Musician Archive

Thread: Musician buff FAQ: version 1.5

NewJedi
Wed Jan 07, 2004 7:50 am
#40

Yorgrim: Yep, the buff is needlessly complicated. I've repeatedly asked the devs for a better buff interface, but don't hold your breath. As for "recent death," sometimes the buff timer fails to reset if the recipient dies or crashes with the buff up. Also, the listener should type /stoplisten or use radial to stop listening; moving out of range doesn't alwaystrigger the buff.

Spacedman_Spliff
Sun Jan 18, 2004 10:10 pm
#41

Just some observations from getting buffs myself and third-hand knowledge;


Sometimes it's necessary to use /stoplisten first then select the musician and use the radial menu to select listen. Using /listen <playername> does not confer the buff. This does not appear to be necessary with dancers, so /watch <dancername> will work properly. Best practice I guess is to use /stoplisten first to ensure all goes smoothly. (Who wants to wait another 8-15min?)


I've been informed that while grouped, if you get a buff (/stoplisten) and listen again the buff will disappear. While I have not found that to be true in my limited experience, I'm sure it is true for others.


While grouped at least, listening for only 90 seconds can confer a buff of over 20 min duration (Master level is all I've experiemnted with). This seems pretty darn handy for PvP battles. As I haven't been able to experiment with this alot, I'm hopeful some analytical person will post their findings.


Please do not use the /stop command. It is not an abbreviation of /stoplisten. Instead it stops the entire band whether the person using it is an entertainer or not. (/bug)


Finally, please tip entertainers ridiculous amounts of credits. Specially large wookiee types heh



Johnson

Arfindel
Sat Jan 31, 2004 12:08 pm
#42

Can be buffed a person that is overt or flagged? And if yes, can he be buffed only by someone in the same faction or by a neutral as well?








AEN BIOTEK
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FarstarCorelliaTyrena-3448, -659 North Misty Island


Arfindel
Mon Feb 02, 2004 6:37 am
#43

Yesterday I experimented a lot on this, and the results are as follows. I am a neutral and around myself in the AH cantina a lot of war was going on. So I could buff people:


that were TEF-ed


that were overt


and that were even fighting actively during the buff on the condition they started listenin before they were attacked or attacked others.


Buffs failed only if the subject crashed during the process and once when I dealt with a doctor who, before typing stoplisten, started to buff somebody else.



For you this may not mean very much as you have a secondary active profession. For me it was interesting because lessened very much frustration out of being master BE and master Musician. It's quite awfull when all your friends are fighting around and you are not able to lend a hand.


It's also interesting to see how a sympathiser - even if not part of a faction - could actively help his mates in this profession. As far as I know neutral medics and doctors cannot help TEF or overt players.


Aen Naftah




AEN BIOTEK
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FarstarCorelliaTyrena-3448, -659 North Misty Island


Spacedman_Spliff
Mon Feb 02, 2004 10:20 am
#44

Overt, I was able to musically heal overts of the opposite faction but I have not tested this again since October.



Johnson


NewJedi
Mon Feb 02, 2004 4:01 pm
#45

Hmm, so neutrals can buff Overts. Can Overts buff Overts of the opposing faction? How about coverts of the opposing faction? I haven't been Overt in a while, but maybe I'll head over to Anchorhead, go Overt, and then try buffing an Imperial Overt friend. Er, if I can find one without getting killed first.


Ricky Starwalker


Kyark
Tue Feb 10, 2004 1:25 am
#46

Quality of materials doesn't matter in Tailor stuff...so why for instruments? It's hard to get a hold of things like wood...that being said, I'd rather not have to run around looking for materials that are good quality just so I can make an aspiring musician a Kloo horn, you know?




Kyark Xichau, Gorath
Master Musician/Master Entertainer/Teras Kasi Master

Retired: Master Pistoleer
Anti-Holocronist and Imperial Loyalist
Kyark
Tue Feb 10, 2004 1:36 am
#47

To add...


I have been able to buff whlie being overt (Imperial at the Imperial outpost), and have not had issues buffing other overt Imperials, neutrals, or covert rebels. (Most overt Rebels that show up there die a quick and painful death.) I haven't had any kind of problems with buffs taking, and I use either chicken horn, mandy, or bandfill to buff, and get the full duration/quality on both active and passive buffs. I only play songs from the musician tree (or ceremonial), and all work fine.


As for the ME/MM battle...all master "noob" professions have good bonuses that you can only get with that box. For example, master brawler is pointless in and of itself...but the knockdown it gives fencers is a big help to those working up the fencer tree. All elite artisans get bonuses by having master artisan as well, and so on. It's designed that way so that it's worth mastering ot have the skills...because why else bother doing it? While I love ceremonial and mandy, and it sucks giving up all the skill points for ID and dancing, it's worth it to me. My two credits' worth.


I just hope the new patch does something to make the cantinas fun again...I never go to the big cities any more, b/c they just suck and are lag city. /sigh





Kyark Xichau, Gorath
Master Musician/Master Entertainer/Teras Kasi Master

Retired: Master Pistoleer
Anti-Holocronist and Imperial Loyalist
MasterMeister
Sun Feb 15, 2004 2:25 pm
#48

Buffing in starports does not work. Tested in Coronet starport, Starsider. No buff after playing for 5 minutes (if it worked it would have given a small buff by then).



Meister Capo

Master Musician
Tamer
Starsider

Residence on Naboo, Vagabond's Rest
NewJedi
Mon Feb 16, 2004 3:10 pm
#49

I can't buff in a starport either. Unless I get pretty convincing evidence to the contrary, I'll adjust the FAQ accordingly.
Bihlbo
Mon Feb 16, 2004 3:43 pm
#50

Simply leaving "listening range" does not always activate the buff. I've had more than one person I've buffed run to the starport/shuttleport and travel very far away and send me a tell stating they had no buff. Everytime I get this, I tell them to type /stoplisten and everytime it's worked. It's happened about five or six times now.

I love this aspect of the buffing system. I usually tell people that if they're going to go looking for doc buffs after getting a buff from me to not /stoplisten until the doc is finished or they are ready to actually USE the buff. The delay is really handy when you know that it's going to take you at least half an hour to get to where you really need the buff.



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NewJedi
Tue Feb 17, 2004 7:41 am
#51

My alt does that too, Bihlbo -- doesn't type /stoplisten until the blaster bolts start flying. Is it reliable? I mean, is it ever possible to wait too long, thus "losing" the buff?
Itta
Tue Feb 17, 2004 9:43 am
#52

First, excellent guide - I greatly appreciate the massive amount of work you've put into this thread. Thank you!


Second, I'm looking for an FAQ to be built on improving buffs other than the standard out-of-the-box Master Musician buff. What I'm specifically referring to are:


Enhanced clothing


Skill Enhacement Attachments


Other types of tapes or items that can enhance a Master Musicians ability to apply a buff


Can you add that type of information to this guide or start a new guide? I've been a Master Musician for awhile now (Teia Deevahs on Starsider) but only was told in the past week that there are tapes you can buy that will make your buffs more powerful. Plus, I heard that you can buy clothing that does the same thing. I've been looking but haven't found anything great yet. I would LOVE more info, like what are the different items that can be found, what are the ranges of stats for those items, what does each percentage point do to the buff (like, +1 musical mind enhancement adds "x" minutes to a buff, etc)...


Thanks!





Zenyth
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Darjani Peaks Mall (-5120, 475)
Darjani Peaks, Dantooine, Kauri Galaxy


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