions - vote 2.
Sorry I can't just vote forone, but the devs can interpret that vote as they know their plans!
Cheers,
Senom
Vicotnik
Sat Oct 02, 2004 3:30 am
#49
1. A reward should be a reward, not extra work. When you've done the quests, you should get rewarded not get to spend more time grinding.
Though this seems to be the way the DEVs thinks quests are supposed to be:
Step one: Do some stuff.
Step two: grind.
Message Edited by Vicotnik on 10-02-2004 12:33 PM
Xiste
Tue Oct 05, 2004 9:08 pm
#50
I'm a Master Musician/Master Entertainer and i think that we should have to work for rewards. In the case of the new stringed instrument I heard about, i sure hop it's Master Entertainer only because if Musician's can geta stringed inst. toothen where's the honor in being a Master Entertainer? On this subject I'd say 3...
NikolaTesla
Tue Oct 05, 2004 10:20 pm
#51
1. A novice muscian that completes the quest should get the reward. I don't want this to be like my AV-21 meaning that I only pull it out everyonce in awhile for show. I would like to be able to play it in a band that did not consist entirely of droids.
NewJedi
Wed Oct 06, 2004 9:06 am
#52
People have been askingwhether there are plans to treatother professions similarly (large XP requirements for benefits outside the skill tree) in the future.I believe the answer to that question is "yes," but I'vejust asked the devs and fellow Correspondents for more of their thinking on this question.
FWIW, that seems to be the trend already. It's already the endgame for Dark Jedi Knights, who must constantly grind FRS XP just to maintain position in the Enclave. It's sort of the model for grinding FS XP: first you do a quest to unlock a huge XP requirement. You don't just to Jedi quests, and you don't just grind XP: you do both. The devs need ways to keep people playing the game, and the traditional method for MMORPGs is by imposing new XP requirements as the game grows.
I've also reported the current results of this poll -- that a large majority of Musicians feel very strongly that the XP requirement should be removed, thata minority favors options 2 or 3, and a few say their answer depends on whether other professions will be treated similarly in the future. Man, I'd sure love to have a dev commitment to treat other professions similarly in the future, because I bet that would make us all feel better about this XP requirement. We'll see if I can get one.